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    Default Preemptive Builds Rating Thread

    According to Tolero; The forums will also be getting a change up on Monday. Be on the look out for new forums opening, like the new Builds forum, Gameplay forums, and Screenshot forum "Visions of Eberron"!

    I Like this but want something more from our community; A rating system to help clear up and distinguish The Good, The Bad and The Fugly. It would go something like this:

    By Class
    • Fighter
    • Ranger
    • Barbarian
    • Sorcerer
    • Wizard
    • Bard
    • Cleric
    • Monk
    • Paladin
    • Multi-class


    or could be
    By Specialty
    • Group Play / Soloist
    • Intimitank
    • DPS
    • AC
    • Etc.


    I came up with 6 areas to rate, but want feedback if there are other areas more important:

    • Ability to Draw Agro
    • Ability to Buff
    • Ability to Heal
    • Ability to Take / Avoid Damage
    • Ability to Kill / incapacitate Mobs
    • Ability to Kill Red/ Purple Named Bosses


    A point system 1 - 4

    1 = Not very good
    2 = Good
    3 = Very Good
    4 = The Best

    Since this is subjective and open to interpretation, 1-4 should have a value. For example;
    Ability to draw agro
    4-Intimidate 60+
    3-Area of effect spells,Intimidate 59-40, WF Enh, Pal, Mod 8 Enh
    2-Intimidate 39-
    1-No Intimidate

    I hope this gives you a general idea. Again I'm suggesting this to help clear out the clutter, but as a bonus we could also end up with a top 10 in each class, voted on by the community, but with the rating system above designed by the community for practical judging purposses. Any thoughts let me know?
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    And whos gonna be responsible for the "Ratings"?

    Rating a build is so subjective it would never be universally accepted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    And whos gonna be responsible for the "Ratings"?

    Rating a build is so subjective it would never be universally accepted.
    The value for the ratings would have to be determined/agreed by the community. So long as the point value was predetermined and agreeed to. Getting everyone to universally accept is a matter of getting community involvment in the establishment of the point values.

    I'm open to other suggestions that would help clear some of the clutter. People post builds here, they get trashed on occasion. Sometimes this trashing is backed up, sometimes not. Ultimatly if someone wanted to build a tank, or a rogue, or an AC build, sometimes they will spend alot of time sifting through and not come up with anything solid, or if they did find something, its unclear on certain issues. We can come up with a way to help sort this, just have to agree on it.
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    Thats my point though. we will NEVER get everyone to agree on it. This isnt COngress where it just takes a Majority to set something in motion. All it takes is on disenter to completely screw up the system.

    and most builds arent presented as the End all Be all. I post a lot of builds. Most people use my builds as a guild line rather than the definitive best way to build X character. The more diversity in characters the better. SUre, Some people go stat for stat, and feat for feat on a posted build. but thats not always the best way to buld a character to suit your own personal needs. I'd rather see someone take a build and disect it and form their own conclusions on whats going to be fun for THEM to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    Thats my point though. we will NEVER get everyone to agree on it. This isnt COngress where it just takes a Majority to set something in motion. All it takes is on disenter to completely screw up the system.

    and most builds arent presented as the End all Be all. I post a lot of builds. Most people use my builds as a guild line rather than the definitive best way to build X character. The more diversity in characters the better. SUre, Some people go stat for stat, and feat for feat on a posted build. but thats not always the best way to buld a character to suit your own personal needs. I'd rather see someone take a build and disect it and form their own conclusions on whats going to be fun for THEM to play.
    Point taken. I suppose I can only hope a build thread will organize builds to be found easier based on what a person is looking for. Some people like to disect some rather be pointed dead on, but generally people don't want to spend the amount of time that is currently needed to find a viable build.
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