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    I was going to mention WF wizard/rogue/fighter. Levels all dependant on what youd want to cast. But it is a direction I will be going (or wiz/mon/fighter) for a twf spellswordish class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinaLeFleur View Post
    First off, I'm barely a premier account, with a few purchased low level quests. And I have all races/classes except Half Orc, Favored Soul, and no 32 point builds.

    I've been playing D&D PnP & computer games since 1984, and DDO off & on for a year and a half.

    I've tried several dozen combinations of races and classes, but haven't found a combination I like, even on the forums.

    As to the things I'd like in a build:
    1. Self-healing on the fly.
    --I really hate potions-never seem to have enough, or the money for them.
    --Wands are nice, but not during a battle.
    2. High DPS
    --Prefer two handed weapons. The Great Axe/Sword are my current favorites.
    3. High(ish) Hit Points
    --I've had problems with builds that had fewer than 80 hp at level 4.
    ---I sometimes lose track of hp during battles.
    4. Finding Hidden Doors!
    --To much content gets lost if you can't get past a hidden door, including shrines.
    5. Balance
    --Can't tell you how many builds I've made that suffered from low balance!
    6. Tumble
    --Can't tell you how much I love not having to use a feather fall item! (except in special cases)
    7. Soloability
    --Never have enough play time to find a party to do the quest I want to do

    Things that would be nice, but not to die for:
    1. Summoned help-for emergencies
    2. Find/disable traps.
    3. Unlock doors/chests.

    Notes:
    My almost level 7 Rogue wields a great axe, sneaks, finds-unlocks-disables things just fine, seldom gets knocked down, and rarely needs her feather fall clicky, but she goes through potions so fast she keeps me broke! (Her UMD only alows her to effectively use a Cure Light Wounds wand, but it takes forever to use.)

    I recently built a wizard/cleric who's wizard skills are limited to finding hidden doors, knock, feather fall, summon monster 2, etc, while the cleric side is wearing full plate, wielding a great sword, and heals. Down side? Only 65 hp at level 4, and not sure how long she'll last.

    I prefer the drow race, loved them since I first saw them in the "Eye of the Beholder" series, but any that works, and I have, is fine.

    If you have, or know of a build that fits my needs, fantastic, I haven't been able to find/recognize one on the forums.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Drow Paladin/fighter/rogue


    STR 14 (put all level-up points here)
    DEX 10
    CON 14
    INT 16
    WIS 10
    CHA 16

    The level split will be 15 Paladin/2 fighter/3 rogue

    The paladin enhancement line will be Hunter of the Dead

    Levels and Feats:

    1. Rogue (toughness)
    2. Paladin
    3. Paladin (Two handed fighting)
    4. Paladin
    5. Paladin
    6. Paladin (Power Attack)
    7. Paladin
    8. Paladin
    9. Fighter (Improved Critical: Slashing - Fighter bonus feat = Improved Two Handed Fighting)
    10. Rogue
    11. Paladin
    12. Paladin (Greater Two Handed Fighting)
    13. Paladin
    14. Paladin
    15. Paladin (Empower Healing Spell)
    16. Paladin
    17. Paladin
    18. Paladin (Weapon focus: Slashing)
    19. Fighter (Weapon specialisation: Slashing)
    20. Rogue


    Here is how it meets your criteria:

    1. 1. Self-healing on the fly. - This build can make use of lay on hands, and later, paladin healing spells in order to heal itself when in combat. Outside of combat it can use wands. The Hunter of the Dead enhancement line will give you healing amplification, which will make your self heals land for more.

    2. High DPS - You list the greataxe and greatsword as your favourites, this build would make best use of a Falchion as Paladins get a lot of their damage from using smite evil. If you don't want to use a falchion then the greatsword will still give you nice DPS.

    3. High(ish) Hitpoints - The Paladin and fighter levels will give you a lot of base hit points, as well as access to toughness enhancements that will be worth up to 60 hp (though you'll likely stop at Paladin Toughness III, 4 AP for 10 hp probably isn't worth it)

    4. Finding Hidden Doors - Rogue levels, high int, and racial bonuses will all make this easy. You'll also have the UMD to simply use a wand.

