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    Quote Originally Posted by Compendium
    Your defensive mastery is complete. In addition to the bonuses of Stalwart Defender I and II, this prestige enhancement increases your armor class by 1, grants +2 to your intimidate skill, increases your maximum dexterity bonus allowed by medium or heavy armor and shields, and grants additional armor class and damage reduction when blocking with a shield. In addition, when you have a shield equipped, your DR is upgraded from DR 4/- to DR 6/-. You may expend a use of Fighter action boost to to enter a defensive stance.
    Does anyone know how much the max dex bonus is boosted for armor and shields when taking different levels of stalwart defender?

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    The first lvl is +1 to tower shields.
    I bet the second level is +1 to shields and armors
    Probably the same with the 3rd.

    I am only sure about the 1st though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AxeM View Post
    The first lvl is +1 to tower shields.
    I bet the second level is +1 to shields and armors
    Probably the same with the 3rd.

    I am only sure about the 1st though.
    Thanks for the info - I confirmed the 2nd. Need to get to 18 before I can confirm the third - so at the moment it's:

    Stalwart Defender 1
    +1 to tower shield (confirmed)

    Stalwart Defender 2
    +1 to armor +1 to tower shield (confirmed)

    Stalwart Defender 3
    +1 to armor +1 to tower shield (guess)

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    defender 1 tower shields
    defneder 2 tower shields and heavy armor
    defender 3 tower shield,heavy, & med armor.

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    So does that mean that 3 is the highest the dex augments go? I was wondering why they gave Stalwart 14 dex until I hit level 3 and found out I could get my Plate to +2 max dex.

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    Here's how it breaks down at Stalwart Defender III:

    +3 Max Dex to Tower Shields
    +2 Max Dex to Heavy Armor
    +1 Max Dex to Medium Armor

    These all stack with Fighter Armor Mastery, Fighter Tower Shield Mastery, and Dwarven Armor Mastery. So, the Max Dex you need is going to depend on which race and which enhancements you are taking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riekan View Post
    Here's how it breaks down at Stalwart Defender III:

    +3 Max Dex to Tower Shields
    +2 Max Dex to Heavy Armor
    +1 Max Dex to Medium Armor

    These all stack with Fighter Armor Mastery, Fighter Tower Shield Mastery, and Dwarven Armor Mastery. So, the Max Dex you need is going to depend on which race and which enhancements you are taking.
    to bad it's not with light armor =(

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    Has anyone else had issues with these bonusses not applying correctly? I know of 2 people other than myself with issues, and both of those are WF fighters, so it might be limited to the race/PrC combo.

    AC & DR pre-stalwart defender

    59 +2 (33 DR)

    Take SD I

    59 +3 (34 DR)

    Take SD II

    59 +4 (35 DR)

    So, the 'additional armor class and DR when blocking with a shield' appears to be working.

    I'm also seeing Intimidate increase.

    But I'm missing both the 'increases your armor class' (see above - I stayed at 59 base AC) and also the 'increases maximum dexterity bonus' aspects.

    I'm a WF in Adamantine Plating. I run with a 19 dex (+4) and pre-mod9 I used Fighter Armor Mastery III to increase the max dex on adamantine plate from 1 to 4. I also wear Levik's shield (max dex 4)

    When I respecced and took Stalwart Defender, I dropped Fighter Armor Mastery II & III leaving just FAM I

    My Max Dex was 2. (Adamantine plate + FAM1)
    I had deliberately left myself some unspent APs, so I used them to retake FAM II & III
    My Max dex returned to 4 (Adamantine plate + FAMIII)

    For me, the supposed increase to base AC and also the increase in max dex does not appear to be applying.

    I suspect this is an issue only affecting Warforged.

    (This is on the European servers btw, but posting anything like this on the codemasters forums is completely pointless as they have nothing to do with the game, all they do is host the servers)

    I hope to reach L18 tonight, and take Stalwart Defender III and test.

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    Default Im having the same issue

    I play a Wf pure fighter lvl 12 on sarlona (U.S.) and I just took stalwart defender 2 yesterday. playing around with it I also notice the missing bonuses.

    Ive also notice when i take my dex item off, my ac does not go down. This could be related to the bug. I did put in a bug report, I suggestion any wf tanks having the same issue do also.

    Hopefully it will get corrected and the devs will atleast be aware of it

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    This has been in the known issues list since Lammania. Stalwart Defender currently does not increase the max dex bonus of adamantine plating.

    Paladin Enhancement, Stalwart Defender: The increase to max dex bonus is not being correct applied to Warforged with adamantine plating.

    I dont know why it still says Paladin after three months. The list updater must be too busy delivering pies in the shire to fix it.
    Last edited by Gorby; 10-01-2009 at 02:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorby View Post
    This has been in the known issues list since Lammania. Stalwart Defender currently does not increase the max dex bonus of adamantine plating.

    Paladin Enhancement, Stalwart Defender: The increase to max dex bonus is not being correct applied to Warforged with adamantine plating.

    I dont know why it still says Paladin after three months. The list updater must be too busy delivering pies in the shire to fix it.
    Ahh, thanks for that.

    Zad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garth_of_Sarlona View Post
    Thanks for the info - I confirmed the 2nd. Need to get to 18 before I can confirm the third - so at the moment it's:

    Stalwart Defender 1
    +1 to tower shield (confirmed)

    Stalwart Defender 2
    +1 to armor +1 to tower shield (confirmed)

    Stalwart Defender 3
    +1 to armor +1 to tower shield (guess)

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    sd 1 and dos 1:
    +1 tower shield

    sd 2 and dos 2:
    +1 more tower shield (tot 2), +1 heavy armor

    sd 3 and dos 3:

    +1 more tower shield (tot 3), +1 more heavy armor (tot 2), +1 medium armor

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    Sorry for the bump, just trying to work this out in my head - but it seems that you'd need a higher Dex to cap out your SHIELD than for your armour, no?

    Regular tower shield = +2 max dex boost.
    Mithril would make it +4.
    Fighter Tower mastery III = +7
    Stalwart III = +10.
    So a 30 dex to cap that out. Wow.

    Armour:
    Mithril fullplate = +3
    FAM 3 = +6
    Stalwart III = +2. No wait, +1 as mithril would make this armour considered "medium" now.
    Total of +7 (24 dex to cap out).

    Am I missing something? Is a non-dwarf more or less hosed for maxing out armour?
    The alternative on armour is a non-mithral fullplate to take advantage of the +2 from Stalwart, but then you end up even 1 more AC short as you lose 2 from lack of mithril, but gain 1 from stalwart III.
    Trying out dragontouched - DT breastplate = +3. So an extra +1 from Stalwart III (medium armour), and +3 from FAM 3 = +7. Same thing there. Hmmm...

    *edit* - and I presume the Stalwart stance stacks with defensive fighting / CE stance, yes?
    That's sick. +8 AC boost in that stance.
    Last edited by Aerendil; 10-09-2009 at 11:50 AM.

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