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JusJ4ck
10-13-2020, 04:06 PM
Hadn't seen a topic on the forums yet regarding this and will be creating a new Character over the weekend to play with my partner, who will be creating a shifter. (Altaholism is a thing guys)

Haven't tried anything on Lamania myself but scoured through some of the posts and can see most peoples comments on it being a CHA to hit/dam tree and not worh too much investment.

Just wondered if anyone has tried anything that mostly works, seen any cool synergy?

I was hoping to make a Rogue, possibly along the lines of a PNP Arcane Trickster. Thought about multiclassing in some Warlock or Sorcerer, Possibly Bard for obvious CHA reasons.

Thought I could start a thread for build ideas etc.

RavenStormclaw
10-13-2020, 11:38 PM
Hadn't seen a topic on the forums yet regarding this and will be creating a new Character over the weekend to play with my partner, who will be creating a shifter. (Altaholism is a thing guys)

Haven't tried anything on Lamania myself but scoured through some of the posts and can see most peoples comments on it being a CHA to hit/dam tree and not worh too much investment.

Just wondered if anyone has tried anything that mostly works, seen any cool synergy?

I was hoping to make a Rogue, possibly along the lines of a PNP Arcane Trickster. Thought about multiclassing in some Warlock or Sorcerer, Possibly Bard for obvious CHA reasons.

Thought I could start a thread for build ideas etc.

I have played around a bit with two versions of this. First is a 19 Bard/1 Fighter Swashbuckler. The second is a pure Enlightened Spirit Warlock. Some good synergy in the bard build I think.

SocratesBastardSon
10-14-2020, 03:24 PM
I have played around a bit with two versions of this. First is a 19 Bard/1 Fighter Swashbuckler. The second is a pure Enlightened Spirit Warlock. Some good synergy in the bard build I think.

You were not happy with ES-FI build? I haven't tried it, but it looked like it might help plug the weakness for pure ES builds with respect to melee.

droid327
10-14-2020, 03:35 PM
Here's a real far-out-there build :)

15 Wiz/3 Bard/2 FvS

CHA>CON>DEX

Throwing feats: PS/IPS at 21, RS, Prec, IC:R, STWE. Casting feats: Extend, Heighten, Quicken, SF/GSF: Ill (or Max/Emp/Quick/SF/GSF, I dunno what Shadowblades take). Other feats: FoP

Enhancements: 16 VKF (Fan of Knives), 13 Archmage (Spell Crit), 11 Swash (Dashing Scoundrel or Arcane Marauder), 11 AoV (Scourge, Smiting, Just Reward), 4 Warsoul (DM), 25 FI (Fan, Crit)

You're basically a Thrower bard, supplementing your steady CHA-based VKF/Swash damage with bursts of Force damage, from your Wizard spellbook and from Fan of Knives/Fan of Shadowblades as "ranged cleaves". Both scale on your Force spellpower and crit, and you'll have a whopping +20% Force crit from your enhancements. FoK also scales on your RP on top of that. Your SLAs will provide a steady stream of Temp SP so you can spam pretty freely.

You dont have any T5s, which is unorthodox, and it'll be REALLY slow going through Heroic because both Throwers are slow, and you split your AP so thin that you wont really hit your stride till 20, when you get all your enhancements plus Whirling Wrists...so it might be better suited for an Iconic :)

Also no PM, so your only self-heal in Heroic is CLW :D Or i guess you could flex up to 12 Wizard levels to FvS...you'd pick up cures/buffs and more HP but you'd lose bonus metamagics and Chain Missiles/Disintegrate/Horrid Wilting, which are all effectively Force damage spells.

droid327
10-14-2020, 03:47 PM
You were not happy with ES-FI build? I haven't tried it, but it looked like it might help plug the weakness for pure ES builds with respect to melee.

As awesome as the ES capstone is...I dont know if there's enough in ES+FI alone to warrant it.

Specifically, vs a /2 FvS splash - which gives you DM and CW SLA, which has awesome synergy with Feigned Health, especially on a CHA based Lock (especially if you take Emp/Max for your Burst, since CW also accepts them)

20% HP is huge but being able to spam your CHA score in Temp HP every 1s accounts for a lot of HP too. Full BAB and 10 MP is huge but 0.5x more stat to dmg is probably more DPS (especially if you just scroll Tensers for the BAB anyway).

FI with GOO (which gets PK) is obviously a nice pairing too

SocratesBastardSon
10-14-2020, 04:04 PM
Great point about the Close Wounds/Feigned Health synergy. But how does DM (Divine Might, I assume) synergize with FH?

droid327
10-14-2020, 04:52 PM
Great point about the Close Wounds/Feigned Health synergy. But how does DM (Divine Might, I assume) figure synergize with FH?

It doesnt, but if you're an ES melee sorc then you're going to want a trance and (unlike Harper or Falconry) there's not a CHA trance in the FI tree

RavenStormclaw
10-14-2020, 07:16 PM
You were not happy with ES-FI build? I haven't tried it, but it looked like it might help plug the weakness for pure ES builds with respect to melee.ut a

Oh no I think they are both good builds but I've only put about an hour each just to test the ideas. I think in the long run both will be strong.