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    Default need a pvp anti-arcane archer build

    Hi, I'd like to make an anti-arcane ranger/multiclass build. I've seen some rangers which manage to get the upper hand on my arcane by hitting me with a lot of strength sapping arrows in quick succession.....I find that pretty neat.

    I'd like to combine that with something that is EXTREMELY fast at moving (can avoid MM, aoe's....etc quite easily). I was thinking of building something combining sprint boosts. I'm yet to work out if the whole thing's viable (will probably be quite a challenge in pve and may end up soloing it up).

    Couple questions.....

    1) does barb sprint boost + bonus running speed stack with ranger sprint boost ?
    2) when I got hit by 5+ arrows at the same time....was that a repeater or just a bow with many shot that the ranger was using?
    3) is the thing that FS do with their wings called Leap of Faith? Given at lvl17?

    The goal is to have something that can avoid damage spells and can disable a caster before he gets my mantle down. If I could manage 450+hp that would be great too.

    The point of the build is to surprise, overwhelm and make some of those casters which use gimp tactics a bit more accountable. 20 seconds in and out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majere_Aumar View Post
    Hi, I'd like to make an anti-arcane ranger/multiclass build. I've seen some rangers which manage to get the upper hand on my arcane by hitting me with a lot of strength sapping arrows in quick succession.....I find that pretty neat.

    I'd like to combine that with something that is EXTREMELY fast at moving (can avoid MM, aoe's....etc quite easily). I was thinking of building something combining sprint boosts. I'm yet to work out if the whole thing's viable (will probably be quite a challenge in pve and may end up soloing it up).

    Couple questions.....

    1) does barb sprint boost + bonus running speed stack with ranger sprint boost ?

    Dont think so for pvp your best bet is to get 150 house p favor so you can get the clickie for quick around town movement it works in the pvp arenas

    2) when I got hit by 5+ arrows at the same time....was that a repeater or just a bow with many shot that the ranger was using?

    Only for bows

    3) is the thing that FS do with their wings called Leap of Faith? Given at lvl17?

    Yes lvl 17

    The goal is to have something that can avoid damage spells and can disable a caster before he gets my mantle down. If I could manage 450+hp that would be great too.

    The point of the build is to surprise, overwhelm and make some of those casters which use gimp tactics a bit more accountable. 20 seconds in and out.

    As to avoiding MM spells get a shield spell clickie this will stop MM from damaging you while in effect get your reflex save as high as you can since if you have enough ranger lvls you will have evasion and avoid AoE damage that way. Other then that I can't help you much as I don't pvp in this game as it isn't and shouldn't be balanced for pvp.

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    BE A MAGE OR SORCERER !! Then

    1) get power word stun
    2) get meteor swarm

    then do these 3 steps in really quick succession when you enter in the arena:

    1) magic missile (to drain all mantle charges)
    2) meteor swarm (just need to hit with 1 meteor to take off 20 - 30 hp)
    3) power word stun

    and your opponent is owned

    If your opponent has less than 450 hp (you can check in myddo.com) you can avoid step 2, and so is really quick and easy
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    Flesh to Stone. Power Word. Quicken.

    Or, Greater Dispel Magic/Mordenkainen's Disjunction, Finger of Death, Hold Person, Wail of the Banshee...the list goes on. Wizard = Batman. You should always have the right tool for the job.
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    get 80+ ac, then they wont hit you
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    I think you still lose your mantle charges if you get hit by mm with a shield spell on.....but I know you can avoid the missiles if you can get around them and make them follow you back towards the caster.

    As far as avoiding damage, our server has a few people now using the wizard past life missiles which go right through all defences.

    By AOE I was actually referring to a few cleric spells which have an AOE area and are not subject to reflex saves. I'd prefer to be out of the area when they land.