    5. Balance - is a rogue class skill, you don't need more than 15 and should be able to max this

    6. Tumbe - You can max it if you want but I'd do what everyone else does and just stick one point in it, you can't take much damage from falling but the benefit of feather fall is being able to land where you want to.

    7. Soloability - This build has evasion, high hp, self healing, and fantastic saves. It is an excellent solo character.

    As to your optionals, this build can do trap skills if you like - the high int and rogue levels should be enough for you to max search and disable. You can (and should) also max UMD on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobster5 View Post
    Drow Paladin/fighter/rogue


    STR 14 (put all level-up points here)
    DEX 10
    CON 14
    INT 16
    WIS 10
    CHA 16

    The level split will be 15 Paladin/2 fighter/3 rogue

    The paladin enhancement line will be Hunter of the Dead

    Levels and Feats:

    1. Rogue (toughness)
    2. Paladin
    3. Paladin (Two handed fighting)
    4. Paladin
    5. Paladin
    6. Paladin (Power Attack)
    7. Paladin
    8. Paladin
    9. Fighter (Improved Critical: Slashing - Fighter bonus feat = Improved Two Handed Fighting)
    10. Rogue
    11. Paladin
    12. Paladin (Greater Two Handed Fighting)
    13. Paladin
    14. Paladin
    15. Paladin (Empower Healing Spell)
    16. Paladin
    17. Paladin
    18. Paladin (Weapon focus: Slashing)
    19. Fighter (Weapon specialisation: Slashing)
    20. Rogue


    Here is how it meets your criteria:

    1. 1. Self-healing on the fly. - This build can make use of lay on hands, and later, paladin healing spells in order to heal itself when in combat. Outside of combat it can use wands. The Hunter of the Dead enhancement line will give you healing amplification, which will make your self heals land for more.

    2. High DPS - You list the greataxe and greatsword as your favourites, this build would make best use of a Falchion as Paladins get a lot of their damage from using smite evil. If you don't want to use a falchion then the greatsword will still give you nice DPS.

    3. High(ish) Hitpoints - The Paladin and fighter levels will give you a lot of base hit points, as well as access to toughness enhancements that will be worth up to 60 hp (though you'll likely stop at Paladin Toughness III, 4 AP for 10 hp probably isn't worth it)

    4. Finding Hidden Doors - Rogue levels, high int, and racial bonuses will all make this easy. You'll also have the UMD to simply use a wand.

    5. Balance - is a rogue class skill, you don't need more than 15 and should be able to max this

    6. Tumbe - You can max it if you want but I'd do what everyone else does and just stick one point in it, you can't take much damage from falling but the benefit of feather fall is being able to land where you want to.

    7. Soloability - This build has evasion, high hp, self healing, and fantastic saves. It is an excellent solo character.

    As to your optionals, this build can do trap skills if you like - the high int and rogue levels should be enough for you to max search and disable. You can (and should) also max UMD on it.
    I love it! Thanks!

    Edit:
    Found a minor error... Two attribute points short, so I dropped INT to 14 so that could get CHA to 16. (I figure the CHA is more important to the Paladin than the INT is.)
    If I'm wrong, let me know, and I'll reroll.
    Edit:
    Can't take Two Handed Fighting without STR=15 at level 3. So swapping Power Attack and THF.
    Last edited by TrinaLeFleur; 05-23-2011 at 04:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinaLeFleur View Post
    I love it! Thanks!

