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    Hi I need help witha batman build that uses TWF and maxes Disable device as well as UMD and search I have drow available to me but no other 32 point builds please help me
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    Honestly, I prefer a halfling for this type of build, but since that's not available to you, I'll try something else. Are there any other requirements that you have outside of Two-Weapon Fighting and maxing those three skills?

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    The original batman build is an intimidate tank and thus wouldn't use Two Weapon Fighting. It also had rogue skills.

    Class wise they are usualy rogue 2 paladin 2(3) and the rest fighter. While they could do traps it was mroe of a side line talent than the main gig.

    But that leaves you wanting a TWF rogue. There are lots of those builds out there. Is there something more you want out of it? High AC, high saves?
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    I've started a Paladin/Rogue based upon one of Dworkin's Paladin Templates located in his older Basic Paladin Build Guide v1.2.
    Thread Link: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=126603

    Now, this isn't a TWF and it doesn't maximize UMD but I thought it might help.

    Scroll down to: Basic Human Evasion Paladin w/ Rogue Skills
    I went Drow as I'm returning to the game after being away and never achieved 1750 favor. He recommended 16/10/12/17/8/14(w/+1 Int Tome before level 2) but I used 14/10/12/18/10/14 as I've never found a Tome. (note: I used the Djinn cake to increase Str, not a Tome)

    I'm focusing on using shortswords/rapiers and running with a shield.

    I'm gettling close to 4 and have been having a lot of fun and doing well solo & duo's on hard and some elites. I haven't fully tweaked my build plan yet and will be testing some things but here is what I have planned up to level 16(EDIT: updated to 16 but I will be tweaking it so I can get Saves 3 and will likely change enhancements - also, may take more fighter levels past Paladin 11):

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    Valhaust DenGalen
    Level 16 Lawful Good Drow Male
    (1 Fighter \ 13 Paladin \ 2 Rogue) 
    Hit Points: 256
    Spell Points: 130 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 17
    Reflex: 14
    Will: 10
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Stats          Modified Stats
    Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 16)
    Strength             14                    19
    Dexterity            10                    12
    Constitution         12                    12
    Intelligence         18                    18
    Wisdom               10                    10
    Charisma             14                    17
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
    Balance               4                     5
    Bluff                 2                     3
    Concentration         1                     1
    Diplomacy             2                     3
    Disable Device        8                    29
    Haggle                6                     7
    Heal                  2                     2
    Hide                  3                     4
    Intimidate            6                     7
    Jump                  6                     8
    Listen                0                     2
    Move Silently         0                     1
    Open Lock             4                    18
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                4                     4
    Search                8                    25
    Spot                  4                     6
    Swim                  6                     8
    Tumble                1                     2
    Use Magic Device      6                    23
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Nimble Fingers
    Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
    
    Level 2 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage I
    Enhancement: Follower of Vulkoor
    
    Level 3 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Disable Device
    Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
    
    Level 4 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
    Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
    
    Level 5 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack I
    
    Level 6 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device
    
    Level 7 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
    
    Level 8 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
    Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II
    
    Level 9 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
    
    Level 10 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Vulkoor's Avatar
    
    Level 11 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Paladin Charisma III
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
    Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
    
    Level 13 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
    
    Level 14 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise
    Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV
    
    Level 15 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III
    
    Level 16 (Paladin)
    Last edited by Anthom; 02-28-2008 at 01:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theizeman View Post
    Hi I need help witha batman build that uses TWF and maxes Disable device as well as UMD and search I have drow available to me but no other 32 point builds please help me
    To be honest, if you have Drow open and your looking for the ability to have 2wf and rogue skills. Perhaps look into some type of Drow Rogue/Ranger build (1 rogue / 15 ranger). Gives you 2wf skills for free, with right stats can keep your disarm,open lock, search, spot and umd all maxed. Plus then the added bonus of having the ranger spells (barksking, resists, freedom of movement, etc).

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    Honestly not my favorit version but here's one

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    Bell 
    Level 16 Lawful Good Drow Female
    (3 Paladin \ 1 Rogue \ 12 Ranger) 
    Hit Points: 168
    Spell Points: 155 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 16
    Reflex: 20
    Will: 9
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Stats          Modified Stats
    Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 16)
    Strength             16                    22
    Dexterity            15                    20
    Constitution         11                    12
    Intelligence         15                    16
    Wisdom                9                    10
    Charisma             12                    14
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 16
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 16
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 16
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
    Balance               6                     9
    Bluff                 1                     2
    Concentration         0                     1
    Diplomacy             5                    17
    Disable Device        7                    23
    Haggle                1                     2
    Heal                 -1                     0
    Hide                  4                     7
    Intimidate            1                     2
    Jump                  7                    10
    Listen               -1                     2
    Move Silently         6                     9
    Open Lock             6                    16
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                3                     3
    Search                7                    31
    Spot                  3                    20
    Swim                  3                     6
    Tumble                4                     7
    Use Magic Device      5                    24
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    
    Level 2 (Paladin)
    
