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LargoKeyWest
04-30-2016, 02:35 AM
Wondering if there's a build that takes advantage of the 2 spells at 15 and the new Fighter updates...?

the_one_dwarfforged
04-30-2016, 03:42 PM
Wondering if there's a build that takes advantage of the 2 spells at 15 and the new Fighter updates...?

15 paladin for zeal, holy sword, exalted smite, divine sacrifice, divine grace, loh, dm.

5 fighter for one with the blade, weapon focus group line, a good death, weapon focus and specialization feats, haste boost.

theres definitely drawbacks to this build. most significantly you lose csw and no save stun on 20 against evil outsiders. you also lose a bit of scaling on smites and loh from less pally levels. theres also a loss of about half your light dmg on hit, and your undead dmg proc.

i think what you gain is more though. one with the blade is 5 more melee power than the kotc capstone and t5, plus you are getting 4 mp from weapon f/s feats, which also grant more to hit and base dmg, plus more to hit and base dmg from the weapon focus group enhancements. unfortunately you wouldnt be able to get up to weapon master because youd need 8 fighter for that (+3 to hit and dmg is apparently more powerful than keen edge or one with the blade which only require 5 fighter...lmao...). having haste boost from classes is nice, because it means you never have to spend ap in ld for it or twist it.

i think this build is only for thf/swf paladin and invalidates pure paladin.

adrian69
05-02-2016, 05:58 AM
Wondering if there's a build that takes advantage of the 2 spells at 15 and the new Fighter updates...?

Holy Sword and Kensei's new Keen Edge (+1 critical multiplier and range) are both comp bonuses, so they will no stack. The most you'd get from HS is +1 Enchantment. Also, the weapon focus lines still has the prereqs for it, so tier is out without 8 ftr. That's only +3 dmg with all attacks though.

One idea would be 14 pally/6 ftr and lose 9% double strike, but pick up the extra +1 critical in core 6. I've been relooking at 12 ftr x x builds as of late. 12 ftr 6 bard looks good. so does about every build with 6-12 fighter atm. 15 warlock 5 ftr (excluding spirit burst and blast, with ftr tier 5s) may be a thing too



http://ddowiki.com/page/Holy_Sword

http://ddoborguild.enjin.com/forum/m/32775624/viewthread/26801132-fighter-kensei-upcoming-changes-sd-tweaks/post/last

http://ddowiki.com/page/Kensei_enhancements

unbongwah
05-02-2016, 08:48 AM
One idea would be 14 pally/6 ftr and lose 9% double strike, but pick up the extra +1 critical in core 6.
AFAIK, Holy Sword and Kensei's +1 crit multiplier bonuses are / will be both competence, so they won't stack.

15 warlock 5 ftr (excluding spirit burst and blast, with ftr tier 5s) may be a thing too
Is this some sort of melee hybrid? :confused: Or does T5 Kensei add something to caster warlocks I'm overlooking?

adrian69
05-02-2016, 04:30 PM
AFAIK, Holy Sword and Kensei's +1 crit multiplier bonuses are / will be both competence, so they won't stack.

Is this some sort of melee hybrid? :confused: Or does T5 Kensei add something to caster warlocks I'm overlooking?

As far as I can have seen, and it may have changed, may change, but the core 3 crit multiplier claims it stays as long as it is part of your focus group. However, I pointed that the +1 crit range/multiplier in tier 5 and Holy Sword are both competence bonuses. I may have been to vague, apologies.

Yeah, melee hybrid, but just build it as you would build for a melee but lock w/ buffs, aura, and LoF or HtH if Charisma based PDK. I see GOO adding little other than knock from it's pack and, better chance to succeed against melees, but a melee with the added damage of aura, no matter how little, would be fun imo.