    Edit:
    Found a minor error... Two attribute points short, so I dropped INT to 14 so that could get CHA to 16. (I figure the CHA is more important to the Paladin than the INT is.)
    If I'm wrong, let me know, and I'll reroll.
    Edit:
    Can't take Two Handed Fighting without STR=15 at level 3. So swapping Power Attack and THF.
    Remember you can buy/find +2 tomes - min level to apply is 7. Many builds take the use of these as a given.
    Goe ahed... korekt mah spelin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meetch1972 View Post
    Remember you can buy/find +2 tomes - min level to apply is 7. Many builds take the use of these as a given.
    Quite true!
    However, Once I create a toon, and enter, I go to the airship where I can either choose to head to Korthos as a level 1, or level up to level 4 in a few seconds. (Kinda hard to grab a tome in between.)
    Leveling to level 4 in a few seconds has several advantages:
    1) All lower level content is still available, which aids in leveling further.
    2) I can determine in a few minutes, or an hour, at most, if the build is worth keeping. (Rather than grinding for days to find out I hate it.)
    3) Wasting any tome on a build you're not sure of, is a bad idea, IMHO. (Unless you know of a place that drops them on a regular basis.)
    -(similar to Freefall items. I've been playing DDO for a year and a half, and have never gotten any tomes, or a freefall item that didn't have charges.)
    -(and folks seem to think everyone is willing to pay 35ppk for a freefall item without charges. I've never had 20ppk at any one time!)

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    Default Second life wiz tr

    So i actualy have an idea but i want to compere it to what would i get from here. So idea is 34 build id say human pure wiz pale master with high int, necro and ench dc and high spell penetration and nice hit points and umd. A nice list of things but i think i got it done just what to get an other look before i tr. And question whats the use of insigthfull reflexes? lets say i could get my reflex to 30~35ish with all the gear. Will it help with no evasion?

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    Default my idea this far

    Level 20 True Neutral Human Female

    (20 Wizard)

    Hit Points: 242

    Spell Points: 1604

    BAB: 10\10\15\20

    Fortitude: 13

    Reflex: 5

    Will: 14



    Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement

    Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats

    (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)

    Strength 10 10 10

    Dexterity 8 8 8

    Constitution 16 18 18

    Intelligence 18 27 31 Able to get int to 42-44 easy with + 6 int +3 expt and +2 lich = 42

    Wisdom 8 8 8

    Charisma 14 16 16



    Tomes Used

    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7

    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7

    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7





    Starting Feat/Enhancement

    Base Skills Modified Skills

    Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)

    Balance -1 10

    Bluff 4 14

    Concentration 7 27

    Diplomacy 4 14

    Disable Device n/a n/a

    Haggle 4 14

    Heal -1 -1

    Hide -1 -1

    Intimidate 2 3

    Jump 2 11

    Listen -1 -1

    Move Silently -1 -1

    Open Lock n/a n/a

    Perform n/a n/a

    Repair 4 12

    Search 4 11

    Spot 1 10

    Swim 0 6

    Tumble n/a 0

    Use Magic Device 4 14



    Level 1

    Feat: Extend Spell

    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard

    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Necromancy

    Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness





    Level 3 (Wizard)

    Feat: Past Life: Arcane Initiate





    Level 5 (Wizard)

    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell





    Level 6 (Wizard)

    Feat: Spell Focus: Enchantment







    Level 9 (Wizard)

    Feat: Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy





    Level 10 (Wizard)

    FeatWizard Bonus) Empower Spell < where did that smiley come from?





    Level 12 (Wizard)

    Feat: Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment





    Level 15 (Wizard)

    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell

    Feat: Spell Penetration





    Level 18 (Wizard)

    Feat: Greater Spell Penetratio





    Level 20 (Wizard)