    Level 3 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Mobility
    
    Level 4 (Paladin)
    
    Level 5 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
    
    Level 6 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
    
    Level 7 (Ranger)
    
    Level 8 (Ranger)
    
    Level 9 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    
    Level 10 (Ranger)
    
    Level 11 (Ranger)
    
    Level 12 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device
    
    Level 13 (Ranger)
    
    Level 14 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    
    Level 15 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Search
    
    Level 16 (Ranger)
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost I
    Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost II
    Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost III
    Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack I
    Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack II
    Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage I
    Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage II
    Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Elven Perception I
    Enhancement: Elven Perception II
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
    Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
    Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
    Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
    Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
    Enhancement: Ranger Search I
    Enhancement: Ranger Search II
    Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I
    Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild II
    Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
    Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity III

    I think I perfer this one a little more... it gets Improved Evasion

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    Sabein 
    Level 16 True Neutral Drow Female
    (10 Rogue \ 6 Ranger) 
    Hit Points: 128
    Spell Points: 25 
    BAB: 13\13\18\23
    Fortitude: 8
    Reflex: 18
    Will: 5
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Stats          Modified Stats
    Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 16)
    Strength             14                    20
    Dexterity            17                    22
    Constitution         11                    11
    Intelligence         15                    16
    Wisdom               11                    11
    Charisma             11                    11
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 16
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
    Balance               7                    16
    Bluff                 4                    19
    Concentration         0                     0
    Diplomacy             4                    19
    Disable Device        7                    26
    Haggle                2                    17
    Heal                  0                     0
    Hide                  3                     6
    Intimidate            0                     0
    Jump                  6                    15
    Listen                0                     2
    Move Silently         3                     6
    Open Lock             7                    29
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                3                     5
    Search                7                    30
    Spot                  4                    23
    Swim                  2                     5
    Tumble                5                     8
    Use Magic Device      4                    19
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    
    Level 2 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
    
    Level 3 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Mobility
    
    Level 4 (Ranger)
    
    Level 5 (Rogue)
    
    Level 6 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
    
    Level 7 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    
    Level 8 (Ranger)
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
    Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost III
    Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack I
    Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack II
    Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage I
    Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage II
    Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Elven Perception I
    Enhancement: Elven Perception II
    Enhancement: Rogue Acid Trap Lore I
    Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
    Enhancement: Way of the Mechanic I
    Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
    Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device II
    Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
    Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock II
    Enhancement: Rogue Search I
    Enhancement: Rogue Search II
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III
    Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
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    Default build I'm doing

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    Level 16 Lawful Good Drow Female
    (2 Fighter \ 3 Paladin \ 11 Rogue) 
    Hit Points: 186
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 13\13\18\23
    Fortitude: 14
    Reflex: 19
    Will: 8
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Stats          Modified Stats
    Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 16)
    Strength              9                    12
    Dexterity            16                    26
    Constitution         13                    14
    Intelligence         17                    18
    Wisdom               11                    12
    Charisma             12                    12
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 8
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
    Balance               7                    18
    Bluff                 1                     1
    Concentration         2                     2
    Diplomacy             1                     1
    Disable Device        8                    26
    Haggle                5                    20
    Heal                  1                     1
    Hide                  3                     8
    Intimidate            5                    15
    Jump                  4                    16
    Listen                1                     3
    Move Silently         3                     8
    Open Lock             7                    29
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                4                     4
    Search                8                    31
    Spot                  5                    27
    Swim                  4                    20
    Tumble                7                    15
    Use Magic Device      5                    20
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    Level 2 (Paladin)
    
    Level 3 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    
    Level 4 (Paladin)
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Finesse
    
    Level 6 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    Level 7 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    Level 8 (Rogue)
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Defense
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Instead of oversized two weapon fighting you could substitute improved crit pierce or something else i just want to be able to dual wield rapiers, my builds need a few plus 1 tomes though... also if you don't have the second plus 2 tome (I actually have a plus 2 str tome that's why it's in there) you can put a lvl up point into strength and get the same result, the only reason I put the 2 strength tome in also was to open up the oversized two weapon fighting feat. if You don't need/want that, you don't need 12 strength.
    Last edited by Rei Half-elven; 03-01-2008 at 10:04 AM.

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