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    Default The Switch Hitter (a buid by request)

    This build is from Sigtrent's build request thread

    Build Name: Switch Hitter
    Author: Sigfried Trent
    Requester: Thame
    Last Updated: 07/14/10

    Key Words [Tank, DPS, TWF, Human, Intimidate]

    The request was for a full on tank with heavy duty AC that could still dole out decent damage, probably using a Kopesh. He wanted Human or Dwarf and did not care too much about class. My basic take on this hasn’t changed much but it has become quite a lot better thanks to the level cap and prestige enhancements.

    I wanted to go Stalwart Defender as its probably the best of the intim-tank prestige classes and intim-tank is pretty much king in the AC department. It did want to see some of the saves you get from Defender of Siberys so I splashed paladin to bump all around saves and the extra aura AC doesn’t hurt.

    Feats progress a bit choppy, starting with offense, then a set of defense, then back to offense and so on. I end up with the full TWF lines and the full weapon spec lines for slashing which is quite a bit of offense. On the tank side all the usual culprits are there plus some bonuses to intimidate. I happen to like the dragon mark over skill focus intim as the shield of faith frees an inventory slot and provides early access to a good deflection bonus.

    I took the trick from the excellent Hurtlocker build of doing the feats such that you can enhancement swap for the Kensai prestige enhancement if you care to go all DPS all the time. I don’t have the multiple toughness feats so HP may be a little shy of some dedicated tanks, but it does have some healing amplification to make incoming heals count more.

    I also tossed in UMD since I had the skill points and a feat slot for skill focus. With gear it should be enough to activate although perhaps now when suited up in tanking gear. It also won’t be too useful until late in the builds life. Not much more to say other than it kicks a lot of ass both on offense and defense.

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    Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
    (18 Fighter \ 2 Paladin) 
    Hit Points: 352
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
    Fortitude: 21
    Reflex: 14
    Will: 11
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    26
    Dexterity            15                    18
    Constitution         14                    16
    Intelligence         12                    14
    Wisdom                8                    10
    Charisma             12                    16
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               4                    15
    Bluff                 1                     3
    Concentration         2                     3
    Diplomacy             1                     3
    Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                1                     3
    Heal                 -1                     0
    Hide                  2                     4
    Intimidate            5                    41
    Jump                  7                    31
    Listen               -1                     0
    Move Silently         2                     4
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                1                     2
    Search                1                     2
    Spot                 -1                     0
    Swim                  3                     8
    Tumble                3                    10
    Use Magic Device      2                    17
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Sentinel
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Deneith Intimidation I
    Enhancement: Human Versatility I
    Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate I
    Level 2 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    Level 3 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
    Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
    Level 4 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery I
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
    Level 6 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
    Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate II
    Level 7 (Fighter)
    Level 8 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise
    Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Level 10 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery II
    Enhancement: Fighter Khopesh Specialization I
    Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate III
    Level 11 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
    Level 12 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength III
    Level 13 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Level 14 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
    Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender II
    Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense II
    Level 15 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Bullheaded
    Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Charisma I
    Level 16 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate IV
    Level 17 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III
    Level 18 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device
    Level 19 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost III
    Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery III
    Level 20 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender III
    Enhancement: Fighter Khopesh Specialization II

    Since it doesn’t really have any weaknesses, its hard to say much about special play here. Learn the ropes of tanking and beating things up. Be nice to your healers because you will need them from time to time.

    Due to the number of feats you can switch things up to focus more in one area or another. The same goes for enhancements. I somewhat shorted the build on tower shield use but you could swap that out for the healing amp. I tend to dislike tower shields due to the armor penalties on them.
    Last edited by sigtrent; 07-14-2010 at 05:32 PM.
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    Cool Love this what do I do?

    I followed this build to a tee. When mod 9 hits what should I take for levels 17-20. I considered 2 lvls of monk for evasion and the rest fighter. Or maybe 4 lvls of ranger? I just like the thought of having evasion. Any reason not to take it?

    Thanks in advance

    Quote Originally Posted by sigtrent View Post
    This build is from Sigtrent's build request thread

    The Switch Hitter a Lawful Good Human Paladin 3 / Fighter 13
    Requested By: Thame

    Thame wanted a true tank character that really emphasized Ac but also used a kopesh for as much DPS as you can muster sword and board. He preferred either human or dwarf and wasn’t too picky about class. So my primary mission was to mix DPS and AC but to really max out AC as much as I could in that context.

    I actually made two builds, the other is a very tanky dwarf with tactics and focused on one handed. This was my first thought though, and I like this build better overall. The idea here is to be able to go for a very strong defense, and then switch over to a very strong offense depending on the situation. Since a tank was requested it starts with more tank feats but it ends with some pretty heavy duty Two handed fighting abilities.

    I like it because it can really deliver on both accounts. Not quite the AC of a pure paladin, and not quite the DPS of a pure barbarian, but you get nearly 90% of each in the same build and you have some other nice tricks up your sleeves to boot.