    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell



    Feats migth not be in order but close enough



    Enhancement: Wizard Master of Magic

    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Intelligence I

    Enhancement: Human Versatility I

    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I

    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II

    Enhancement: Glacial Spellcasting I

    Enhancement: Glacial Spellcasting II

    Enhancement: Glacial Spellcasting III

    Enhancement: Glacial Spellcasting IV

    Enhancement: Glacial Spellcasting V

    Enhancement: Glacial Spellcasting VI

    Enhancement: Combustive Spellcasting I

    Enhancement: Combustive Spellcasting II

    Enhancement: Combustive Spellcasting III

    Enhancement: Combustive Spellcasting IV

    Enhancement: Combustive Spellcasting V

    Enhancement: Combustive Spellcasting VI

    Enhancement: Deadly Ice I

    Enhancement: Deadly Ice II

    Enhancement: Deadly Ice III

    Enhancement: Deadly Ice IV

    Enhancement: Deadly Flame I

    Enhancement: Deadly Flame II

    Enhancement: Deadly Flame III

    Enhancement: Deadly Flame IV

    Enhancement: Deadly Flame V

    Enhancement: Deadly Flame VI

    Enhancement: Frost Manipulation I

    Enhancement: Frost Manipulation II

    Enhancement: Frost Manipulation III

    Enhancement: Frost Manipulation IV

    Enhancement: Frost Manipulation V

    Enhancement: Frost Manipulation VI

    Enhancement: Frost Manipulation VII

    Enhancement: Flame Manipulation I

    Enhancement: Flame Manipulation II

    Enhancement: Flame Manipulation III

    Enhancement: Flame Manipulation IV

    Enhancement: Flame Manipulation V

    Enhancement: Flame Manipulation VI

    Enhancement: Flame Manipulation VII

    Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration I

    Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration II

    Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I

    Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II

    Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar III

    Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I

    Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II

    Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence III

    Enhancement: Wizard Wand and Scroll Mastery I

    Enhancement: Shroud of the Lich

    Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master I

    Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master II

    Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master III

    Enhancement:Shroud of the Vampire

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinaLeFleur View Post
    Quite true!
    However, Once I create a toon, and enter, I go to the airship where I can either choose to head to Korthos as a level 1, or level up to level 4 in a few seconds. (Kinda hard to grab a tome in between.)
    Leveling to level 4 in a few seconds has several advantages:
    1) All lower level content is still available, which aids in leveling further.
    2) I can determine in a few minutes, or an hour, at most, if the build is worth keeping. (Rather than grinding for days to find out I hate it.)
    3) Wasting any tome on a build you're not sure of, is a bad idea, IMHO. (Unless you know of a place that drops them on a regular basis.)
    -(similar to Freefall items. I've been playing DDO for a year and a half, and have never gotten any tomes, or a freefall item that didn't have charges.)
    -(and folks seem to think everyone is willing to pay 35ppk for a freefall item without charges. I've never had 20ppk at any one time!)
    If you are on the Khyber server I'd happily send you a FF item...I always seem to have too many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandheart View Post
    If you are on the Khyber server I'd happily send you a FF item...I always seem to have too many.
    Thanks for the offer, but I'm on Sarlona.

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    Default new build request

    So, i'm still new to the game, but i already like a lot the skill aspect of it - speacialy umd and tumble xD. Also i was always a fan of debuffs and negative status and i like ir much more then doing demange....
    So, i would like to ask you guys if theres any build that focus on those aspects, or if it would be possible to make me one. I'm vip and i just bought the veteran status and 32pts builds.
    I have no preferenc in classes, but I preffer a melee character, thougt if you guys think a spellcaster would be better, its fine by me as well...

    Thanks for your attention - and sorry for my bad english...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koopaling View Post
    So, i'm still new to the game, but i already like a lot the skill aspect of it - speacialy umd and tumble xD. Also i was always a fan of debuffs and negative status and i like ir much more then doing demange....
    So, i would like to ask you guys if theres any build that focus on those aspects, or if it would be possible to make me one. I'm vip and i just bought the veteran status and 32pts builds.
    I have no preferenc in classes, but I preffer a melee character, thougt if you guys think a spellcaster would be better, its fine by me as well...

    Thanks for your attention - and sorry for my bad english...
    most of what you describe sounds like an acrobat rogue. lots of cool movement abilities, and you can use stat damage weapons instead of the more conventional stuff.

    Acrobats get a bonus to staves... but staves are terrible. This is what I recommend:
    You won't actually need the +1 tome until level 15, to qualify for Greater twf.
    Barbarian level is for the use of rage, and quick movement, which fits well.
    Ranger because you'll want to do something other than jump around during fights and tempest is best way to do that.


