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    Default build choice

    Ok so i am rolling a new build once new mod comes around i was wondering witch build i should roll. there are 2 bard builds 1 mele 1 croud controll and 1 monk kinda focusing on dps kinda on ac so witch one should o roll.

    build number one.
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    Level 16 Chaotic Good Human Male
    (2 Fighter \ 14 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 179
    Spell Points: 723 
    BAB: 12\12\17\22
    Fortitude: 9
    Reflex: 9
    Will: 8
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
    Strength             16                    22
    Dexterity            10                    10
    Constitution         14                    15
    Intelligence         12                    12
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             16                    23
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 1
    +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 20
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 20
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
    Balance               0                     0
    Bluff                 4                     6
    Concentration         2                     2
    Diplomacy             4                     6
    Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                8                    27
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                  0                     0
    Intimidate            4                     6
    Jump                  4                     6
    Listen               -1                    -1
    Move Silently         0                     0
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform               8                    27
    Repair                1                     1
    Search                1                     1
    Spot                 -1                    -1
    Swim                  4                     6
    Tumble                n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device      8                    28
    
    Notable Equipment
    Ring: Health Ring of  
    Necklace: Golden Cartouche
    Trinket: Trinket of the Magi 
    Cloak: Charismatic Cloak of  
    Belt: Belt of Greater False Life 
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
    
    
    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Bard Haggle I
    Enhancement: Bard Perform I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Haggle II
    Enhancement: Bard Perform II
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Warchanter I
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma III
    build #2

    Code:
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    Level 16 True Neutral Drow Male
    (16 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 182
    Spell Points: 975 
    BAB: 12\12\17\22
    Fortitude: 8
    Reflex: 12
    Will: 9
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Stats          Modified Stats
    Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 16)
    Strength             10                    10
    Dexterity            14                    15
    Constitution         14                    16
    Intelligence         12                    13
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             18                    27
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 1
    
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
    Balance               2                     2
    Bluff                 5                     8
    Concentration         7                    26
    Diplomacy             9                    27
    Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                9                    28
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                  2                     2
    Intimidate            5                     8
    Jump                  0                     0
    Listen               -1                     1
    Move Silently         2                     2
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform               9                    28
    Repair                1                     1
    Search                1                     3
    Spot                 -1                     1
    Swim                  4                     7
    Tumble                6                    21
    Use Magic Device      9                    29
    
    Notable Equipment
    Ring: Health Ring of  
    Trinket: Trinket of the Magi 
    Cloak: Charismatic Cloak of  
    Belt: Belt of Greater False Life 
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Haggle I
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Perform I
    Enhancement: Bard Tumble I
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Concentration I
    Enhancement: Bard Concentration II
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Spellsinger I
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music III
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music IV
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song IV
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma III
    build number three:
    Code:
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    Level 16 Lawful Good Halfling Female
    (16 Monk) 
    Hit Points: 179
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 12\12\17\22
    Fortitude: 12
    Reflex: 21
    Will: 15
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
    Strength             14                    16
    Dexterity            17                    24
    Constitution         11                    12
    Intelligence         13                    13
    Wisdom               14                    18
    Charisma              8                     8
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
    Balance               8                    11
    Bluff                -1                    -1
    Concentration         5                    12
    Diplomacy            -1                    -1
    Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
    Haggle               -1                    -1
    Heal                  2                     4
    Hide                  5                    10
    Intimidate           -1                    -1
    Jump                  6                    11
    Listen                2                     6
    Move Silently         8                    15
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform              n/a                   n/a
    Repair                1                     1
    Search                1                     1
    Spot                  2                     4
    Swim                  3                     3
    Tumble                8                    11
    Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a
    
    Notable Equipment
    Ring: Health Ring
    Belt: Belt of Greater False Life 
    
    Level 1 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Combat Expertise
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Reflex)
    Enhancement: Disciple of Breezes
    Enhancement: Disciple of Puddles
    
    
    Level 2 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
    Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose I
    Enhancement: Void Strike
    Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
    
    
    Level 3 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark I
    Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
    
    
    Level 4 (Monk)
    Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Monk Concentration I
    Enhancement: Monk Concentration II
    
    
    Level 5 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 6 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Healing
    
    
    Level 7 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 8 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 9 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Halfling Athletics I
    Enhancement: Halfling Athletics II
    Enhancement: Halfling Luck II (Reflex)
    Enhancement: Halfling Silent Moves I
    Enhancement: Halfling Silent Moves II
    Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose II
    Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
    Enhancement: Difficulty at the Beginning
    Enhancement: Monk Concentration III
    Enhancement: Monk Jump I
    
    
    Level 10 (Monk)
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark II
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark III
    
    
    Level 11 (Monk)
    Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
    
    
    Level 12 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Dragonmark of Healing
    Enhancement: Adept of Wind
    
    
    Level 13 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 14 (Monk)
    Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Halfling Luck III (Reflex)
    Enhancement: Master of Thunder
    
    
    Level 15 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark IV
    
    
    Level 16 (Monk)
    Enhancement: Ten Thousand Stars
    Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose III
    so now witch one should i roll

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    You should roll.............wait.......none of these builds.

    I will not waste much time disecting poorly constructed builds IMO but I will point out some obvious problems.

    There are major flaws in all 3 builds IMO.
    -Build 1 has a ridiculous ammount of tomes...and is there seriously a +5 tome rofl. I don't think they are even going to be n game.
    -Build 2 you wasted a feat on TWF when there isn't enough Str to hit the broad side of a barn even with max buffs.
    -Build 3 is a Monk with healing marks? Why in the world would you do that? The Monk needs the most help in the DPS dept and wasting feats for healing when they are arguably the most healer friendly class in game is ludicrous.

    Back to the drawing board for you. If at first you fail try try again.

    If you disagree that is fine. These are just my thoughts.

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    sry it got buged on the +5 tomes idk why

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    just picked up a +5 mith tower shield rr dwrof and a bunch of other stuff nice for a dworf fighter so i think im gona roll up a dworf fighter

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