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Aspenor
03-21-2007, 09:12 AM
Got in a PUG yesterday for SC elite, we were breezing through the quest, no problem. We got to Helos, and they all start running around the corner to range him. I was like CMON guys lets just charge him and kill him!! Helos is a PANSY!! They insisted "playing it safe" so I said fine, I'll just kill him myself. Forgot to maximize :o and got myself incapped. Ahhh well, it was fun :D

Why do people insist on using stupid glitches? Helos is a wimp. I'll be glad when the AI fix goes in and mobs won't let themselves get exploited like this. However, until then...I call for a server-wide NO HELOS EXPLOIT movement until mod 4.

Something about ranging him just makes me feel dirty, and cowardly.

Rameses
03-21-2007, 10:14 AM
Same thing I do to that chump Zared Mighty Hoof on Elite.

example... (sadly in a PuG)

Zared is that named mino in one of the caves of Gwylans that can be a holy terror if you try tanking him and since it would seem most players that play a caster will lay down a ton of Crowd Control (that Zared will walk right through) instead of just doing Direct Damage via spell.

Anyway my caster doesn't Crowd Control, I play him to take out key elements of a mob that will make a fight get out of hand (example: casters die first.)
So here I was Gwylans Stand on Elite with a PuG in cave with Zared Mighty Hoof. The main tank was calling for Crowd Control all over the place. I explained to him that I don't have crowd control but if it'd make him feel better I'd use a wand to give him Nuetralize Poison.
I told the tanks to get aggro and I promise that Zared Mighty Hoof would be dead at their feet before they swong their weapon once. The main tank grumbled that this was a party wipe and I played a gimp caster.
Lo and Behold.... the tanks get the aggro and Zared crumples to the floor right in front of the main right before he starts swinging his mighty sword.

Pen truly is mightier than the sword...

I am, Rameses!

and this had nothing to do with the OP :D

Aspenor
03-21-2007, 10:18 AM
:mad: You don't BUFF either I hear....what is Darkrage gonna do???

Allorious
03-21-2007, 10:25 AM
Poor rage...now remember, his cleric doesnt have DV's. So when he's on rage complaining about no buffs...tell him you dont buff ppl who dont have a cleric with DV's. :D

Reagarding Helos, I was in a PUG yesterday that headed around that dreadful corner to hide and shoot, but me being the nice quiet type you all know willed them (shamefully calling them assorted adjectives) into charging and killing helos on elite without anyone even losing half life.

Similarly, is there anyone that actually still kills the earth elle at the end of SC? It's sometimes difficult to explain to a PUG that the final fight requires only fighters aggro and MM. Never waste time on the elle.

Yvonne_Blacksword
03-21-2007, 10:31 AM
once i laid down 5 blade barriers and the wiz surrounded them with solid fog...
he was dead before he got to the ramp...
poor Helios!
tanks were furrious.
some one said it was a "thing of beauty"

Khestral
03-21-2007, 10:32 AM
Of course I range him... when I play a caster I stand at the back of the beatdown group and cast stuff at him...

Rameses
03-21-2007, 11:08 AM
Aspenor, I am sure I will buff if it absolutely is needed, but come on. Which tank really needs a blur on normal or hard content.
If someone asks for a haste, I'd be inclined to hand one out now that I have extend.

And I love Darkrage (dress wearing barbarians are the best) but if he's out of Rages I'd hook him up to keep him alive.

Then I can tell "I just saved your life, Rage"

I am, Rameses! and I support no buffing. hehe

Natalae
03-21-2007, 11:29 AM
Lesson learned here today?

Work as a party to complete task at hand, or dazzle all by the uberness of build and zerg.

Plenty of times PuGs do odd things but have never publicly shamed an anonymous grp. Well done :cool:

Khestral
03-21-2007, 11:32 AM
lesson learned here?

Work as a party to complete task at hand, or dazzle all by the uberness of build and zerg

Plenty of times PuGs do odd things but have never publicly shamed an anonymous grp. Well done :cool:

huh?:confused:

Natalae
03-21-2007, 11:34 AM
huh?:confused:

Exactly

Aspenor
03-21-2007, 11:35 AM
Aspenor, I am sure I will buff if it absolutely is needed, but come on. Which tank really needs a blur on normal or hard content.
If someone asks for a haste, I'd be inclined to hand one out now that I have extend.

And I love Darkrage (dress wearing barbarians are the best) but if he's out of Rages I'd hook him up to keep him alive.

Then I can tell "I just saved your life, Rage"

I am, Rameses! and I support no buffing. hehe

Oh you know I'm just giving you a hard time :p You play a freakin bard!

