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    Quote Originally Posted by Do'Urden View Post
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    One comment on the original build is that you can't take the Improved Critical feat as referenced at level 9 (BAB not high enough even with the 2 fighter levels).
    About time someone pointed out an error in my build, I was thinking Imp Crit was level 9 not BAB 8 oops. Edit in process.
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    Wink Some infos about your build

    To correct the information that was post earlier, there's plan for Bard & Barbarian Class in 4.0. It should be release in P&H II.

    For OP, I play a similar kind of build over Ghallanda, name is Oreille le Bard, but I did go with a lvl of Barbarian instead of Fighter. No need to explain the pros and cons of this choice.

    It's my personnal flavor and I love to play him this way.

    At low and mid level this toon can stay head to head in kill count with any other DPS type.

    At higher level, considering that you need to have (like any other type of build) decent weapon to output decent dps.

    My AC su.. cause I rely on BLUR, DISPLACEMENT and STONESKIN to protect myself.

    Considering that I have a MIN II Greataxe, dmg output is awesome. I never attempt to solo stuff a higher content, cause I don't want to assume the money pit involve with repair wand. But in a group, songs and buffs are more than welcome and i have never any trouble to pug any RAID at all.

    I hope that you have fun with it as much as I had with mine.

    If you want I can post it somewhere on the forum, but it look very close to DAEMONIS Warfogedchanter build adapted to my taste

    Regards

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    And here is Fleshchanter on the planner:
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    Fleshchanter Battlebard
    Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male
    (2 Fighter \ 18 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 320
    Spell Points: 583 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 14
    Reflex: 11
    Will: 9
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             18                    27
    Dexterity             9                    10
    Constitution         15                    20
    Intelligence          8                     8
    Wisdom                6                     6
    Charisma             14                    19
    
    Tomes Used
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 20
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 20
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance              -1                     0
    Bluff                 2                     4
    Concentration         2                     5
    Diplomacy             2                     4
    Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                2                     4
    Heal                 -2                    -2
    Hide                  3                    21
    Intimidate            2                     4
    Jump                  4                     9
    Listen               -2                    -2
    Move Silently         3                    21
    Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
    Perform               6                    25
    Repair               -1                    -1
    Search               -1                    -1
    Spot                 -2                     6
    Swim                  4                     8
    Tumble                3                     4
    Use Magic Device      6                    30
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    
    
    Level 2 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
    Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
    Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I
    Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
    Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude I
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
    
    
    Level 8 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song IV
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
    Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
    Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II
    Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack III
    Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude II
    Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude III
    Quote Originally Posted by Milamber69 View Post
    Please forgive my personal attack, I was high on Platypus Venom at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeaselKing View Post
    And here is Fleshchanter on the planner:
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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.08
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    Fleshchanter Battlebard
    Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male
    (2 Fighter \ 18 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 320
    Spell Points: 583 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 14
    Reflex: 11
    Will: 9
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             18                    27
    Dexterity             9                    10
    Constitution         15                    20
    Intelligence          8                     8
    Wisdom                6                     6
    Charisma             14                    19
    
    Tomes Used
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 20
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 20
    
    Out of curiosity, why the 14 base charisma? You don't need it for spell DCs, and it only gives a very small increase to SP. Wouldn't those points be better served elsewhere? Perhaps in CON, as it is a melee-focused character? For example, if you drop CHA to 12, you can get CON to 17 and DEX to 10. You save the +1 DEX tome and have 20 more hp and +1 fort save.
    Quote Originally Posted by Minor_Threat View Post
    exactly, thanks for proving my point, Malarkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malaky View Post
    Out of curiosity, why the 14 base charisma? You don't need it for spell DCs, and it only gives a very small increase to SP. Wouldn't those points be better served elsewhere? Perhaps in CON, as it is a melee-focused character? For example, if you drop CHA to 12, you can get CON to 17 and DEX to 10. You save the +1 DEX tome and have 20 more hp and +1 fort save.
    This build was based on the Warforgedchanter build and thus the 14 cha, in fact I have this guy rolled essentially although he is a 15 brd/1 ftr atm. I see no reason why you couldn't do as you propose.

    Also you could probably drop SF:UMD at high levels, 39 is all you really need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malaky View Post
    Out of curiosity, why the 14 base charisma? You don't need it for spell DCs, and it only gives a very small increase to SP. Wouldn't those points be better served elsewhere? Perhaps in CON, as it is a melee-focused character? For example, if you drop CHA to 12, you can get CON to 17 and DEX to 10. You save the +1 DEX tome and have 20 more hp and +1 fort save.
    People still look at me funny when they hear how high Fleshchanter's cha is (24) but I still stand by it, nothing beats hitting a 41 umd WITHOUT GH or seven fingered gloves and at 505 hp I don't mind "only" having 26 (28 w/rage).

    This toon is, without question, my best character.
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    Bump so I can find this bloody thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Milamber69 View Post
    Please forgive my personal attack, I was high on Platypus Venom at the time.

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    1/2 orc sellout -1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Tank View Post
    1/2 orc sellout -1
    Pow!
    Quote Originally Posted by Milamber69 View Post
    Please forgive my personal attack, I was high on Platypus Venom at the time.

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