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    Level 20 True Neutral Human Female
    (1 Barbarian \ 13 Rogue \ 6 Ranger) 
    Hit Points: 250
    Spell Points: 70 
    BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
    Fortitude: 13
    Reflex: 18
    Will: 5
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    22
    Dexterity            16                    20
    Constitution         14                    14
    Intelligence         14                    14
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma              8                     8
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               3                    11
    Bluff                -1                    -1
    Concentration         2                     2
    Diplomacy             3                    22
    Disable Device        6                    29
    Haggle                3                    22
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                  7                    28
    Intimidate           -1                    -1
    Jump                  7                    15
    Listen               -1                    -1
    Move Silently         7                    28
    Open Lock             7                     9
    Perform              n/a                   n/a
    Repair                2                     2
    Search                6                    26
    Spot                  3                    23
    Swim                  3                     6
    Tumble                7                    34
    Use Magic Device      3                    22
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
    Skill: Disable Device (+4)
    Skill: Haggle (+4)
    Skill: Hide (+4)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Move Silently (+4)
    Skill: Open Lock (+4)
    Skill: Search (+4)
    Skill: Spot (+4)
    Skill: Tumble (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Dodge
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 2 (Ranger)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    
    
    Level 3 (Ranger)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Mobility
    
    
    Level 4 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Human Versatility I
    Enhancement: Human Versatility II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I
    
    
    Level 5 (Ranger)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
    Enhancement: Improved Search I
    Enhancement: Improved Spot I
    
    
    Level 6 (Ranger)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+2)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
    
    
    Level 7 (Ranger)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
    
    
    Level 8 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
    
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+3)
    Skill: Move Silently (+3)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Improved Balance I
    Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+3)
    Skill: Move Silently (+3)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Human Versatility III
    Enhancement: Rogue Wrack Construct I
    Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I
    
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+2)
    Skill: Move Silently (+2)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Tumble (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
    Enhancement: Improved Balance II
    Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
    
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Tumble (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
    
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Tumble (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat I
    
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Tumble (+3)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Rogue Wrack Construct II
    Enhancement: Improved Disable Device II
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+3)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Improved Disable Device III
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
    
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+3)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
    
    
    Level 17 (Rogue)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+3)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III
    
    
    Level 18 (Rogue)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+3)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
    
    
    Level 19 (Rogue)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+3)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat II
    Enhancement: Improved Disable Device IV
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+3)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist
    Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
    Last edited by zex95966; 05-26-2011 at 06:16 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zex95966 View Post
    most of what you describe sounds like an acrobat rogue. lots of cool movement abilities, and you can use stat damage weapons instead of the more conventional stuff.

    Acrobats get a bonus to staves... but staves are terrible. This is what I recommend:
    You won't actually need the +1 tome until level 15, to qualify for Greater twf.
    Barbarian level is for the use of rage, and quick movement, which fits well.
    Ranger because you'll want to do something other than jump around during fights and tempest is best way to do that.



    [/code]

    Staffs are not terrible.

    Suggest 13 rogue, 6 fighter, 1 monk.

    or 13 rogue, 6 monk, 1 fighter.



    This gives you feats, hp, and stances.


    good staffs. Nat Gann, Souleater, Witching hour. there are others.


    I suggest this thread for Koopaling.

    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...ight=big+stick

    And here is the staff list.

    http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...postcount=1470

    Sorry for posting other links on this thread, but in light of the other information, it was simpler.

    Good luck Koopaling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skunk View Post
    Staffs are not terrible.

    Suggest 13 rogue, 6 fighter, 1 monk.

    or 13 rogue, 6 monk, 1 fighter.



    This gives you feats, hp, and stances.


    good staffs. Nat Gann, Souleater, Witching hour. there are others.


    I suggest this thread for Koopaling.

    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...ight=big+stick

    And here is the staff list.

    http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...postcount=1470

    Sorry for posting other links on this thread, but in light of the other information, it was simpler.

