I've taken a look at it, yes. I've run it several times with my guild, as well. We're not discussing level 15's, however, we're discussing level 13's. Namely, the OP. A 20th level vs a 13th level IS a significant difference, no matter how you want to argue it. Even 5 levels can be a dramatic difference, especially when you're dealing with high-end gear. The class the 13th level is is also a large issue; are they a 'tank' type fighter? If so, they're not going to be very useful in comparison to a 20th level well-equipped tank. DPS? Similar; they won't have the high-end gear or skills. Healer? Well, they've got Heal, so they can contribute, but their mana pool is going to be much smaller. 5-7 levels can also be a difference of upwards of 100-200 hp. More hp means they're more survivable.2. Take a look at the raid itself before you go and say someone did not contribute anywhere near enough.
Part 1 DPS on portals, gee that level 20 is so far in front of the level 15 on that it justfies no xp. Part 2 yeah that level 15 cant solo one of the bosses almost as effectively, Part 3 Gee my level 20 deals with those puzzles so much better than my level 16 its incredible, Part 4 bash and be healed, someone got a dps comparrision chart for chars 13-20? Or realistically BAB 15 and above. Part 5 as 4.
I'm not trying to claim that a 13-15th level character is "totally useless", and contributes NOTHING, but their contribution IS going to be much lower than that of a 20th level character who has solid gear, and there's no way you can argue otherwise.
The raid on normal is 17th level. On hard it's 18th, and on elite it's 19th. On elite, there is no exp hit for 20th level people being there. Additionally, "from the start" the OP never suggested that it should be at reduced exp, either.From the start, no one is saying that groups with level 20's should get full xp because having a level 20 in they are 3 levels higher than the raid was designed for, that is why everyone should be getting the 30%xp hit.
The OP has made a request based on his own personal desire to get exp for being 13th level running the Shroud with 20th level people. Nowhere did he say "some" exp. He simply said "I think I should get experience." Here's his OP, in fact:The OP has made a reasonable request based on end game changes and I think they should be considered, it is not "selfish" as it has no impact on your play style at all and would benefit a few in a small consistent way.
And trying to paint everyone who disagrees with you as "just wanting to argue or something", when you yourself have stated that NOTHING will change your mind, and that nobody who disagrees with you should even bother posting, is a pretty clear indicator that you're not offering a "suggestion", but rather it's more of a "demand". You're not offering a compromise suggestion, you're simply stating "I want this, and if you don't like it, go away!"
If you had stated, in your OP, something like this: "Given that the level cap has now gone up to 20, I suggest that the exp penalty for groups participating in raids be loosened a bit, perhaps instead of dropping to -100% at a 5 level difference, taper off more slowly, so that everyone who can qualify for the raid can gain experience at a reduced rate."
A post like that would likely have gone over much better, and probably would have received more support. It's more reasonable than what you've been spouting. However, given your apparent attitude, I don't think you're that reasonable of a person.