Aspenor
03-21-2007, 11:36 AM
Plenty of times PuGs do odd things but have never publicly shamed an anonymous grp. Well done :cool:

Hmmmmm....uhh...what does this mean?? :confused:

Allorious
03-21-2007, 11:41 AM
Plenty of times PuGs do odd things but have never publicly shamed an anonymous grp.


whatever

Rameses
03-21-2007, 11:41 AM
hmmmmm Aspenor we should start a guild named PuG

hehe

then we'll be publically decried at every event :D

I am, Rameses!

Aspenor
03-21-2007, 11:42 AM
whatever

I'm trying to figure out what it meant....who's been publicly shamed?? And how do you publicly shame somebody whom is anonymous???

I want to know how, it sounds like fun.

Nick_RC
03-21-2007, 11:43 AM
The Rage Doesnt Need Buffs And Never Dies!!!!!!!! Fools!!!!!

Allorious
03-21-2007, 11:43 AM
Well, if I'm not mistaken (which is rare indeed) I believe that was directed at me. :D For my previous post about shaming the group into charging Helos...to, apparently, Natalie's dissatisfaction...to which I respond WHATEVER. Meant as a dismissal of opinion, not a question

Nick_RC
03-21-2007, 11:45 AM
THE RAGE DOESNT NEED BUFFS!!!! AND HE NEVER DIES!!!!!!(unless im drunk and play leeroy styles) AND I NEVER RUN OUT OF RAGES [edit: EVERYONE!].

Rage for the win.

Rage

Aspenor
03-21-2007, 11:47 AM
Well, if I'm not mistaken (which is rare indeed) I believe that was directed at me. :D For my previous post about shaming the group into charging Helos...to, apparently, Natalie's dissatisfaction...to which I respond WHATEVER. Meant as a dismissal of opinion, not a question

Ohh....well I TRIED to shame my group into doing it, but they refused. Bunch of pansies I say....

Allorious
03-21-2007, 11:52 AM
Ohh....well I TRIED to shame my group into doing it, but they refused. Bunch of pansies I say....


...well, I left out that I ran in yelling lets get 'em..hehehe. I was using the +3 sceptor of Darkrage is invincable

Aspenor
03-21-2007, 11:53 AM
My real point is that I absolutely hate using stupid AI glitches and programming oversight as a method of play. Surrounding the djinn in WK and firewalling them?? LAME. Ranging Helos from a corner? LAME.

I think that by now there are enough players that have good builds that these things would be unnecessary.

Nick_RC
03-21-2007, 11:55 AM
Darkrage is invincible. Dress and all.

Rameses
03-21-2007, 12:02 PM
Darkrage is invincible. Dress and all.

You know... in our last Titan Raid... your dress blew up because of a wind trap... or something...
yea....

might want to see a doctor about that...


I am, Rameses! hehe

Allorious
03-21-2007, 12:04 PM
I think that by now there are enough players that have good builds that these things would be unnecessary


Agreed, although somehow Jang still needs 2 clerics...go figure :p

Nick_RC
03-21-2007, 12:04 PM
I fell asleep. That doesnt count. And if ur pansy ass dv rogue could hit something or even manage not to die shooting the freakin lasewr we would have been fine...and ya walked away with the gloves ya miser :D

Allorious
03-21-2007, 12:08 PM
Dark needs a smoke and a nap...getting a little cranky, eh? mate

Rameses
03-21-2007, 12:12 PM
Speaking of which.... two people that have posted in thread... fell asleep in that raid... :D

I mean really who does that :D

And don't forget I got the Bravo Sword to.

I am, Rameses!

akla_thornfist
03-21-2007, 01:46 PM
I remember when rage was just a little tyke running around stormreach in his little dress people laughing and calling him names, they still do but now its behind his back:D oh and on the op i never range helios he is a wuss

Aspenor
03-21-2007, 01:47 PM
I heard The Rage still wears diapers.

Khestral
03-21-2007, 01:57 PM
yeah, that's what we saw when his dress blew up in the Titan.

WAKE UP RAGE!

Ghoste
03-21-2007, 02:22 PM
I think the OP inadvertantly demonstrated why a lot of people are hesitant to take the named minos head on.

Having said that, I totally agree it is very doable with a party that works well together.

Aspenor
03-21-2007, 02:30 PM
I think the OP inadvertantly demonstrated why a lot of people are hesitant to take the named minos head on.

Having said that, I totally agree it is very doable with a party that works well together.


LoL well, i tried to do it ALONE on elite...with a level 6 sorc lvl 1 cleric....so I had my hands full. I think I woulda gotten him if I had remembered to maximize my spells before running in :o

It's way more than "doable" it's a total BREEZE. The guy is a total pushover.

Madmardigan
03-22-2007, 02:52 PM
it ****es me off when people use every little exploit in the game to kill mobs without ever getting hit. If i'm playing a fighter i wanna fight not jump up somewhere and hide.

shinmade
03-26-2007, 03:07 AM
You still do SC?

