1. ## The Kill Kalari Thread

Hypothesis:

There is a non-scientifically endorsed position within Lost Legion that when Kalari or one of her many alts bites it, the loot is increased by 2-3 steps. This has without definitive evidence been reinforced through the pulling of scales, rings and other assorted goodies (I once pulled a Large Scale in TOD after her death in part 2). As a result of this belief...which is all it is at this point...we try to kill her..allot. No seriously...we yelled at her last night to get out of her room in part 3...she said she was "struggling with the puzzle"...yeah....

Method

I am starting this thread to establish whether...definitively...killing kalari results in better loot. So if you run with her..and she...by chance...bites it...please post the loot results. SCREENSHOTS are encouraged as are high quality videos.

Cheers Kam :-)

Thus far gained info indicates (as of today..whatever that is...I think Sunday):

1 It has been confirmed by multiple sources that an "irregular" amount of large scales are pulled upon her death. This irregularity measures at >3 per shroud run.

2 Lost Leader has indicated that it is a known fact that loot tables are exponentially increased upon her death.

3 Sol has graciously crunched the numbers and deduced the following formula for loot drops upon K's death:

Originally Posted by Solmage
Hey, the way I see it, why risk NOT getting loot? Kill away!

(PS: The chance of loot formula is (2^KalariDeaths - 2xKalariHeals, so now you know, and knowing is half the battle!)
THANK YOU MUCH. Far more informative then those silly u5 dps formulas!

4. Other guilds besides LL have confirmed that loot drops seem to be "better" upon K's Death.

5. Kalari hates all of us.

6. Art (Quantum) has indicated this fact may not be specific to Kalari but other females including Jezy and Hex (THE hex not the impostor Hex...though efforts on the impostor should be made simply in the name of science). Further testing seems to be necessary and guilds are encouraged to kill their female guildies in the name of science of course. (I am not sure how Panzy fits in here)

Originally Posted by QuantumFX
Stazer - That’s not how it works and you know it. This rule* applies equally to Sheelagh, Kalari, Jezebele, and the woman known as “Hex.”

"snip"

* This means +2 tomes in the Shroud and Large Devil Scales in parts 4 and 5.

It has been clearly implied through a study utilizing the strictest of scientific methodological stuff that Sheelagh killing her self DOES in fact result in increased loot.

Originally Posted by Lost_Leader
Tonight Sheelagh attempted, once again, to prove it wrong. She jumped up and down on spikes in part one of The Shroud, saying to herself, "I'll show Kreeg it isn't true."

Ding! (Party): Your party member Sheelagh has died.

3 chests later....

.... +2 Tome of Leadership and Influence.

Part 4 and 5 chests? Ya, guess who had a 2 Large Scale run? This Guy!

Furthermore, other test subjects per this inquiry have indicated the same thing...

Originally Posted by Catiriona
I did it to prove they were wrong...it backfired
way to take one for SCIENCE!

Originally Posted by Manling
I do not know about kal dying increasing the loot but Delscorcho has often said that when leadbelly dies (as the main healer) party wipes NEVER ensue................go figure.
so perhaps just good things in general occure when female players die? Interesting!

Originally Posted by mudfud
Do a bit more confirming. We've done it extensively, whether she dies or suicides, as long as that she has died message pops up, atleast 1 gets a +2 tome or better as non 20th end reward or chest loot.

Matter of fact, last 2 times she "died" was by suiciding and we got tomes.
clearly illustrates that the original hypothesis is null...further supports what was shown by mister Kreegmeister.

MORE UPDATES TO COME KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!

2. Normally when I'm healing and I see a bar drop, I just click and click to heal... when I see it's one of Kalari's toons now, there's a slight hesitation before that heal fires...

3. OMG and I gave ya a shard last night man you cut me to the bone I hate you Kreeg and all the rest of you bozo's and I am so going to make you all pay for this

You do not get good loot when I die and I really did have issue with that puzzle last night but that was because that darn guild leader of ours was saying over mic come on Kamari trying to kill me, you try solving puzzles when youve got a target on your hiney /pout.

4. Stazer - That’s not how it works and you know it. This rule* applies equally to Sheelagh, Kalari, Jezebele, and the woman known as “Hex.”

