Rull

04-06-2020, 05:55 PM

The alchemist Multivial spells do not deal damage as per the description (or the regular vial spell)

Desciption says these multivial spells deal 1d6+2 per level, max caster level 10. That is max 10d6+20 per projectile.

The Regular vial (level1) spells also deal 1d6+2 per level, max caster level 10. Also max 10d6+20.

Yet a multivial deals almost twice as much damage on even the first projectile.

My guess would be multivial is a MCL 20 spell after all, even if the description states MCL 10.

With 178 spellpower and maximize and empower, 0 points in any tree.

Regular Vial of Sparks: 312 damage (average over 20 tries disregarding crits)

Multivial of Sparks: 595 damage (average over 20 tries disregarding crits)

With +3 max caster level:

Regular Vial of Sparks: 400ish damage

Multivial of Sparks: 675ish damage

My first thought:

vial of sparks increases from 10d6+20 to 13d6+26.

and multivial increases from 20d6+40 to 23d6+46.

note: regular vial of sparks seems to deal just a bit more than that. Maybe the weighted dice (1d3+3 instead of 1d6?) and multivial not?

Or a different calculation altogether?

Can anyone confirm? Maybe test with a lvl10 alchemist and see what the numbers are there?

And with plus caster level (not max caster level)? (this shouldn't change but I hypothesize it does).

Desciption says these multivial spells deal 1d6+2 per level, max caster level 10. That is max 10d6+20 per projectile.

The Regular vial (level1) spells also deal 1d6+2 per level, max caster level 10. Also max 10d6+20.

Yet a multivial deals almost twice as much damage on even the first projectile.

My guess would be multivial is a MCL 20 spell after all, even if the description states MCL 10.

With 178 spellpower and maximize and empower, 0 points in any tree.

Regular Vial of Sparks: 312 damage (average over 20 tries disregarding crits)

Multivial of Sparks: 595 damage (average over 20 tries disregarding crits)

With +3 max caster level:

Regular Vial of Sparks: 400ish damage

Multivial of Sparks: 675ish damage

My first thought:

vial of sparks increases from 10d6+20 to 13d6+26.

and multivial increases from 20d6+40 to 23d6+46.

note: regular vial of sparks seems to deal just a bit more than that. Maybe the weighted dice (1d3+3 instead of 1d6?) and multivial not?

Or a different calculation altogether?

Can anyone confirm? Maybe test with a lvl10 alchemist and see what the numbers are there?

And with plus caster level (not max caster level)? (this shouldn't change but I hypothesize it does).