    Good luck Koopaling.
    Thx a lot zex and skunk, thanx^^

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    Default Never Tanked

    i have a 32 point 1tr pally, self sufficent but not strong at any 1 thing i want to make his 2nd tr into a Update 9 friendly tank, any suggestiions?
    BTW i built ur 18/2 wiz/ro bot and indeed he is my most fun toon to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluwasabi View Post
    i have a 32 point 1tr pally, self sufficent but not strong at any 1 thing i want to make his 2nd tr into a Update 9 friendly tank, any suggestiions?
    BTW i built ur 18/2 wiz/ro bot and indeed he is my most fun toon to play.
    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.8.1
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    Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
    (2 Fighter \ 18 Paladin) 
    Hit Points: 312
    Spell Points: 232 
    BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
    Fortitude: 26
    Reflex: 18
    Will: 16
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    
    Str 16
    Dex 12
    Con 14
    Int 12
    Wis 8
    Cha 15
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 19
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               4                    14
    Bluff                 1                     5
    Concentration         6                    35
    Diplomacy             1                     5
    Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                1                     5
    Heal                  0                     2
    Hide                  2                     3
    Intimidate            5                    32
    Jump                  3                     7
    Listen                0                     1
    Move Silently         2                     3
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                1                     1
    Search                1                     1
    Spot                  0                     1
    Swim                  3                     7
    Tumble                n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device      3                    16
    
    Level 1 (Paladin)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Concentration (+4)
    Skill: Intimidate (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 2 (Fighter)
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Bastard Sword
    
    
    Level 3 (Paladin)
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 5 (Paladin)
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 6 (Paladin)
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Bash
    
    
    Level 7 (Paladin)
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 8 (Paladin)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 9 (Paladin)
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 10 (Paladin)
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 11 (Paladin)
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 12 (Paladin)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 13 (Paladin)
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 14 (Paladin)
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 15 (Paladin)
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
    
    
    Level 16 (Paladin)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 17 (Paladin)
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 18 (Paladin)
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 19 (Paladin)
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 20 (Paladin)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost I
    Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost II
    Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost III
    Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost IV
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Action Boost I
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Action Boost II
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
    Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I
    Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Strength I
    Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good IV
    Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good I
    Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good II
    Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good III
    Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
    Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II
    Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good III
    Enhancement: Paladin Divine Righteousness I
    Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys I
    Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys II
    Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys III
    Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I
    Enhancement: Improved Intimidate II
    Enhancement: Improved Intimidate III
    Enhancement: Improved Intimidate IV
    Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
    Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
    Enhancement: Paladin Charisma III
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
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    Here's a request for someone who wants to get REALLY creative, with a story to boot:

    All throughout my DDO experience, I've found myself remaking and remaking characters, never seeming to find a class I like. Caster after melee after healer after trapmonkey, you name it, I hated it so much. I then made a dragonmarked halfling wizard and found myself in hog heaven. Worried about it's viability, I started rolling other casters. WF Wizards, Drow Savants. I hated all those characters.

    It wasn't until recently that I realized it wasn't the class or the playstyle that was the issue: I'm good at just about everything in this game. No, that wasn't it at all. It was the race. I am a horrible racist against anything in this game that is not a halfling. I love them so much. I don't know why, I just can't stand NOT playing as one. Especially with a high jump score.

    What does this have to do with a request? Well, here goes:

    I want the ultimate halfling build. Makes use of every possible thing a halfling has to offer, including the healing dragonmarks. Use as many awesome enhancements as you can- use the dex bonus as much as you can, go crazy with it. I want a character to fit the race of halfling and all it's self-healing and short gimpy goodness.

    Does this character have to be good? Of course it does. Does it have to be viable? You bet. Does it have to be short? Hell yeah.

    Preferences:
    -Very high jump score. Dead serious. Love jumping. Halflings seem to jump higher than anything else, do you know why? Because they have giant... toes. Screw anything else, a high jump is where it's at.
    -Spells. Any of them. I need a blue bar beneath the red one.

    Restrictions:
    -I do not have monk. But if this build ABSOLUTELY REQUIRES IT, I will probably buy it anyway.
    -HAS to be self-sufficient. Not that hard to accomplish with the dragonmarks. I love to not have to depend on a cleric to heal me in the middle of battle.

    Have fun, creative builders.

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    Default Repeater build

    Hi, I'm still pretty new to the game so been trying out things. Builds are so hard to make. >.<

    Trying to get a F2P, 28pt repeater build which maximizes it's dps. I don't really want to nuke and be invincible. Just have fun and repeater seems to be the way to go for me. By the way, I have drow unlocked.

    Been thinking about 6rog/14ftgr or 10rog/10ftgr for mechanic and bonus feats. The latter one would also get improved evasion.

