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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironforge Clan View Post
    Hmmm maybe I'll spec my new Halfling Cleric for triage. If you don't mind PM me with a list of your Feats, Enhancements, and primary healing gear. It would be most appreciated!!!
    Hmm I bet he is using empower. Which I do not have.

    I am specced for healing as well and can only hit for 275 or so per heal with max enhancements and superior devotion 6 items, no crits. I am curious as well how he is hitting that high a number. I just worked out the math and it does not seem possible even with a full enhancement line and superior devotion/potencey 6 item.

    If he is not using empower I would really like to know how he is doing it so I can up my game.
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    Here's my Mo:

    Heal - 336/840 crit ((the 381 must have been on someone with human recovery and I just didn't notice- sorry about that))

    Str: 14 -10 base +4 item
    Dex: 12 - 9 base +3 item
    Con: 13 - 10 base +3 item
    Int: 18 - 12 base +6 item
    Wis: 30 - 20 base +2 tome +2 feat +6 item
    Char: 17 - 14 base +2 tome +1 item

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    Feats:
    Empower Healing
    Enlarge
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    Extra Turning (12 dvs)
    Improved Mental toughness
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    AP's
    Human Wis 1
    Improved Empower Heal 3
    Concentration 1
    Prayer of Life 2
    Prayer of Critical Life 2
    Wand & Scroll Mastery 3
    Cleric Smiting 1
    Cleric Life Magic 4
    Energy of the Zealot 4
    Cleric Wisdom 1
    Divine Vitality 2
    Extra Turning 2
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    1295 sp / 186 hp

    Items I am wearing: Dragon Helm + 6 wisdom and the Gauntlets of Eternity from Stormreaver which is devotion 6 and sup. healing lore. I need to get a potency item still which should increase the amount I heal also.


    She's not an uber build - some things I probably could change around, but I am just too lazy to bother.
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    lizzy do you need a +4 con item or a +5 dex item? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weedo View Post
    lizzy do you need a +4 con item or a +5 dex item? lol
    LOL! What? Are you making fun of my +3 dex ring that I've been wearing since lvl 9 and my kundarak warding bracers? :P

    I have an uber 41 ac unbuffed too LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by malnon View Post
    Hmm I bet he is using empower. Which I do not have.

    I am specced for healing as well and can only hit for 275 or so per heal with max enhancements and superior devotion 6 items, no crits. I am curious as well how he is hitting that high a number. I just worked out the math and it does not seem possible even with a full enhancement line and superior devotion/potencey 6 item.

    If he is not using empower I would really like to know how he is doing it so I can up my game.
    My heal hits for 1,097 on a crit, farly regularly. I sent you a PM with explanations, if anyone else is interested, I'll start a new thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizzybrat View Post
    LOL! What? Are you making fun of my +3 dex ring that I've been wearing since lvl 9 and my kundarak warding bracers? :P

    I have an uber 41 ac unbuffed too LOL!
    hax i say! HAX!

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    Lizzy pointed this thread out to me, so thought I'd chip in my 2 cents.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lizzybrat View Post
    BAH! What's with barb hate lately??? (and not the good kind of hate)
    My main is a cleric - barbs are NOT hard to heal. At lvl 14 my heal does almost 400 pts - over 800 on a crit. It is no harder to heal a barb than anyone else. As a matter of opinion, they are easier because I can let their health bar go down a lot further before having to throw a heal at them which leaves me time to heal the other squishies.

    I also run 2 barbs - sheesh! The whole point is to kill the mobs faster than they can dish out damage.

    Once again - can't heal stupid.

    Barbs are an odd class. They can't solo for ****, they really need a team to shine. In that respect they're similar to rogues. But, even worse, what makes a great 14th level barbarian doesn't always make a good 8th level barbarian.

    I have to agree with Lizzy, if your cleric carries the Empower Healing feat, Barbarians are one of the best classes to have in a party.

    There have been a couple threads on the cleric boards about empower healing feat and if it is worth it. And a couple threads on the main boards about the value of HP vs. AC. And, after all those threads, in general - a well built barbarian grouped with a good team is pure power. And, short of an endgame intimitank (60+ AC) I would take a barbarian over just about every other melee class.



    Quote Originally Posted by Ironforge Clan View Post
    Well Said!!!!

    I'll have to compare notes with you on Healing for 400 hit points. Damn that seems high, but then again I'm spec'd as a battle cleric.
    If you're caying Empower Healing feat you should be doing a Heal for the mid 300's and crits in the low 800's, depending on your gear.



