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    Quote Originally Posted by Inoukchuk View Post
    I agree Sireth is best option, but it's nice to have stout oak in case blunt damage is needed. It's also nice to have an option for those who don't have Sireth yet (I have mine but it's not upgraded, so I didn't include prowess set).
    Pretty much what I do. Stout Oak is nice for the blunt occasionally. Also works nice for a back up if you break Sireth. And anyone who's played an acrobat for a while understands that their weapons take more wear than any other build's in the game pretty much (Most attacks landed in given time period on a single weapon, except perhaps handwraps since the offhand attacks use the same weapon, but they don't seem to have as high a chance (or whatever) to take damage per hit as staffs do).
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    Anybody try a 15 Monk/3 Druid/2 Rogue yet?

    15% Attack Speed Bonus from Rogue
    20% Attack Speed Bonus building from Fatal Harrier
    15% Increase from Grandmaster Wind
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    50% Attack Speed Bonus
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    30% Attack Speed Bonus from Haste Boost
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    80% Attack Speed Bonus

    Other Goodies:
    30% Doublestrike active from Druid/10% Doublestrike from Wind
    Neg Level Henshin Tier 5
    Self healing stuffs from being a light monk
    25% Move Speed Increase
    +1[W] from Druid
    ~6d6 SA depending on enhancements (Combine with Unbalancing Strike)
    Ram's Might from Druid

    Traps possible but require 14+ INT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelodic View Post
    Anybody try a 15 Monk/3 Druid/2 Rogue yet?

    15% Attack Speed Bonus from Rogue
    20% Attack Speed Bonus building from Fatal Harrier
    15% Increase from Grandmaster Wind
    =
    50% Attack Speed Bonus
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    30% Attack Speed Bonus from Haste Boost
    =
    80% Attack Speed Bonus
    Woah! Slow down there.

    1- The 20% on fatal harrier is the same bonus type as the wind stance bonus (and Haste). Also harrier goes to 25%. In any case these don't stack.

    2-Fatal Harrier's duration got nerfed, I don't find it worth it anymore, all the stacks go out at once.

    3-wind stance same as haste

    As far as attack speed, you pretty much just have acrobat attack speed with haste, and sometimes haste boost (not unusual).

    That said, that doesn't mean its a bad build at all. Just that there was a huge misrepresentation in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diyon View Post
    Woah! Slow down there.

    1- The 20% on fatal harrier is the same bonus type as the wind stance bonus (and Haste). Also harrier goes to 25%. In any case these don't stack.

    2-Fatal Harrier's duration got nerfed, I don't find it worth it anymore, all the stacks go out at once.

    3-wind stance same as haste

    As far as attack speed, you pretty much just have acrobat attack speed with haste, and sometimes haste boost (not unusual).

    That said, that doesn't mean its a bad build at all. Just that there was a huge misrepresentation in there.
    Haste boost should stack with everything- it stacks with Wind Stance/Haste and Rogue Competence bonus

    I thought Fatal Harrier was a type of it's own, but I guess not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelodic View Post
    Haste boost should stack with everything- it stacks with Wind Stance/Haste and Rogue Competence bonus

    I thought Fatal Harrier was a type of it's own, but I guess not.
    I included haste boost as stacking. =D

    Quote Originally Posted by Diyon View Post
    ...acrobat attack speed with haste, and sometimes haste boost (not unusual).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diyon View Post
    I included haste boost as stacking. =D
    If Fatal Harrier can get up to 25% and stacks with Acrobat but not haste, you can still get up to 70% or 40% sustained. Which is a lot, but the duration nerf really sucks.
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    The Lammania release note for u 20 have the 2 staff lines re-named to Henshin staff training and Acrobat staff training. Guess that means they'll be stacking again. Haven't had time to actually test that theory out yet though.
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    I can't think of any other reason that they would change the names other than to allow them to stack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Battery View Post
    The Lammania release note for u 20 have the 2 staff lines re-named to Henshin staff training and Acrobat staff training. Guess that means they'll be stacking again. Haven't had time to actually test that theory out yet though.
    I think they are renaming them to clarify the fact, that they already are stacking. And they stack, even on live.

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    Hi guys, im going to TR as a rogue and i would like to know if this quarterstaff build is still a thing. Should i go 20 rogue or 17 rogue 3 monk better? Any advise would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorteCerta View Post
    Hi guys, im going to TR as a rogue and i would like to know if this quarterstaff build is still a thing. Should i go 20 rogue or 17 rogue 3 monk better? Any advise would be great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinco View Post
    Not really, the hottest stick-chick in the bar at the moment is most likely this one
    ty, the only problem is that i dont have the Bladeforged

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    Well, should work on a fleshie in some form, too. Human for example is always nice. You get plenty of UMD and some Lay on Hands to sustain.
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    Welcome back. But do you still hunger?


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    Ok...pulling a big no no and necro'ing this thread! LOL

    In my defense, I did necro my Ugly Stick build the other day. First time I logged that toon in over a year. He used to be a lot fun to play, and I was wondering if it is even viable anymore? Is there a set-up or variant worth LRing for, or should it just stay a bank toon and maybe try some variant of this on a rogue life for my completionist?

    Any thoughts at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDCrowell View Post
    Ok...pulling a big no no and necro'ing this thread! LOL

    In my defense, I did necro my Ugly Stick build the other day. First time I logged that toon in over a year. He used to be a lot fun to play, and I was wondering if it is even viable anymore? Is there a set-up or variant worth LRing for, or should it just stay a bank toon and maybe try some variant of this on a rogue life for my completionist?

    Any thoughts at all?

    Lol.

    I also logged in to my old level 17 Stick Horc yesterday. (My leftover Midwinter stuff was on him, on Orien.)

    I did try to play it for a few minutes, but I did not take time to retweak it any. I think a good stick-twirler will always be fun to play if you can keep up with game changes on it.

    That said - I am not the tweaker you're searching for. Just a fan club member.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdbd3rd View Post
    Lol.

    I also logged in to my old level 17 Stick Horc yesterday. (My leftover Midwinter stuff was on him, on Orien.)

    I did try to play it for a few minutes, but I did not take time to retweak it any. I think a good stick-twirler will always be fun to play if you can keep up with game changes on it.

    That said - I am not the tweaker you're searching for. Just a fan club member.
    Yea, my guy is at level 20, but I shelved him before even flagging for Shroud. Most of his gear has been stripped and moved around, and he only has crafted q-staffs. He was a fun, first-life toon to play. It just seems more like flavor these days to watch a H-Orc do back flips with a q-staff ...
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    Welcome back.

    Acrobats haven't received as much attention as Assassins and Mechanics have, but there are a couple of updated builds for them:
    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...-Thief-Acrobat
    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5732415
    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...-Thief-Acrobat

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