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    Yes, you're right about the Maagic Missles draining the mantle *even* with the shield clickie on....... also the past life feats are cheap ): They go through ANYTHING!!! BTW at level 20 you get 5X with manyshot which means... one per four hits... "should" be a slaying arrow... unless they're blocking. Hmm, on the other hand, who can block all those arrows, if you're built right. If you're wanting to PVP get ALL the greater bane bows.... (Human,Elf,Dwarf,Construct,Halfling) works wonders.... ;0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacaroma View Post
    If you're wanting to PVP get ALL the greater bane bows.... (Human,Elf,Dwarf,Construct,Halfling) works wonders.... ;0
    You'll also need Lawful Outsider bane for capped monks...
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    As a Monk, its not easy, but you can REALLY anger an AA by abundant stepping (gotta lead them folsk. watch where they're going "provided they aren't nailing you) and abundant step *WHAM* as soon as their feet hit the ground. Dead ranger.

    Hard to get right, but with practice you can ledge hop cheese heads with the best of them.


    Just sucks that Cheese Begets Cheese in this game for PVP. Basically the reason why I don't spend much time in the pit.

    Also OP..PVP Builds tend to be a little weak in quests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sephiroth1084 View Post
    Flesh to Stone. Power Word. Quicken.

    Or, Greater Dispel Magic/Mordenkainen's Disjunction, Finger of Death, Hold Person, Wail of the Banshee...the list goes on. Wizard = Batman. You should always have the right tool for the job.
    Mordenkainens Disjunction dosnt work in PvP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raveolution View Post
    BE A MAGE OR SORCERER !! Then

    1) get power word stun
    2) get meteor swarm

    then do these 3 steps in really quick succession when you enter in the arena:

    1) magic missile (to drain all mantle charges)
    2) meteor swarm (just need to hit with 1 meteor to take off 20 - 30 hp)
    3) power word stun

    and your opponent is owned

    If your opponent has less than 450 hp (you can check in myddo.com) you can avoid step 2, and so is really quick and easy
    wow and you call that skill with casting do ya now?

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    Lvl 20 pure Monk, go Shintao.

    Ranged stun ftw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toughguyjoe View Post
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    Also OP..PVP Builds tend to be a little weak in quests.
    So not true

    to be good at pvp you need good HP/saves/DC... You need a good toon

    prety sure you need that in quests too


    As for a good anti arcane archer build i think FVS can be prety cool

    Shield block + capstone/bramble caster + close wound = unkillable

    just wait till many shot is over and your on


    EDIT: AC is probably the best way to survive.... i love killing Arcane archers with my rog/rgr/mnk
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    Wizard TR, 18wiz/2monk Palemaster with:

    Lorrik's Champion, Bramble-Casters, Docent of Defiance, Conc Op Goggles, and Scourge Choker, and Greater Stalwart Trinket

    Being a wizard means more Toughness feats since you get your metamagics for free.

    Death Aura constantly heals you and palemaster grants 40 HP, Bramble-Casters on for when DoD doesn't proc, Lorrik's Champion gives you 22 blocking DR, Conc Op procs +HP on you, DoD procs 20dr, Greater Stalwart Trinket gives 10 more HP (says 5) and procs Stoneskin on you as you're hit. The Scourge Choker procs CON on you increasing your HP even further. I have all this gear on my sorc and people hit me for 0s.

    DoD (20 via hidden proc) + Lorrik's Champion (22 via blocking) + Greater Stalwart Trinket (10 via Stoneskin) = 52max DR.

    With the Wizard Past Life you can throw a single click at them and not only drain their mantles but hurt them as well allowing you to use Power Word Stun on them.

    Docent of Defiance also procs over on itself so if it's about to run out and they're still shooting it can reset the count. When it procs most rangers (even with Favored Enemy Construct) cannot hurt me. You'd be amazed how many rely on Slayer Arrows alone..
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    PVP players tend to be better as well. Range based players learn to kite/move and shoot well. Melees learn to follow a target well.

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    Get a really big shield.
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    Monk + kukan-do + abundant step + stunning fist + 2 hits = dead AA....

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    don't virtuoso bards get a song that is effectively resistible dance at range? a bard should be able to get a damn good DC on that. or is there something that would block that?
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