Khestral
03-26-2007, 09:35 AM
Sure, with each new character we make SC is one of the best for XP for how easy it is.

Madmardigan
03-26-2007, 02:11 PM
who doesnt do SC with level 4-6 chars?

Grimdiegn
07-30-2007, 06:55 PM
Just tell them to stand in the fire and his knockdown attack doesn't work. ;)



who doesnt do SC with level 4-6 chars?

I don't. *shrug*

Kistilan
07-30-2007, 08:44 PM
This Tinted Faces Thread is brought to you by the Letters "P" "U" and "G" Wiz.

Rameses
07-30-2007, 11:22 PM
This Tinted Faces Thread is brought to you by the Letters "P" "U" and "G" Wiz.

thats just funny cause this is a really old thread that was necro'd by a non-Tinted Face. You really bitter... I can feel the anger that wells... Anger... Fear... that is the way of the darkside... yes much anger in this one.

I am, Rameses!

Allorious
07-31-2007, 08:14 AM
I love people that dont read dates, dont you?

Aspenor
07-31-2007, 08:31 AM
Just tell them to stand in the fire and his knockdown attack doesn't work. ;)




I don't. *shrug*

Necro-ing 4 month-old threads, FTW. :D

Meh, I did it earlier to Nick in the marketplace.

Kistilan
07-31-2007, 11:31 AM
[quote=Rameses]Thats just funny cause this is a really old thread that was necro'd by a non-Tinted Face. You really bitter... I can feel the anger that wells... Anger... Fear... that is the way of the darkside... yes much anger in this one.[\quote]

That's why I had to throw in the announcement.

I am born to the "Dark" side. :p KJ Dark, aye thank-you.

I read it Allorious. Unless yer talk'n about the other guy that did the necro'n.

ebt-dnd
08-09-2007, 02:40 PM
Am I the only one remembering Helos one shotting level 5 fighters way back when? The reason people ranged him was because he'd go through the party and one shotting everyone to death. They've cut him down a lot since then, but he still does a goodly amount of damage. From time to time, I rather enjoy taking my lvl 14 in there just to kill Helos... Revenge is sweet... :)

bandyman1
08-09-2007, 02:57 PM
Am I the only one remembering Helos one shotting level 5 fighters way back when? The reason people ranged him was because he'd go through the party and one shotting everyone to death. They've cut him down a lot since then, but he still does a goodly amount of damage. From time to time, I rather enjoy taking my lvl 14 in there just to kill Helos... Revenge is sweet... :)

DOUBLE NECRO!!!!!:eek:

Jondallar
04-12-2008, 03:38 PM
Hit a wrong button and pulled up this beauty...made me laugh had to necro it cause its the oldest thread in Argo server and it is a classic

Hvymetal
04-12-2008, 05:17 PM
Hit a wrong button and pulled up this beauty...made me laugh had to necro it cause its the oldest thread in Argo server and it is a classic
:D and the triple necro wins it!!!!!!

MainFist
04-15-2008, 07:35 PM
hmmmmm Aspenor we should start a guild named PuG

hehe

then we'll be publically decried at every event :D

I am, Rameses!
I was in a guild named PUG in world of warcraft (hate that game):D

Kistilan
04-15-2008, 07:36 PM
And the dead shall rise once again to feast upon the horns of Helos...

Only on Argonnessen.

Grimdiegn
04-15-2008, 07:54 PM
There are dates on these? :D

Kistilan
04-15-2008, 09:57 PM
There are dates on these? :D

*grabs Grimdiegn's hand and pulls him along the way*

Come, let me show you the path, little man... You on yours and me on mine. The otter path (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epUk3T2Kfno) leads to the dead.... and the dead keep the otter path (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epUk3T2Kfno).

TommyBoy
04-16-2008, 07:52 AM
Last time I ran it was on my bard. I rushed in and layed down a Fasinate then proceded to make beef jerky out of him. I have done the pull him thing and range at that little bridge thing before, but it was way back in the day. I also saw the fire pit trick once. But yeah I prefer the straight fight.

Yaga_Nub
04-16-2008, 08:17 AM
I like necro'd threads like this. It shows that Asp was as big a n00b then as he is now. :)

TommyBoy
04-16-2008, 01:23 PM
I like necro'd threads like this. It shows that Asp was as big a n00b then as he is now. :)

QFT, but then again so is Yaga

Talon_Moonshadow
04-16-2008, 01:30 PM
Back in the day, there were all kinds of tricks used to take out Helos....all involved not being hit by him.

Now the devs have gotten rid of all those exploits......

And all the lvl 5's just run up and whack on him now.......haven't seen a party wipe on him yet. Guess he must've been more powerful when you could use an exploit to avoid him.