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    Default Want the best Ranger Tempest build (elven)

    Hi can someone please give me a Tempest ranger build a good one preferably a dex/str based one but anythign would be nice. i want it to be an elf if possible, thanks guys!


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    do you want a str based, or a dex based? They are two different builds.

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    Well, as a jumping off point, for an elf str/dex build I would recommend you go Ranger 6/Fighter 10 with starting stats of 18 str, 16 dex, and dump the rest into con with a nod to wisdom if you'd like to cast spells right away though not a huge deal. From there keep up your elven sword enhancements and pick up feat: oversized two-weapon fighting at 3rd lvl by dipping into your first fighter lvl. Put all 4 of your ability increases into strength as well as the fighter enhancement line's str. End result, you can rock full plate while slicin' dudes with your s-words. If you have the patience to wait until you can unlock 32 pt build, the better but not the end of the world by any means if you roll a 28 pointer. Hope this helps.

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    Getting the first two elven dragonmarks and possibly extend increases your survivability quite a bit. Especially viable if you take a fighter level or two for extra feats.

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    I wouldn't make an elven melee character without the displacement dragonmarks, not that I would personally make an elven melee. You want tempest which requires at least 6 levels of ranger and in order to get tempest and the dragon marks you are going to need to splash some fighter or monk levels in order to get all the feats. I would go with an 11 ranger/4 fighter/ 1 monk build or a 13 ranger/2 monk/1 fighter build something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    I wouldn't make an elven melee character without the displacement dragonmarks, not that I would personally make an elven melee. You want tempest which requires at least 6 levels of ranger and in order to get tempest and the dragon marks you are going to need to splash some fighter or monk levels in order to get all the feats. I would go with an 11 ranger/4 fighter/ 1 monk build or a 13 ranger/2 monk/1 fighter build something like that.
    personally i'd go 11/3/2 Ranger/Monk/Fighter dual-wielding Kamas but since he's going Elf, 12/3/1 Ranger/Fighter/Monk for full Barkskin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay203 View Post
    personally i'd go 11/3/2 Ranger/Monk/Fighter dual-wielding Kamas but since he's going Elf, 12/3/1 Ranger/Fighter/Monk for full Barkskin
    Hold up no kamas, but rather rapiers all the way... I thought some more on this and I would go with 12 ranger 2 monk 2 fighter that way you get four bonus feats and still have full barkskin..
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    Hold up no kamas, but rather rapiers all the way... I thought some more on this and I would go with 12 ranger 2 monk 2 fighter that way you get four bonus feats and still have full barkskin..
    lol, everyone has a thing against kamas :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay203 View Post
    lol, everyone has a thing against kamas :P
    Yes because kamas (20 x2 crit range) are inferior to the rapier (18-20 x2 crit range) and in fact kamas are just about the worst weapon in ddo..
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    Hold up no kamas, but rather rapiers all the way... I thought some more on this and I would go with 12 ranger 2 monk 2 fighter that way you get four bonus feats and still have full barkskin..
    This is my exact ranger build, he's halfling. I'm extremely pleased with it so far.

    Once level 20 hits I will probably take the rest ranger levels, but I might take 2 ranger levels and 2 more fighter levels. Not sure yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspenor View Post
    This is my exact ranger build, he's halfling. I'm extremely pleased with it so far.

    Once level 20 hits I will probably take the rest ranger levels, but I might take 2 ranger levels and 2 more fighter levels. Not sure yet.
    I think I argued with you on your thread about your level breakdown. The reason why this situation is different then your build is the OP wants to go elf and if you go elf you pretty much should find a way to get the displacement dragonmarks which are really the only reason to go elf melee currently so hence I recommend the 2 fighter and 2 monk levels for the feats..
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    I think I argued with you on your thread about your level breakdown. The reason why this situation is different then your build is the OP wants to go elf and if you go elf you pretty much should find a way to get the displacement dragonmarks which are really the only reason to go elf melee currently so hence I recommend the 2 fighter and 2 monk levels for the feats..
    Indeed, but regardless of the elf marks the feats are useful to any race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    Yes because kamas (20 x2 crit range) are inferior to the rapier (18-20 x2 crit range) and in fact kamas are just about the worst weapon in ddo..
    yet Kamas are the only dual-able weapon for a monk and it is slashing so that calls for dual vorpal
    besides, if you go dual kama when you splash a monk, you get to use elemental stances as well as ki strikes for a little bonus damage =P

    then again, i think differently from most ppl, so meh~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay203 View Post
    yet Kamas are the only dual-able weapon for a monk and it is slashing so that calls for dual vorpal
    besides, if you go dual kama when you splash a monk, you get to use elemental stances as well as ki strikes for a little bonus damage =P

    then again, i think differently from most ppl, so meh~
    Which is less dps even with the ki strikes then the rapiers so no kamas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay203 View Post
    yet Kamas are the only dual-able weapon for a monk and it is slashing so that calls for dual vorpal
    besides, if you go dual kama when you splash a monk, you get to use elemental stances as well as ki strikes for a little bonus damage =P

    then again, i think differently from most ppl, so meh~
    it really only makes sense for a monk splash ranger to use kamas exclusively to vorpal. This is because flurry of blows can be used to up your BAB for the monk levels to full, for that extra to confirm the crit.

    That's about the only reason to use a kama for this type of build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspenor View Post
    it really only makes sense for a monk splash ranger to use kamas exclusively to vorpal. This is because flurry of blows can be used to up your BAB for the monk levels to full, for that extra to confirm the crit.

    That's about the only reason to use a kama for this type of build.
    Good point. For vorpalling switch to kamas..
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    The first thing I would do is pick up a Monk level and a couple of kam...


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    I have a level 10 drow ranger, I would have to say he is a dex build (dex bonus is +8). Is it too late to take some monk or fighter levels to be a tempest build?
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    Default not a ranger

    i do not consider this build to be a ranger

    anyway, 12 ranger/4 fighter is a good breakdown for an elf

    dm's are great for elven melee

    IMO str-based is far superior to dex-based for a tempest

    i have a capped elven tempest 12 ranger/4 fighter with 32 str, 30 dex & over 350 hitpoints

    with displacement, she is very survivable & is also a lot of fun to play while dual-wielding longswords/rapiers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishmaal View Post
    Well, as a jumping off point, for an elf str/dex build I would recommend you go Ranger 6/Fighter 10 with starting stats of 18 str, 16 dex, and dump the rest into con with a nod to wisdom if you'd like to cast spells right away though not a huge deal. From there keep up your elven sword enhancements and pick up feat: oversized two-weapon fighting at 3rd lvl by dipping into your first fighter lvl. Put all 4 of your ability increases into strength as well as the fighter enhancement line's str. End result, you can rock full plate while slicin' dudes with your s-words. If you have the patience to wait until you can unlock 32 pt build, the better but not the end of the world by any means if you roll a 28 pointer. Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liamfrancais View Post
    I have a level 10 drow ranger, I would have to say he is a dex build (dex bonus is +8). Is it too late to take some monk or fighter levels to be a tempest build?
    no. take monk next get dodge as class bonus, then take two fighter and take mobility and spring attack, and there ya go all the tempest prereqs with three levels to spare still.

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