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    Default The DDO Store & +1 Weapons

    We are considering discontinuing the sale of +1 weapons in the DDO Store, and would like to hear feedback from the community before making a final decision. If you are a player who regularly purchases +1 weapons, we are very interested in hearing about why you like to purchase them. Will the removal of +1 weapons negatively impact your game play? Please use this thread to provide any feedback regarding your purchase of +1 weapons; we look forward to hearing from you!

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    quite frankly the sale of them seemed a little wrong like a noob trap, as you could buy them for a small price in houe d or pull them about 10 minutes into the game. I'm glad to see your moving away from this style of marketing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tolero View Post
    If you are a player who regularly purchases +1 weapons, we are very interested in hearing about why you like to purchase them.
    I will give limitless +1 weapons to the first person to admit to this.

    I don't see why you'd sell +1 weapons in the store at all, they drop from the lowbie-est of lowbie quests, are sold from auctions and brokers at exceptionally cheap prices, and are very quickly replaceable even for a totally green player with Sharn series "nicked" weapons or +2 end rewards.

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    Great decision. The +1 items were barely any better than what you gained during the tutorial and can be obtained within minutes of gameplay. It felt dishonest to sell them. Like valorik said, it's a noob trap. If you did buy them, you would probably end up thinking you waste TPs on them.

    The same could be said about +1 armors, +2 weapons and +2 armors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borror0 View Post
    Great decision. The +1 items were barely any better than what you gained during the tutorial and can be obtained within minutes of gameplay. It felt dishonest to sell them. Like valorik said, it's a noob trap. If you did buy them, you would probably end up thinking you waste TPs on them.

    The same could be said about +1 armors, +2 weapons and +2 armors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borror0 View Post
    Great decision. The +1 items were barely any better than what you gained during the tutorial and can be obtained within minutes of gameplay. It felt dishonest to sell them. Like valorik said, it's a noob trap. If you did buy them, you would probably end up thinking you waste TPs on them.

    The same could be said about +1 armors, +2 weapons and +2 armors.
    ...and stacks of normal arrows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdbd3rd View Post
    ...and stacks of normal arrows.
    Actually that's one that should stay. I know certain rangers who have run out of arrows in a quest just before those rare times they have to actually range something. That's actually a nice convinience item to have if they don't want to recall just for arrows or if you are mid raid lol

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    I agree with everyone else. I like A_D's idea of a scaling weapon, although a +1 cold iron and good weapon (for the early demons one encounters), or maybe an enhanced club of the silverflame that's actually worth swinging, stuff like that could be nice.

    The items sold should still be sub-par to what you get out of quest chains like sharn's syndicate, but they should not be a waste of points. Incidentally, you may want to recommend that quest chain for new players wanting awesome weapons in your newbie guide

    I mean, if you're going to spend some tps to get a better weapon, you may be better off just buying that quest series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorien_the_First_One View Post
    Actually that's one that should stay. I know certain rangers who have run out of arrows in a quest just before those rare times they have to actually range something. That's actually a nice convinience item to have if they don't want to recall just for arrows or if you are mid raid lol
    Okay, granted. But those normal arrows are like 50+ TPs a stack iirc. (last time I looked, anyway)
    At least make that for a stack of +2s or +3s.
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    From the perspective of a newish player, who is now VIP, I have never even considered buying any of the weapons from the DDO Store. Even on my first toon on his first run through Korthos, it was very apparent that the weapons that I could buy in the store would easily be found in game. I do enjoy the store, and have made several purchases, but have no interest in buying easily obtainable weapons. Perhaps if the rarer weapons were available, I may consider, but I understand that would likely open a whole new philosophical debate.

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    I would suggest the weapons are changed to Silver, Byeshk, Adamantine, flametouched versions.

    At least then they would have a purpose.

    Also, they should cost 10TPs per plus.

    that would be enough to make it cheap, and a simple convenience purchase since better stuff would still be easy to find at the AH.

    I would pay over 1000TP for a Spear though, (hopefully with crafting)
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    Considering you give them a free weapon that is ALMOST +1 (+1 damage, no +1 to hit) during the intro quest and you can buy them from a vendor for in game gold, it kind of taking advantage of new players that don't know better to have those in store.

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    I have said from day 1 that +1 weapons were silly - you get better weapons through the darn tutorial. In fact, Tolero could you put the word in to upgrade the +1 weapons at the vendors in House P and House D? Perhaps along the lines of what KKDragonord has suggested? People might actually go to those vendors then ...

    By the way, +2 and +3 weapons really aren't much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hafeal View Post
    By the way, +2 and +3 weapons really aren't much better.
    +3 is sort of fine. I remember having struggled to find my first +3 armor and weapon. I remember several newbies were incredibly happy when I passed them +3 stuff because I didn't need it. However, +1 and +2 is just too easy to acquire. You'll find them very quickly.

    If Turbine is selling for something to replace those weapons, I would suggest them selling a DDO Store named item that is a plain +X that scales with level: at level 1, it's +1; at level 2, it's +2; at level 4, it's +3; at level 6, it's +4; and at level 8, it's +5. This makes the item a much better purchase, as it follows the player for a good while and can be purchased early.

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    Well, the op is targetted to players that buy +1 weapons regularly, so i guess there are such players, i dont think you will find them on the forums though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gercho View Post
    Well, the op is targetted to players that buy +1 weapons regularly, so i guess there are such players, i dont think you will find them on the forums though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gercho View Post
    Well, the op is targetted to players that buy +1 weapons regularly, so i guess there are such players, i dont think you will find them admitting it on the forums though...
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    Buying rare weapons like different material +1 or +2 ones seems a lot better of an idea.


    Buying that +1 adamantine maul to combat that clay golem, that might be more reasonable. That silver longsword for the vampire etc.


    But not stuff thats given as reward options in start quests.

    In fact the korthos starter missions give you weapons as good as (if not better) than +1 weapons. (they're masterwork, giving +1 to hit and have +1 elemental damage making them equivalent to a +1 magical weapon)



    While wer'e on the subject of low end weapons.

    A lot of named weapons and armors in harbour quests are basic +1 or +2 fare.

    ALL of these should have some sort of ability that stands them above the regular stuff.

    Rakmels dagger might be chaos touch (+1 chaos damage, chaotic aligned) etc.
    Named Spider's Carapace might have cold resistance 5 on it. etc.
    Gordoks' Boots might have +3 jump and jump spell castable 3 per day.
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    I could see selling an item like, ghost touch, frost, fire or pure good weapon so newer players could attain a specific weapon that may be needed in quests like Deleras or Catacombs. But plus 1 weapons would probably get a newer player turned off from the game once they realized how easy it was to loot one.

    There is no need to give a new player a first impression that they are getting ripped off.

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    I will admit that when I was a new ftp player I have purchased 2 +1 items in the store, not knowing any better. This is because I was a dwarf and was looking to buy a +1 dwarven axe because I didn't think that they were available until much later in the game. I later realized that I could buy a dwarven axe in the Marketplace and a +1 Dwarven axe off the auction house (or just find one in a chest in Korthos)...it was, unfortunately, a waste of TP and a bit of a trap as a new player.

    I would suggest taking them off of the DDO store. Its much easier just to buy with in game coin off the auction house.
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