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    Primary Stats:
    STR: 16/Base+4/Item = 20 (Need a +6 and a tome)
    DEX = 9/Base+3/Item = 12
    CON = 9/Base+5/Item = 14
    INT = 8/Base+6/Item = 14
    WIS = 16/Base+3/Level+3/APs+2/Tome+6/Item = 30
    CHR = 14/Base

    Secondary Stats:
    HP: 200
    SP: 1201
    Saves: 11/9/16
    AC: 38 before buffs (Need the reaver shield)

    Feats:
    Empower Healing
    Mental Toughness
    Improved Mental Toughness
    Extend Spell (May swap out for Spell Pen)
    Improved Critical: Bludgeoning

    Enhancements:
    Cleric Wisdom II
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    Improved Empower Healing II
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryp View Post
    My heal hits for 1,097 on a crit, farly regularly. I sent you a PM with explanations, if anyone else is interested, I'll start a new thread.
    I was not to concerned about the crit healing. I was more curious about the base healing. The crit multipliers stack quickly with the enhancement line and then the crown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sojourner View Post
    Barbs are an odd class. They can't solo for ****, they really need a team to shine.
    Bah, lies and slander!

    I solo tons of stuff with Shin. The whole DQ prep (everything but the raid, though I'm getting closer and closer), usually end up waiting for people to join me in Pop runs after clearing all but the rooms, most of the Tor, Vons (had to find a +6 int item for 3), really pretty much anything that anyone else can solo a barb can, if you play them with a bit of thought (not common for barbs I know).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muirtach View Post
    Bah, lies and slander!

    I solo tons of stuff with Shin. The whole DQ prep (everything but the raid, though I'm getting closer and closer), usually end up waiting for people to join me in Pop runs after clearing all but the rooms, most of the Tor, Vons (had to find a +6 int item for 3), really pretty much anything that anyone else can solo a barb can, if you play them with a bit of thought (not common for barbs I know).
    The problem I have when soloing with my barb is one good hold spell and I'm hosed. My saves are just not so fabulous. I also don't care to solo on them because as my only characters that can't self-heal (ie: spells or wands) popping all those csw pots makes me cranky. (which is silly since money in this game just isn't a problem). Now as far as pure damage and being able to clear a room, with you on that. Just think there are better classes made to solo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizzybrat View Post
    The problem I have when soloing with my barb is one good hold spell and I'm hosed. My saves are just not so fabulous. I also don't care to solo on them because as my only characters that can't self-heal (ie: spells or wands) popping all those csw pots makes me cranky. (which is silly since money in this game just isn't a problem). Now as far as pure damage and being able to clear a room, with you on that. Just think there are better classes made to solo.
    Yeah Shin started with as much WIS as STR. It's funny to tell puggers that I can handle one whole side of the split in Von 5. I have a huge potion dependency. So bad that I use them instead of wands on most of my characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muirtach View Post
    Yeah Shin started with as much WIS as STR. It's funny to tell puggers that I can handle one whole side of the split in Von 5. I have a huge potion dependency. So bad that I use them instead of wands on most of my characters.
    Hello, my name is Moiyra and I am addicted to my heal spells.

    Guess thats what I get for playing 2 clerics and a bard. Pots?? Pots?? You mean I have to buy something? Sheesh!
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    Well I've certainly met a few more people who take PvP way too seriously, but after getting banned for 3 days I don't reply to them, I just smile to myself about it and keep on killin 'em
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muirtach View Post
    Yeah Shin started with as much WIS as STR. It's funny to tell puggers that I can handle one whole side of the split in Von 5. I have a huge potion dependency. So bad that I use them instead of wands on most of my characters.
    Hey Shin, there might be some confusion now, I saw a lowbie named Shinbad rofl
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    Here's my question Lizzy, how is her AC in the 40's (you did say 40's right or am I hallucinating again? LOL) I guess it would help if erda wore a dex/str item and didn't dual wield dev. and sup potency 7 items LOL... Although the concept of AC has always eluded me anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizzybrat View Post
    The problem I have when soloing with my barb is one good hold spell and I'm hosed. My saves are just not so fabulous. I also don't care to solo on them because as my only characters that can't self-heal (ie: spells or wands) popping all those csw pots makes me cranky. (which is silly since money in this game just isn't a problem). Now as far as pure damage and being able to clear a room, with you on that. Just think there are better classes made to solo.
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