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Rush007
02-14-2018, 10:23 AM
Planning to TR and haven't done a sorcerer. Don't own dragonborn so thinking drow would be a solid choice for the CHA, darkfire and spell resistance which could help with horrid saves. Don't plan on taking any spell penetration instead relying on sonic blast (will), web (reflex), greater shout (fort) for soft CC with things with resistance. Force as secondary elemental with EK boosting force spell power and providing defense. Have a spiral, voice of the elementals which has a great effect that when you reequip it starts back at fire so going fire based. That's 50 exceptional fire spell power, 20% exceptional crit and 5 caster levels to fire. ED will bounce between Angel and Draconic. Possibility of medium armor and heavy shield for PRR/MRR and more defense vs reflex save spells with shield. Insightful reflex fixes reflex save as end gear setup has INT item which is easier to find then DEX.

End game mid reaper focus.

FEATS

7 normal
spell focus evocation
heighten
maximize
empower
quicken
spell penetration (insightful reflex)
greater spell penetration (extend)

4 epic
epic spell penetration (wellspring of power)
master of fire
ruin
greater ruin

3 destiny
spell power fire
hellball
arcane pulse

1 legendary
Scion of the plane of fire

TWISTS 27 Fate points

3 Empyrian Magic
3 Evocation Augmentation
2 Evocation Specialist
1 Coccoon or CHA depending on destiny

SPELLS

(4) 1: sonic blast, jump, magic missle, protection evil
(4) 2: glitterdust, hold person, knock, web
(4) 3: fireball, displacement, sleet storm, chain missle
(4) 4: solid fog, dimension door, fire shield, firewall
(4) 5: cyclonic blast, hold monster, prismatic ray, dismissal
(3) 6: greater heroism, disintegrate, undeath to death
(3) 7: delayed fireball blast, finger of death, mass hold person
(3) 8: sunburst, power word stun, greater shout
(3) 9: wail of banshee, mass hold monster, power word kill

CRIT %

29% item + 10% fire savant + 10% empyrian magic + 20% exceptional + 5% magic training = 74%

FIRE CRIT MOD

Scion of fire 25% + Greensteel item 30% = 55% + 25% Wellspring of Power temp buff

Enhancements (80 AP)

Fire Savant (41 AP) Fire Savant, Fire Affinity, Greater Fire Affinity, Immolation, Elemental Persistance, Elemental Apotheosis Burning Hands III, One with the Inferno III, Spell Critical, Conflagration III
Pierce Fire Resistance III, Spell Critical
Spell Critical, Charisma
Scorch III, Spell Critical, Charisma
Fireball III, Awaken Elemental Weakness
Eldritch Knight (Sorcerer) (27 AP) Eldritch Strike, Spellsword: Flame, Spellsword II: Shock, Spellsword III: Frost Improved Mage Armor III, Toughness III, Battlemage III
Improved Shield III, Light Armor Proficiency
Arcane Barrier III, Charisma
Medium Armor Proficiency, Charisma
Drow (12 AP) Spell Resistance, Charisma, Spell Resistance II, Charisma, Spell Resistance III Arcane Fluidity III
(none)
Darkfire

GEAR - Mist set and 3 piece slavelords

Armor: Stonescale Malice
Weapon: Spiral
Belt: Burnscar Sash
Offhand: Mistfallen *
Boots: Softsoled Slippers *
Cloak: Scarlet Scale Cloak *
Gloves: Dashing Gloves
Helm: Pano Circlet
Bracers: Slavelord INT with spell focus 6
Goggles: Greensteel Fire Critical
Necklace: Slavelord CON with resistance, quality con
Ring: Skulled Ring or Cursebane*
Ring: Spinneret
Trinket: Bell of Warding *

Missing:

fort - Elemental form gives 100%, aug another 100% should be good
insight spellsight - greensteel item over 10% crit mod, likely mod is better
dodge - spend reaper points to up dodge
spell resistance item - no room
ghostly - nvm covered on boots

PRR: 50 sheltering item + 20 capstone + 10 scion of fire + 10 shield sla + 30 medium armor + 20 mist set + random mythic, reaper gear bonuses and filigrees = 140+