And since you brought it up in the DDO forums: Don’t blame us. We didn't code the loot tables.

* This means +2 tomes in the Shroud and Large Devil Scales in parts 4 and 5.

5. Although it was a known fact in questors that if Art died in the Sands there would be a bloodstone in the skellie chest

6. Originally Posted by Dragonhyde
Although it was a known fact in questors that if Art died in the Sands there would be a bloodstone in the skellie chest
You’re confusing me with IB again.

7. Originally Posted by QuantumFX
Stazer - That’s not how it works and you know it. This rule* applies equally to Sheelagh, Kalari, Jezebele, and the woman known as “Hex.”

And since you brought it up in the DDO forums: Don’t blame us. We didn't code the loot tables.

* This means +2 tomes in the Shroud and Large Devil Scales in parts 4 and 5.
You must realize you will probably never be healed again right? LOL

8. Originally Posted by QuantumFX
You’re confusing me with IB again.
nope ib was good for the ever rare vorpal run back then :P

but everytime you died on one of the ag or xory runs i got a bloodstone :P

9. Can we get dev confirmation on this please?

It could change the play style when I am grouped with Kalari.

10. i agree might have to have more sacrifices when she's in our groups

11. Omg im going to kill Phenn for this and I hate you all lol

12. Hey, the way I see it, why risk NOT getting loot? Kill away!

(PS: The chance of loot formula is (2^KalariDeaths - 2xKalariHeals, so now you know, and knowing is half the battle!)

13. Back when Kalari ran with me I noticed this too. So thre should be a Kill Kalari day?

Firewhiskey / Octa

14. and just when woundweaver decides its time to make his return...

kalari, you may as well drop party if in a group of mine. youre dead for sure if you stay. im such a loot *****

15. We have been using this trick on Sheelagh for years
I Have gotten lots of fat lootz from her deaths part 3 seems to be the best time to kill her.
Thanx sheelagh we appreciate ur deaths

Please note this Trick does not work when Rezzin dies or Nameerror

16. I would just like to put in my testimony as a witness.

Kalari: Everytime she dies in the shroud, I have seen atleast 8 Large Devil Scales drop in the chest. Also, her dying in VoD and Hound has increased raid loot drop rate by a multiple of 2.

Sheelagh: Though I was reprimanded, by (total accident!) killing her in part 3 of the Shroud, we had 4 +2 tomes drop. Having her die on Vigdis in part 3 of ToD netted us 4 rings on a normal run. Coincidence? I think not.

17. Originally Posted by Lost_Leader
I would just like to put in my testimony as a witness.

Kalari: Everytime she dies in the shroud, I have seen atleast 8 Large Devil Scales drop in the chest. Also, her dying in VoD and Hound has increased raid loot drop rate by a multiple of 2.

Sheelagh: Though I was reprimanded, by (total accident!) killing her in part 3 of the Shroud, we had 4 +2 tomes drop. Having her die on Vigdis in part 3 of ToD netted us 4 rings on a normal run. Coincidence? I think not.
I really really hate you lol

18. ## Since I feel slightly good today....

Originally Posted by Lost_Leader
I would just like to put in my testimony as a witness.

Kalari: Everytime she dies in the shroud, I have seen atleast 8 Large Devil Scales drop in the chest. Also, her dying in VoD and Hound has increased raid loot drop rate by a multiple of 2.

Sheelagh: Though I was reprimanded, by (total accident!) killing her in part 3 of the Shroud, we had 4 +2 tomes drop. Having her die on Vigdis in part 3 of ToD netted us 4 rings on a normal run. Coincidence? I think not.
So, what of this uberest loot that drops, as a result of said death benefit, will be paid to the sacrifice?

19. Originally Posted by Amberyll
So, what of this uberest loot that drops, as a result of said death benefit, will be paid to the sacrifice?
well paying test subjects can result in skewed results...so...

in the name of science of course...

hugs?

20. I would so disintegrate anyone of you bastards if you tried to hug me, it took me months to convince lowbie pugs that my death dont bring loot. Now i'll never be able to pug again you guys are awful!

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