    ---------- Build Basics ----------

    Starting Statistics (32pts)

    :17 :13 :14 :13 :08 :11

    Combat Expertise, Dodge, Toughness, Power Attack, Cleave, Weapon Focus Slashing, Weapon Specialization Slashing, Improved Critical Slashing, Kopesh, Greater Weapon Focus Slashing, Greater Weapon Specilization Slashing, Two handed fighting, Improved Two handed fighting, Greater Two handed fighting

    Haste Boost 2, Armor mastery 3, Item Defense 1, Human Str 1, Human Con 1, Improved Recovery 2, Human Versatility 4, Resistance of good 1, Bulwark of good 1, Intimidate 1, Fighter Strength 3, Toughness 4

    Skill Ranks
    Intimidate 19, Balance 9.5, Jump 16, UMD 9.5

    ---------- Number Crunching ----------

    Final Statistics (Tomes: +2 str, +1 dex, +1 con, +1 cha)

    :32 :20 :22 :13 :08 :18

    Hit Points ~380 / Spell Points ~0
    Fort ~31 / Reflex ~24 / Will ~18

    Defensive Melee Attack Profile (+5 Greensteel Kopesh)
    BAB 16, Str 11, Weapon 5, Tower -2, GH 4, Haste Pot 1, Weapon Focus 2, Expertise -5
    32/32/38/42 1d10 + 20 (17-20 X3) & other effects

    Offensive Melee Attack Profile (Sword of Shadows & Rage pot)
    BAB 16, Str 12, Weapon 5, GH 4, Haste Pot 1, Weapon Focus 2, Power Attack -5
    35/35/40/45 2d6 + 37 (15-20 X3) & Glancing Blows & Haste/Damage Boosts

    Maximum Armor Class (+5 Black Dragon Plate w Ritual & +5 Mithral Tower Shield w Ritual)
    Armor 15, Dex 4, Barkskin Potion 3, Deflection 5, Shield 10, Chattering Ring 3, Dodge 1, Chaos guard 2, Insight 4, Expertise 5, Haste pot 1, Aura 2 = 64 (69 with boost) (with room to grow from friends to about 72(77))

    Key Skills
    Intimidate: Ranks 19, Stat 4, Item 15, Enhancements 1, GH 4 = 43 (47 w boost)
    UMD: Ranks 9, Stat 4, Item 5, GH 4, Boost 5 = 27

    ---------- Leveling Guide ----------

    1st Level: Fighter
    Toughness, Kopesh, Weapon Focus Slashing : Intimidate 4, Jump 4, Balance 2

    2nd Level: Fighter
    Dodge : Intimidate 1, Jump 1, Balance .5

    3rd Level: Fighter
    Power Attack : Intimidate 1, Jump 1, Balance .5

    4th Level: Fighter
    Str +1 : Weapon Specilization Slashing : Intimidate 1, Jump 1, Balance .5

    5th Level: Paladin
    Intimidate 1, Balance .5

    6th Level: Paladin
    Combat Expertise : Intimidate 1, Balance .5

    7th Level: Fighter
    Intimidate 1, Balance .5

    8th Level: Fighter
    Str +1 : Improved Critical Slashing : Intimidate 1, Balance .5

    9th Level: Paladin
    Cleave : Intimidate 1, Balance .5

    10th Level: Fighter
    Intimidate 1, Balance .5

    11th Level: Fighter
    Greater Weapon Focus Slashing : Intimidate 1, Balance .5

    12th Level: Fighter
    Str +1 : Two handed fighting : Intimidate 1, Jump 1, Balance .5

    13th Level: Fighter
    Improved Two handed fighting : Intimidate 1, Jump 1, Balance .5

    14th Level: Fighter
    Intimidate 1, Jump 1, Balance .5

    15th Level: Fighter
    Greater Weapon Specializations Slashing, Greater Two Handed fighting : Intimidate 1, Jump 1, Balance .5

    16th Level: Fighter
    Str +1 : Intimidate 1, Jump 1, Balance .5

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    you will need to remove a level of paladin. Maybe Sigtent will return one day maybe never.

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    If your split is already 13/3 i´d finish it with 14 / 6. to get the 1st tier of the Paladin PrE.

    Yes, taking 2 levels in Monk / Rogue / Ranger would have been better than taking the 13th and 14th level of Fighter, but still not so much that an reroll is requiered if you still have fun playing the character. He willl definetly be able to pull his weigh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctus View Post
    If your split is already 13/3 i´d finish it with 14 / 6. to get the 1st tier of the Paladin PrE.
    I would even consider taking 13 fighter 7 pally for the next tier of divine sacrifice to boost your damage output.... since your mana bar that you acquire for all intensive purposes is useless anyway... also gives an increase towards your LoH..
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    nm missed read the two handed line of feats thought it said two weapon
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    This build is very interesting to me, and looks to be very close to what I want to build to tank for our small, dedicated guild. How would you change this build to accommodate a 28 pt build?

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    Good build, /signed
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