MRR: 52 sheltering item + 10 scion of fire + 20 mist set + random mythic, reaper gear bonuses and filigrees = 82+ Warsword shield swap is handy here for another 29 MRR and other schools of magic aren't need as the scale cloak covers the insight evocation. Boss fights come to mind when all you do is blast.

unbongwah
02-14-2018, 10:58 AM
Do you have Favored Soul? Seems like sorc 18 / FvS 2 is still a no-brainer for a Fire savant. You lose two lvl 9 spells, but how much will you really use WoB and PWK? Plus it gets you medium armor & shield proficiencies free, so you don't have to put so many APs into EK, letting you invest in say Air or Earth Savant as a backup element.

Rush007
02-14-2018, 12:18 PM
Do you have Favored Soul? Seems like sorc 18 / FvS 2 is still a no-brainer for a Fire savant. You lose two lvl 9 spells, but how much will you really use WoB and PWK? Plus it gets you medium armor & shield proficiencies free, so you don't have to put so many APs into EK, letting you invest in say Air or Earth Savant as a backup element.

Pure vs 2 FVS splash

12 drow / 37 fire / 17 angel / 14 ek for arcane barrier

lose 2 max caster lvl from capstone
lose 20 prr
lose 100% fort
lose -2 DC, capstone CHA and EK CHA, which is bigger than it seems because I'm taking Scion of Fire, no dc bumps on legendary feat
20 fire spell power

17 points in Angel

gain 2% crit
gain 30 spell power when charged up scourge
temp sp's
action boost spell power
gain medium armor prof
better force spells and other spells
10% mana

Fireball example of lost casting levels, max levels and plain ones. Factoring 20 fire spell power vs 30 from scourge. 27 EK vs 17 angel is a wash in spell power.
1d3+3 points of fire damage per caster level up to a maximum damage of 20d3+60 at caster level 20

Capstone
22d3 + 66 * 1000% = 1320 * crit mod 2.55 = 3366

Fully charge scourge and spiral making up for lost 2 caster levels
20d3 + 60 * 1010% = 1212 * crit mod 2.55 = 3090

Non charged scourge but spiral making up for lost 2 caster levels
20d3 + 60 * 980% = 1176 * crit mod 2.55 = 2998

EDIT (Fire cores will bump up fire spells to 20 from the first two cores so this is non applicable)
No scrouge no spiral non arcane ED
18d3 + 54 * 980% = 1058 * crit mod 2.55 = 2697

Damage wise for fire capstone, defense capstone, mana fvs multiclass, off element fvs multiclass (force)

Lightning could be off element as ball lightning and chain lightning do not require an epic feat to fix but no enhance spell power from belt

Acid would have enhance spell power but acid burst would require a feat, otherwise black dragon bolt and cloud kill

Can't do cold

Otherwise keeping the 12 Drow and the 37 Fire Savant how would you do the FVS multiclass for Air or Acid?

unbongwah
02-14-2018, 02:41 PM
Otherwise keeping the 12 Drow and the 37 Fire Savant how would you do the FVS multiclass for Air or Acid?
That leaves 31 APs so you have few options:

11 AoV / 13 EK (Arcane Barrier) / 7 Air or Earth (two crit bonuses)
11 AoV / 21 Air or Earth (4 cores) - this req's an extra racial AP
11 AoV / 13 EK / 8 WP (Wall of Steel) for +10 PRR +5 Fire Spellpower


The build idea I was kicking around was half-elf sorc 18 / FvS 2 with warlock dilettante:

Air / Fire Savant with Storm DM
the fire damage from warlock feat scales with Spellpower. It's only d4 every 2 secs, but hey, free extra DPS is free. ;)
HE also gets Arcane Fluidity same as elves. Medium armor has 25% ASF: -15% from ML:20 sapphire of Spell Agility -10% from Arcane Fluidity.
AP config is something like 37 Air / 13 Fire / 12 racial / 11 AoV with 7 APs to tweak things. 4 extra racial APs gives you enough to put 24 into Fire Savant for Scorch SLA + 4th core.