    Not sure about the level progression either and any tips on enhancements would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TehBeWop View Post
    Here's a request for someone who wants to get REALLY creative, with a story to boot:

    All throughout my DDO experience, I've found myself remaking and remaking characters, never seeming to find a class I like. Caster after melee after healer after trapmonkey, you name it, I hated it so much. I then made a dragonmarked halfling wizard and found myself in hog heaven. Worried about it's viability, I started rolling other casters. WF Wizards, Drow Savants. I hated all those characters.

    It wasn't until recently that I realized it wasn't the class or the playstyle that was the issue: I'm good at just about everything in this game. No, that wasn't it at all. It was the race. I am a horrible racist against anything in this game that is not a halfling. I love them so much. I don't know why, I just can't stand NOT playing as one. Especially with a high jump score.

    What does this have to do with a request? Well, here goes:

    I want the ultimate halfling build. Makes use of every possible thing a halfling has to offer, including the healing dragonmarks. Use as many awesome enhancements as you can- use the dex bonus as much as you can, go crazy with it. I want a character to fit the race of halfling and all it's self-healing and short gimpy goodness.

    Does this character have to be good? Of course it does. Does it have to be viable? You bet. Does it have to be short? Hell yeah.

    Preferences:
    -Very high jump score. Dead serious. Love jumping. Halflings seem to jump higher than anything else, do you know why? Because they have giant... toes. Screw anything else, a high jump is where it's at.
    -Spells. Any of them. I need a blue bar beneath the red one.

    Restrictions:
    -I do not have monk. But if this build ABSOLUTELY REQUIRES IT, I will probably buy it anyway.
    -HAS to be self-sufficient. Not that hard to accomplish with the dragonmarks. I love to not have to depend on a cleric to heal me in the middle of battle.

    Have fun, creative builders.
    here you go. With this spec, you have damage, you have trap skills, you have self healing from Ranger, Dragonmarks, and UMD. You have spells from Wiz and ranger, Expeditious retreat, and Rams might are the 2 spells you want. You have almost maxed dex. You have max jump. I gave you favored Enemy Giant for Halfling flavor, and Lawful outsider for need at high level.

    Your major damage is going to come from Sneak attacks with your 2 weapons. Most likely short swords or other light finesse weapons. You have PA to offset some of your str shortage. You can switch to bow/many shot and then charge in to attack with 2 weapons, back out and shoot again when many shot is off timer. If your close you get your backstab on the many shot shots also. You have halfling guile, and cunning for better attack and damage. You don't have any of the PREs, as they don't help this build much. You could go assassin or mechanic, but your int is low for insta kills in epics. I could change this to lower the str, and raise the int on this build to make assassin or mechanic more viable.

    you will need to get a shroud hp item, and superior false life item.

    Code:
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    Level 20 Chaotic Good Halfling Male
    (13 Rogue \ 6 Ranger \ 1 Wizard) 
    Hit Points: 252
    Spell Points: 155 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 13
    Reflex: 23
    Will: 8
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             14                    14
    Dexterity            18                    29
    Constitution         16                    16
    Intelligence         10                    10
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma              8                     8
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
    Balance               8                 19                   19
    Bluff                -1                 -1                    3
    Concentration         3                  3                    3
    Diplomacy            -1                 -1                   -1
    Disable Device        4                 23                   23
    Haggle               -1                 -1                   -1
    Heal                 -1                 -1                    1
    Hide                  4                  9                   13
    Intimidate           -1                 -1                   -1
    Jump                  6                 24                   26
    Listen               -1                 -1                    1
    Move Silently         7                 19                   21
    Open Lock             8                 32                   32
    Perform              n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                0                  0                    0
    Search                4                 23                   23
    Spot                  3                 22                   22
    Swim                  2                  2                    2
    Tumble                5                 10                   10
    Use Magic Device      3                 22                   22
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Skill: Disable Device (+4)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Move Silently (+3)
    Skill: Open Lock (+4)
    Skill: Search (+4)
    Skill: Spot (+4)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing
    
    
    Level 2 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 3 (Wizard)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 4 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Lawful Outsider
    
    
    Level 5 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Search (+2)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    
    
    Level 6 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+2)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
    
    
    Level 7 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 8 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
    
