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    Quote Originally Posted by Creddi View Post
    I am trying to imagine how you double anyone's kill count when there are a finite number of critters to kill and if there aren't, killing faster almost always means facing fewer due to a quicker win .
    If the bard/ranger/fighter has double the kill count, it means that everyone else was AFK. DUH!

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    On the subject of rangers: Long ago I thougth rangers weren't that great, until I grouped with one that kicked a$$. I rolled one myself shortly after.
    It's my belief that everyone should at least try a character of every class, if only for a little while.

    I'll probably never try a bard, and my experience with a cleric (to lvl 6) will likely mean that I never try a FvS ever, either, but I have a greater understanding of what the game is like for others, and therefore understand better why I should be appreciative of my party mates, and what is reasonable to expect from people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creddi View Post
    I am trying to imagine how you double anyone's kill count when there are a finite number of critters to kill and if there aren't, killing faster almost always means facing fewer due to a quicker win .
    Lets play, look up Kyntari in game. Try to keep up
    I will admit though that it is alot easier with parties made up of primarily new players.
    Last edited by rage9; 12-30-2009 at 02:09 AM.

    "Hit points=DPS! You aren't doing ANY DPS when ur dead!"
    and like that,.......he was gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rage9 View Post
    Try getting into a group as an 8bard/6ranger/2fighter!! Not an easy task. And when ya do, they get all weird when you double there kill count
    Some people just have no imagination
    haha nice,

    I just rolled up 2 similar like that:

    12 bard / 6 rgr / 2 rog and < tempest of course

    16 bard / 2 rog / 2 ftr < warchanter still

    both dual wielding khopesh.
    I wanna be a farmer when I grow up!

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    Seems ridiculous to me. Rarely ever see a gimped ranger at the higher levels. It happens, but far less frequently than low hp fighters, impossibly low dps palis, and poorly built rogues. Usually, a poorly built ranger is still not a drain on the party like other bad builds.
    If you think rangers are poor dps, you should build an exploiter or a dwarf tempest etc. Very high dps and self-sustainability.
    Honestly, I rarely see groups avoiding rangers, but when i do ... I switch to another toon or go to a different group. No worries, they will learn.

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    The 1st toon I made (after some research) is a ranger. Yes, bows are fun and great for getting those spider eggs from a distance, but i look forward to charging forward, swinging 2 swords and taking foes down QUICK. 1st lvl was rogue, been taking ranger since, and in parties and solo i buff and heal with my handy umd skills and way to many clickies. At first it was a bit difficult, learning the quests, and figuring out what weapons and equipment were good, and which were ****/redundant.
    Prahd is relatively low lvl at 9, but hes my explorer/ twink daddy to my newer toons. And does it well. A well built and well played ranger is a great addition to any party, and I cant wait to get him up to higher levels to make him a true killing machine.
    Usually i run him with my buddies cleric, or solo. So far at level there are very few quests we cant run together.
    I'd like to say that a badly used ranger is a waste of bandwidth, either they learn when to use the bows or they will
    never stay in good groups for very long.

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    I see lots of strange discrimination. And sometimes get turned down instantly from a LFM that has my class listed too.

    Rgrs and Mnks and Rogs are most common for this.

    Other clases if they already have one of that class.

    Strange when they are so much higher lvl than the quest.

    Makes me go...huh?! What are they thinking?

    Whatever. You probably don't want to group with them anyhow.
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    ..., but I honestly think the solution is to group with less whiny people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talon_Moonshadow View Post
    I see lots of strange discrimination. And sometimes get turned down instantly from a LFM that has my class listed too.

    Rgrs and Mnks and Rogs are most common for this.

    Other clases if they already have one of that class.

    Strange when they are so much higher lvl than the quest.

    Makes me go...huh?! What are they thinking?

    Whatever. You probably don't want to group with them anyhow.
    That is because it is you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talon_Moonshadow View Post
    I see lots of strange discrimination. And sometimes get turned down instantly from a LFM that has my class listed too.

    Rgrs and Mnks and Rogs are most common for this.

    Other clases if they already have one of that class.

    Strange when they are so much higher lvl than the quest.

    Makes me go...huh?! What are they thinking?

    Whatever. You probably don't want to group with them anyhow.
    Seen plenty of this lately.

    Many groups advertising Need Tank (for your normal random quest) and Rangers are not included.

    I've asked if they want a DPS melee ranger and was told NO, ok, better off not in this group.

    Rogues are also excluded even though the LFM is for NEED DPS.

    As someone else said, they will learn.
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