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    Exclamation THE LIST, Episode One.™

    THE LIST, Episode One.™

    As promised, here is a list of situations Turbine considers a violation of the Terms of Service. We will update this list over time, through episodes, to help clarify what how the rules are enforced. If you have any questions about this list, or would like to suggest a particular exploit for clarification please PM a member of the Community Team. Do not debate the rules on the forums, please and thank you. Remember GENERAL discussion of exploits will no longer be taboo subject. However detailing the steps or other significant details of an exploit will continue to be off limits. We will be happy to help when it comes to exploit questions. To be clear though, we will still not allow detailed talk about how to exploit on the forums. No don't do it! Yark! Be sure to PM a question to the Community Team if you must share explicit detail! Please also do not report exploiters on forums. The proper place to report exploiters is in-game using the "?" button.

    The following activities are considered to be violations of the Terms of Service:
    • Using summoned items or creatures to trigger a game bug
    • Purposely using any method that causes monsters or NPCs to become completely unresponsive.
    • Bypassing a door, forcefield, barrier or other geometry which causes monsters or quest events on the other side to become unresponsive.
    • Purposely causing monsters to become stuck or unresponsive on geometry.
    • Using a game bug to remove any or all danger to yourself and/or party.
    • Using any method to repeatedly loot a chest without repeating the quest objectives/content/monster encounters associated with the chest.
    • Using any method to loot a chest or accept quest reward with any character who did not complete the related quest objective from start to finish.
    • Bypassing a quest timer or flagging mechanic which allows you to complete a quest or objective more often than allowed.
    • Any method of removing quest-only weapons, soul stones, or items from a quest instance and/or selling them on via the Marketplace or Auction House.
    • Communicating details on how to exploit, or indicating quests which may be exploited in public. (Including in the LFM panel. Vague comments on your play style are welcome in the Who Panel or your Character Profile.)
    The following activities are NOT considered to be violations, but tactics ("cheesy" or not), that may or may not be "fixed" in the future.
    • Corralling a monster in a corner or other area, as long as the monster remains "conscious" and continues to attempt defense and/or escape.
    • Using the environment (not a ladder) to climb to another location that does not result in monsters or quest events becoming broken.
    • "Perching" on geometry to get a better ranged shot at a monster, as long as the monster remains responsive.
    • "The Hero Method" when it does not involve triggering a bug.
    • "Bouncing Agro"
    • Distracting responsive monsters so a team member can complete another part of the quest without incident.
    We hope this list helps to clarify what Turbine considers violations and answers any questions you may have. If you have additional questions or would like clarification on certain activity, please send a PM to the Community Team and it may be answered directly or in the next episode of "The List". Please note that we receive many PMs from users, and it may take time before we can inquire on your PM, and provide an answer.

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    what doe unresponsive mean does it mean the mob does not move but still has aggro or does it mean the mob has no aggro
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    Thanks for the list and now I feel a lot better knowing what not to do in game. Rather than joining a party and getting many differing answers when someone asks about a tactic.
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    Thanks KK, looks like a nice solid list. Hopefully not too debatable.
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    deleted and PM'd to KK.

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    /claps

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkoHighStar View Post
    what doe unresponsive mean does it mean the mob does not move but still has aggro or does it mean the mob has no aggro
    It means just standing there taking no actions whatsoever....pretty clear IMO.

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    Thanks for the start of clarifications. It will help clear up some things for the player base as a whole.
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    Thanks KK...let the brawling begin.....DING!
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    I see what you did there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dameron View Post
    What does "repeating the quest objectives/content/monster encounters" mean?

    Does this mean if you loot the Giant's Cave, kill the fire giant champion and take his loot you're "exploiting" if you don't go around and break all the boxes, even if you're at -100% xp on the quest?
    or what if you don't complete but get the chest? The chest is unlocked unless this has changed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    I see what you did there.


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    Using any method to repeatedly loot a chest without repeating the quest objectives/content/monster encounters associated with the chest.
    What does "repeating the quest objectives/content/monster encounters" mean?

    Does this mean if you loot the Giant's Cave, kill the fire giant champion and take his loot you're "exploiting" if you don't go around and break all the boxes, even if you're at -100% xp on the quest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus_dead View Post


    Oh come on, please. That's way too harsh. Auctioning soulstones is beyond awesome. They need their own category.
    LOL!!!...I didn't even see that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kommunity Kobold View Post
    The following activities are considered to be violations of the Terms of Service:
    I see your list has no entry for taking one object / stack and cloning it into two of them. Maybe duping isn't possible anymore, but I think it was in the past.

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    This didn't hit the dev tracker...

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    So simply killing the Kobold Paragon in part 2 of the Shroud is an exploit?

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    Thanks for getting a decent sized list out there, and clearing up some of the ambiguity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kommunity Kobold View Post
    [*]Purposely causing monsters to become stuck or unresponsive on geometry.
    Does this include monsters that can't fit through a doorway? Meaning we have to get through the door, over to whatever other area before we can do anything to it? (I'm just thinking about trying to get a caster or ranged specialist through without the usual squishiness becoming an issue).

    Although I could see that as karma for a million PUGs crying "fight in the doorway"


    Quote Originally Posted by Kommunity Kobold View Post
    [*]Using any method to repeatedly loot a chest without repeating the quest objectives/content/monster encounters associated with the chest.
    Does this include using stealth skills to get to a chest not associated with killing a specific monster? If it's just lying out there, either unguarded or with, let us say, guardians that are too busy picking their noses to notice me, I assume it's mine.

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    I'd say pretty much all of these things are items that I've always considered to be exploits. The "grey area" stuff was stuff I thought was cheesy but probably not an exploit. I guess Turbine and I think alike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbryan2 View Post
    So simply killing the Kobold Paragon in part 2 of the Shroud is an exploit?
    I'm mildly impressed with this new forthcoming Turbine.
    I think they are being as descriptive as they can without actually naming the bugs directly.
    I think that is an unavoidable circumstance and not in the spirit of the rule.....so......um.......no?
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