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    Quite a different beast in theory, but the...

    Quite a different beast in theory, but the soundburst angle is interesting.
    I was going for +crit, IPS and consistent bow DPS rather than your helpless blast effect.
    Very cool tho.
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    Monkcher Revisited

    I've been looking at Monkchers of old. They seem very back loaded and missing some very useful bits.
    So i have been thinking about a similar thing that is useful for almost the whole levelling...
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    yup and thats the main feature, 2 rogue levels...

    yup and thats the main feature, 2 rogue levels and 18 fighter rather than listed above.



    Yup fair call.
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    I have read this over and over and pondered it...

    I have read this over and over and pondered it much.
    I played around with the numbers and ended up theory crafting a 18 fighter 2 rogue with very similar abilities.
    rogue gives evasion removing the...
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    Theorycrafting to improve on the above. Summon...

    Theorycrafting to improve on the above. Summon Bolts would have to be a scroll or wand (Fire Arrow). No Rune Arms. Trapping and Evasion through Rogue classes. After level 10 you could pick any...
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    Ok so i have played this through to about level...

    Ok so i have played this through to about level 15, learnt a lot, changed a bit, really happy with things now.

    Key points :
    - no KTA. I just keep forgetting to click it and never use it, so its...
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    Thanks for confirming that :) EDIT : Still...

    Thanks for confirming that :)

    EDIT : Still needs KTA added too, and maybe more CHA

    I need to get Strategic Combat as fast as i can first, then Strike with No Thought, then Reconstructed...
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    Bah i didnt pick up on that :( Thanks for saving...

    Bah i didnt pick up on that :(
    Thanks for saving me 3 feats.
    Does the monk fire stance crit bonus work with kensai crit bonus would have been a better question?



    Yup im on that one, didnt get...
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    Well Im nearing my third ranger life (pure 20...

    Well Im nearing my third ranger life (pure 20 stimptoms-ish) and loving it, as well as getting a better feel for ranged damage.
    Having read all the advice here and applying it there i really get the...
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    This is going to come across incredibly bloody...

    This is going to come across incredibly bloody minded, but I'm just trying to explore your thought process.
    Is it all really just racing to (str/dex/int) to hit and damage, then adding as many crit...
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    And that is probably the crux of the discussion. ...

    And that is probably the crux of the discussion. Static bonuses or crit range/multiplier bonuses. I guess that is what my question ultimately is.



    Gotcha



    I guess its designed so you...
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    All very valid and worth considering. (+20...

    All very valid and worth considering. (+20 ranged power and +1 crit range) vs (+5 attack and damage, good DR bypass and +6 Ranged Power).



    Light repeater for the gnome bonuses to damage, a big...
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    Generic Class Build

    Lets say that you really don't get class X, but you want to get to level 20 and TR just to get completionist. Or your doing it a third time to get the extra (?) and want something different.

    I...
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    I guess what i mean is that when i TR as a melee...

    I guess what i mean is that when i TR as a melee (for arguements sakes) I have a Min II greensteel great axe and cleave and great cleave and i can wade thru 15 mobs on elite quite easily solo
    I just...
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    Well i must say that i am finding the knife...

    Well i must say that i am finding the knife thrower fairly hard work so far getting to 10.
    A fair bit of my enhancements are in non-VKF to be fair.
    But like most ranged its fairly back loaded and...
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    I had no idea. I still have no idea. I cant...

    I had no idea. I still have no idea.
    I cant imagine why it would be different to every other throwing knife.
    I will take a look into it.

    EDIT : still seems bugged and useless. Im glad you told...
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    Well i decided to try my hand at farming a decent...

    Well i decided to try my hand at farming a decent Eveningstar Challenge throwing knife : http://ddowiki.com/page/Eveningstar_Challenge_Pack
    4 random knives, all garbage. Not keen to do that again....
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    My initial thoughts are that 80 points could be...

    My initial thoughts are that 80 points could be spread between Assassin and Vistani alone, not leaving much for halfling or acrobat.

    Of course racial TR points would go halfling, and movement...
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    Awesome, thanks! How do you find the melee VKF...

    Awesome, thanks!
    How do you find the melee VKF so far?

    This is what i have come up with so far, not sure about mist stalker V, but it seems too good to skip :

    Tier 0 (6 AP)
    • Knife...
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    why ranger? fvs(divine might) i get. I love...

    why ranger?
    fvs(divine might) i get.

    I love the kensai extra action boost. That mixed with Melee/Range Power Boost, Double Shot Boost, and Haste boost is pretty useful.
    How many of the obscene...
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    I didn't pick up on centred only with melee...

    I didn't pick up on centred only with melee daggers, thanks for that.

    Other wise that's pretty much what i came up with too. A couple of rogue levels for traps sneak dice and evasion, the spare...
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    Vistani Knife Thrower

    Vistani Knife Thrower.

    I am trying to put it all together and work it all out.
    I got bored during Malbar and farmed the spectral throwing knife in levels 4,8,12,16,20. Sitting in the bank. ...
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    So how important is infinite PBS Compared to say...

    So how important is infinite PBS Compared to say 30m and VKF capstone?
    In practical terms, how far is 30m?
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    awesome, exactly what i needed to know

    awesome, exactly what i needed to know
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    Interesting, and thanks for the fast reply....

    Interesting, and thanks for the fast reply.
    Assassinate, shiv, poison strike, bleed them out, execute are clearly labelled melee only so i was ready for that. I can follow thru that no assassins...
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