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  1. Someone said druid is getting a pass soonTM. ...

    Someone said druid is getting a pass soonTM. Likely this build will not remain in it's current form.

    It seems it would be better to have some other melee builds to compare to.

    Someone said...
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    Well, monks should be critting for about 32k on...

    Well, monks should be critting for about 32k on that same mob.

    News Flash: If you have a max built toon, your Vistani is now garbage, and in the same pass in which they introduced it.
  3. Thanks! For those oblivious to the forums, I...

    Thanks!

    For those oblivious to the forums, I am not playing DDO. It is not installed on my computer, and I have zero plans to return if they don't fix stealth.

    So I can't test something in 10...
  4. I am using this thread for evidence based data. ...

    I am using this thread for evidence based data.

    You haven't shown wolfs are better than monks.

    If you don't wish to contribute, there are other threads.
  5. Thanks! Those screenshots show us how values...

    Thanks! Those screenshots show us how values closer to 30-40k can be achieved.



    Since 90%+ of time in DDO is spent fighting trash mobs, I feel that helpless DPS is also important. The...
  6. You can post a wolf video if you want to prove...

    You can post a wolf video if you want to prove monk is not top tier.

    We will have a monk video soon for comparison.



    We do have a video of a LH shroud portal going down in 8 seconds, if...
  7. You forgot helpless multiplier, and we are...

    You forgot helpless multiplier, and we are missing quite a bit of damage (weapon effects, clicky attacks, other boosts).

    Based on your info, I would expect over 50k dps in a real game test.
  8. If someone has a real wolf build they want to...

    If someone has a real wolf build they want to compare (with screenshot), I would be happy to do that. You can see from Symbiot's posts and my replies what kind of data I need.


    For our...
  9. Just thought I would update that with 326 MP,...

    Just thought I would update that with 326 MP, 20.75W, and the +120 to damage scaled by 1.5 (THW), my results matched up with Symbiots screenshots almost exactly. There doesn't seem to be any magic...
  10. You keep talking to people not in a conversation....

    You keep talking to people not in a conversation. I never once said they should nerf monk.

    I argued with BigErky that my rogue could situationally (not everywhere, of course) keep up with...
  11. I have always agreed that nerfs have never...

    I have always agreed that nerfs have never created balance in DDO. It is difficult for you to understand, because you equate nerfs have never caused balance to there can never be nerfs.

    Here...
  12. Not nerfing and game balance are not the same...

    Not nerfing and game balance are not the same thing. I gave you the buffing example.





    We get it, this broken record has been played 1000 times.
  13. That's why you should spend your time asking for...

    That's why you should spend your time asking for design goals, instead of ranting against nerfs.

    You hate nerfs because they invalidate builds.

    New things that are out of balance do the same...
  14. The damage increase was pointed out to you in...

    The damage increase was pointed out to you in this thread.

    Monks have the attack speed of a twf build (or better), and are multiplying the +6 by many weapons dice (over 20). This thread only...
  15. They randomly added damage to each weapon,...

    They randomly added damage to each weapon, without any design goal.

    I'm not sure what you think you are explaining to me by trying to explain that the changes fit into their weapon formula.
    ...
  16. They have little design process. You can explain...

    They have little design process. You can explain things, like a skill based DC instakill ability will cause balance issues as the game progresses, but they simply don't understand how to design a...
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    I didn't compare a monk vs axe for a tree. If and...

    I didn't compare a monk vs axe for a tree. If and when we attack trees in DDO, that would be a relevant topic - and only against trees.



    The outcry should be for devs to use design parameters,...
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    Getting everyone to approximately the same...

    Getting everyone to approximately the same ability/utility, when considering all class strengths and weaknesses would be a fantastic design goal.

    If you read the forums, there are forumites who...
  19. Thanks! I think your base damage of +120 is...

    Thanks!

    I think your base damage of +120 is larger than what I had. I'm pretty sure I can iron out the differences and get closer to your values.

    We can conclude that +20W and 1500 base...
  20. When I was trying to guess a reasonable build...

    When I was trying to guess a reasonable build through wiki, I found several sources of +W that don't properly appear on the UI. Improved PA is one of them, but there were also a few others.
    ...
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  22. Going back to Symbiot's screenshots... Monk...

    Going back to Symbiot's screenshots...

    Monk Weapon Dice

    20 monk
    3.5


    Duality
    7.5
  23. I am publicly asking they put you on time out,...

    I am publicly asking they put you on time out, instead of asking for infraction points. They can add me and Arkat as well.

    That would let people have a conversation over the weekend.

    I won't...
  24. I'll be back Monday with a list of all weapons,...

    I'll be back Monday with a list of all weapons, pre-post damage.

    That is if the attempts to hijack the thread don't get it closed.

    I hope everybody has a good weekend!
  25. The real issue will never be resolved to your...

    The real issue will never be resolved to your satisfaction.

    That doesn't prevent individual changes from being good or bad, or a mix of the two.


    Some of us would like to see a better game,...
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