Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 41 to 49 of 49
  1. #41
    Community Member ~True_Knight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    170

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Master of None View Post
    How far are you along with this version? Stats look ok; I'd put more points in cha, but that's a judgment call. I ask because I think you'd benefit from switching around finesse and twf so you can take finesse first. The benefits of twf aren't that great until you get at least improved, and you might be using a shield at low levels anyway. Finesse will help you right away.

    I also see you don't have improved crit. I really think you should fit that in somewhere; it's a great feat for any combat class. I'd certainly take it over toughness (which you can get on the Minos helm anyway), and probably even greater twf.
    I can swap twf with Finesse...good call. I see what you mean about Improved Crit. I will drop toughness for it. However, I couldn't see dropping GTWF.

    CuChoinneach Deathslayer Knight of the Undying Court

  2. #42
    Community Member ~True_Knight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    170

    Default

    OK... how does this sound for starting stats?

    S 10
    D 18
    C 12
    I 14
    W 8
    Ch 12

    I just revised these numbers.... these should be about right. I can't think of any better spread.
    Last edited by True Knight; 04-08-2008 at 01:10 PM.

    CuChoinneach Deathslayer Knight of the Undying Court

  3. #43
    Community Member Stealthbr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    225

    Default

    Look into grabbing the Improved Critical feat as it is an excellent choice for just about any melee class especially if you are looking into wielding a weapon like the rapier (15-20 crit range is great). Your will save will be similar to the will save of other rogues except the ones that have paladin levels. That is a problem I find very frustrating when Im running with my ex-main rogue (12rogue/2fighter) as he can get affected by spells pretty easily. Try get a 10 Wisdom for an extra +1 to your will saves.

  4. #44
    Community Member ~True_Knight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    170

    Default

    K...revised again. I think I'm pretty close to final. I grabbed Improved Crit and used the starting stats above. I can't figure how to raise wis and not sacrifice in any other area. I can always grab a +wis item.

    Here's the latest build.... I spread out the levels of fighter to take advantage of getting Improved Crit when my BAB is at 8. Thus, I moved my 1st level of wiz to lvl 3. So the spread is 1Rog/2Ftr/3Wiz/4-7Rog/8Ftr/9and up...Rog.

    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 2.85
    DDO Character Planner Home Page
    
    Shandolari d'Phiarlan
    Level 16 Neutral Good Elf Female
    (2 Fighter \ 13 Rogue \ 1 Wizard) 
    Hit Points: 138
    Spell Points: 150 
    BAB: 11\11\16\21
    Fortitude: 8
    Reflex: 14
    Will: 5
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Stats          Modified Stats
    Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 16)
    Strength             10                    10
    Dexterity            18                    22
    Constitution         12                    12
    Intelligence         14                    14
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             12                    12
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
    Balance               7                    15
    Bluff                 1                     3
    Concentration         1                     1
    Diplomacy             1                     1
    Disable Device        6                    21
    Haggle                1                     1
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                  8                    28.5
    Intimidate            1                     1
    Jump                  4                    15
    Listen                3                    20
    Move Silently         8                    28.5
    Open Lock             8                    24
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                2                     2
    Search                5                    18
    Spot                  2                    14
    Swim                  0                     0
    Tumble                7                     9
    Use Magic Device      5                    20
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Shadow
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Elf Melee Damage I
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
    
    Level 2 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Finesse
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Rogue Hide I
    Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently I
    
    Level 3 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
    Spell (1): Feather Fall
    Spell (1): Hypnotism
    Spell (1): Mage Armor
    Spell (1): Ray of Enfeeblement
    Spell (1): Shield
    
    Level 4 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
    
    Level 5 (Rogue)
    
    Level 6 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
    Enhancement: Rogue Hide II
    Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently II
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark II
    
    Level 7 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Elf Melee Damage II
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking II
    
    Level 8 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Dragonmark of Shadow
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Way of the Assassin I
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking III
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Cripling Strike
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber IV
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking IV

    CuChoinneach Deathslayer Knight of the Undying Court

  5. #45
    Community Member Stealthbr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    225

    Default

    At lvl 8, you wont have enough BAB to take Imp Crit. At 8, you will have... 5 BAB? I think you are going to have to grab Fighter 2 at lvl 11.

  6. #46
    Community Member ~True_Knight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    170

    Default

    oops.... I meant level 9! So that I could get ITWF and my last DM. Impr Crit will come in at Lvl 11. What was I thinking?
    Last edited by True Knight; 04-09-2008 at 11:29 AM.

    CuChoinneach Deathslayer Knight of the Undying Court

  7. #47
    Community Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by True_Knight View Post
    K...revised again. I think I'm pretty close to final. I grabbed Improved Crit and used the starting stats above. I can't figure how to raise wis and not sacrifice in any other area. I can always grab a +wis item.

    Here's the latest build.... I spread out the levels of fighter to take advantage of getting Improved Crit when my BAB is at 8. Thus, I moved my 1st level of wiz to lvl 3. So the spread is 1Rog/2Ftr/3Wiz/4-7Rog/8Ftr/9and up...Rog.

    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 2.85
    DDO Character Planner Home Page
    
    Shandolari d'Phiarlan
    Level 16 Neutral Good Elf Female
    (2 Fighter \ 13 Rogue \ 1 Wizard) 
    Hit Points: 138
    Spell Points: 150 
    BAB: 11\11\16\21
    Fortitude: 8
    Reflex: 14
    Will: 5
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Stats          Modified Stats
    Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 16)
    Strength             10                    10
    Dexterity            18                    22
    Constitution         12                    12
    Intelligence         14                    14
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             12                    12
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
    Balance               7                    15
    Bluff                 1                     3
    Concentration         1                     1
    Diplomacy             1                     1
    Disable Device        6                    21
    Haggle                1                     1
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                  8                    28.5
    Intimidate            1                     1
    Jump                  4                    15
    Listen                3                    20
    Move Silently         8                    28.5
    Open Lock             8                    24
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                2                     2
    Search                5                    18
    Spot                  2                    14
    Swim                  0                     0
    Tumble                7                     9
    Use Magic Device      5                    20
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Shadow
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Elf Melee Damage I
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
    
    Level 2 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Finesse
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Rogue Hide I
    Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently I
    
    Level 3 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
    Spell (1): Feather Fall
    Spell (1): Hypnotism
    Spell (1): Mage Armor
    Spell (1): Ray of Enfeeblement
    Spell (1): Shield
    
    Level 4 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
    
    Level 5 (Rogue)
    
    Level 6 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
    Enhancement: Rogue Hide II
    Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently II
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark II
    
    Level 7 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Elf Melee Damage II
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking II
    
    Level 8 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Dragonmark of Shadow
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Way of the Assassin I
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking III
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Cripling Strike
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber IV
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking IV
    I am really interested in this build. The only thing I'm curious is the skill breakdown. At what lvls do what skills go up.

  8. #48
    Community Member Fleckislaupir's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    57

    Default

    This build is five years old; a lot's changed, and not just raising the level cap to 25. I'd redo it from scratch rather than try to use it as originally presented.
    The Once and Future unbongwah

  9. #49
    Community Member ~Furiyen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    10

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mops View Post
    I am really interested in this build. The only thing I'm curious is the skill breakdown. At what lvls do what skills go up.
    Gratz on the Necromancy Magic you have :P
    ~~ The Theorybuild Author ~~
    ~~ Links: ~ The Stormbringer v2 ~ The Whirling Dervish ~ The Angel of Death ~~

Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

This form's session has expired. You need to reload the page.

Reload