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    Once again, thanks. That is indeed very...

    Once again, thanks. That is indeed very helpful. And thanks for sticking through the side-rants.
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    Why are are you even posting? Move along, back...

    Why are are you even posting? Move along, back to greymoon with you.
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    Rather, 10 pages later, people still can't wrap...

    Rather, 10 pages later, people still can't wrap their minds around a barb that is less offense and more defense.
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    The rant was a tangent. Got distracted. Alot...

    The rant was a tangent. Got distracted. Alot of people calling me stupid, etc.

    Can you use unbreakable stance while raged? Or combat expertise?

    Furthermore, the char I want as a DR barb...
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    You would definitely have to end rage. ...

    You would definitely have to end rage.

    However. That might fit with fury made placid, now that I think about it.
    (Fury of the Wild enhancement, not limited to barb, and seems good for monks...
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    At what point did i say they should have DPS AND...

    At what point did i say they should have DPS AND PRR?

    I've clarified this multiple times. I do not think that.

    I think it should be a option for them to have high PRR.

    Obviously, they...
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    Hm. Seems evasion only works with light or no...

    Hm.
    Seems evasion only works with light or no armor too.
    So, basically, in order to have evasion, a barb has to give up any chance at PRR.

    Furthermore, it only takes 2 levels of barb to get...
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    It doesn't work for lightning bolts, but yes,...

    It doesn't work for lightning bolts, but yes, barbs get the uncanny trap bonus.
    I do know that a 27 reflex fails crucible elite.
    So the question is, what is the reflex you need to have for evasion...
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    As per Shade. He knows alot more than I do. He...

    As per Shade.
    He knows alot more than I do.
    He says they are weak defensively.
    And a huge point we agree on, it fits the flavor.
    Please actually read the threads if you're gonna flame it.
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    Maybe a test would be in better order for this....

    Maybe a test would be in better order for this.
    I'd suggest running 10 runs epic lord of baldes on all three difficulties, for a few different character types tanking the LOB.
    1 barb, 1 fighter, 1...
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    Come to think of it, I don't think I have either.

    Come to think of it, I don't think I have either.
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    Why the elitest attitude? This is a game. These...

    Why the elitest attitude?
    This is a game. These are forums for a game.
    If you want to lord your supposed almighty game mastery over someone, find somewhere else to do it.
    Yes, you had...
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    Alright, I am wrong on that one thing. In...

    Alright, I am wrong on that one thing.
    In playing since 2006, I had never seen a single barb rogue do epic traps.
    I guess it is possible.

    But it seems very rare.
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    oh, i see where you're coming from on it. I was...

    oh, i see where you're coming from on it.
    I was thinking linear, where barb would put 0 points in either.

    Ye, that would work, and only be a few points behind pure rogue.

    But I still don't...
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    Ye, stalker ring is pretty easy to get. Plus it...

    Ye, stalker ring is pretty easy to get. Plus it adds manslayer, Very useful.
    I think you need T2 for ghostly?
    that takes all epic mats. Epic challenges are a bit harder, especially finding a...
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    You and every other troll should keep those...

    You and every other troll should keep those ignorant flames to yourself.
    You got something constructive, great.
    Keep the rest to yourself.
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    I've read somewhere. don't remember where. that...

    I've read somewhere. don't remember where. that palis can hit 500% heal amp.
    Geared and everything.
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    SO you have to be human barb, giving up horc...

    SO you have to be human barb, giving up horc power attack?

    I suppose it's not a bad way to spend your extra barb skill points, jump is only so useful.
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    Make a new list. DR barbs don't work. At...

    Make a new list.

    DR barbs don't work. At least, not right now.

    Furthermore, the way hp is now, listing it as a bonus is pointless.

    everyone seems to be running 600 to 800 at least.

    With...
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    You won't hit epic traps with 9 disable. You...

    You won't hit epic traps with 9 disable.
    You won't hit reflex with splashed rogue and barb main class, negating evasion.
    You won't hit the needed UMD with 9 base UMD.

    Well, not with a barb as...
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    High AC+ high PRR makes you even harder to hurt....

    High AC+ high PRR makes you even harder to hurt.
    Never said automatically.
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    You're getting me excited to see a OS ^.^

    You're getting me excited to see a OS ^.^
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    What happens when the fight lasts more than 30...

    What happens when the fight lasts more than 30 secs?

    And you're giving up barb capstone?

    And multiclassing rogue on a barb.... you might have 12 int....

    so that's 9 skills points.

    So...
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    That oes sound like a good suggestion, but...

    That oes sound like a good suggestion, but that's definitely not tanking, that's all the "oh ****"
    What kind of cooldowns we talking?
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    If something is wrong, point it out. Don't just...

    If something is wrong, point it out.
    Don't just say it's wrong and assume it's obvious.

    When I see one of those classes join a lfm, that's what I expect.

    It it possible to break out of that...
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