    
    Level 9 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Healing
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Balance (+3)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Dragonmark of Healing
    
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+3)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+3)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+3)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+3)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 17 (Rogue)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+3)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
    
    
    Level 18 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 19 (Rogue)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+3)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+2)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost IV
    Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use I
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use II
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use III
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use IV
    Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning III
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning IV
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile I
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile II
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile III
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile IV
    Enhancement: Halfling Hero's Companion I
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III
    Last edited by skunk; 05-29-2011 at 11:51 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skunk View Post
    here you go. With this spec, you have damage, you have trap skills, you have self healing from Ranger, Dragonmarks, and UMD. You have spells from Wiz and ranger, Expeditious retreat, and Rams might are the 2 spells you want. You have almost maxed dex. You have max jump. I gave you favored Enemy Giant for Halfling flavor, and Lawful outsider for need at high level.

    Your major damage is going to come from Sneak attacks with your 2 weapons. Most likely short swords or other light finesse weapons. You have PA to offset some of your str shortage. You can switch to bow/many shot and then charge in to attack with 2 weapons, back out and shoot again when many shot is off timer. If your close you get your backstab on the many shot shots also. You have halfling guile, and cunning for better attack and damage. You don't have any of the PREs, as they don't help this build much. You could go assassin or mechanic, but your int is low for insta kills in epics. I could change this to lower the str, and raise the int on this build to make assassin or mechanic more viable.

    you will need to get a shroud hp item, and superior false life item.

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    Level 20 Chaotic Good Halfling Male
    (13 Rogue \ 6 Ranger \ 1 Wizard) 
    Hit Points: 252
    Spell Points: 155 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 13
    Reflex: 23
    Will: 8
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             14                    14
    Dexterity            18                    29
    Constitution         16                    16
    Intelligence         10                    10
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma              8                     8
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
    Balance               8                 19                   19
    Bluff                -1                 -1                    3
    Concentration         3                  3                    3
    Diplomacy            -1                 -1                   -1
    Disable Device        4                 23                   23
    Haggle               -1                 -1                   -1
    Heal                 -1                 -1                    1
    Hide                  4                  9                   13
    Intimidate           -1                 -1                   -1
    Jump                  6                 24                   26
    Listen               -1                 -1                    1
    Move Silently         7                 19                   21
    Open Lock             8                 32                   32
    Perform              n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                0                  0                    0
    Search                4                 23                   23
    Spot                  3                 22                   22
    Swim                  2                  2                    2
    Tumble                5                 10                   10
    Use Magic Device      3                 22                   22
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Skill: Disable Device (+4)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Move Silently (+3)
    Skill: Open Lock (+4)
    Skill: Search (+4)
    Skill: Spot (+4)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing
    
    
    Level 2 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 3 (Wizard)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 4 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Lawful Outsider
    
    
    Level 5 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Search (+2)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    
    
    Level 6 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+2)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
    
    
    Level 7 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 8 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
    
    
    Level 9 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Healing
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Balance (+3)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Dragonmark of Healing
    
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+3)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+3)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+3)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+3)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 17 (Rogue)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+3)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
    
    
    Level 18 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 19 (Rogue)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+3)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+2)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost IV
    Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use I
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use II
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use III
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use IV
    Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning III
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning IV
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile I
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile II
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile III
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile IV
    Enhancement: Halfling Hero's Companion I
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III
    Taking wiz 1 is totally unnecessary for just extend, if you were going to use the wiz bonus for anything, it'd be for maximizing your dragonmark heals.... Also, this build seems to have considerably low damage. Taking 6 ranger for just the spells is unwise, but this doesn't provide enough feats for tempest anyway...

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    Smile looking for a build

    looking for a monk pally cleric build i have a couple ideas on hand but i want some adivde as builds as well. i have done sum tinkering with multiclassing and have come across some good stuff and bad stuff (pros - cons) i would also like some insight on weither i should do monk or go rogue for traps/haste boost for IAS. im in no way new or oblivious to building just stretching my horizon for new ideas. my end goal will be 34PT build high AC melee healer. no need to post gear. just stats/levles of class/ and what order to create. apprecieate the help

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