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Jsbeer
06-06-2015, 01:17 PM
NOTE:

The Steam store currently has a 75% off deal for the Shadowfell Complete edition which is (AFAIK) exactly the same as the one purchased through DDO except you can't get the Legendary upgrade or the discounted 11K TP deal. Also, as was pointed out later in this thread there is 75% off the Menace of the Underdark pack too which makes buying these two this a great introductory deal for newer players:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/213198/?snr=1_5_9__405

http://store.steampowered.com/app/213195/?snr=1_5_9__405

Note that the Shadowfell Conspiracy Collector's Edtion is the probably better choice for most people compared to the Standard Edition.


Anyone who buys through Steam might need this link which tells how to use the Steam code you get: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/417377-Using-your-expansion-code?






ORIGINAL(ish) POST:



I returned to DDO a couple of months ago and was thinking of purchasing the Shadowfell expansion.

Am I right in thinking that I get better value from the collector's edition if I buy it from the DDO Market:

http://store.turbine.com/store/turbine/en_US/list/categoryID.58516100/ThemeID.29252200

as opposed to through the DDO in-game store? It seems that the standard and collectors packs are (despite of what the description might imply on the Steam pages) exactly the same whether bought through the DDO Store or Steam except you can't get the Legendary upgrade or the discounted 11K TP deal if you purchase from Steam.


Two other related questions - if I plan primarily on playing only a couple of characters (on the TR/ITR/ETR grind trail) on a single server is the Legendary upgrade worth it? Also how often does the Shadowfell expansion tend to go on sale?

Vulkoorex
06-06-2015, 04:26 PM
I returned to DDO a couple of months ago and was thinking of purchasing the Shadowfell expansion.

Am I right in thinking that I get better value from the collector's edition if I buy it from the DDO Market:

http://store.turbine.com/store/turbine/en_US/list/categoryID.58516100/ThemeID.29252200

as opposed to through the DDO in-game store for TP or via Steam.


Two other related questions - if I plan primarily on playing only a couple of characters (on the TR/ITR/ETR grind trail) on a single server is the Legendary upgrade worth it? Also how often does the Shadowfell expansion tend to go on sale?


The cheapest I've seen it on sale on DDO Market Was during Black Friday / Cyber Monday sale. It was 50% off. The Legendary Upgrade never went on sale though.

AbyssalMage
06-06-2015, 07:11 PM
I returned to DDO a couple of months ago and was thinking of purchasing the Shadowfell expansion.

Am I right in thinking that I get better value from the collector's edition if I buy it from the DDO Market:

http://store.turbine.com/store/turbine/en_US/list/categoryID.58516100/ThemeID.29252200

as opposed to through the DDO in-game store for TP or via Steam.


Two other related questions - if I plan primarily on playing only a couple of characters (on the TR/ITR/ETR grind trail) on a single server is the Legendary upgrade worth it? Also how often does the Shadowfell expansion tend to go on sale?
Yes, Marketplace is better than DDO store. Not sure about Steam.
Legendary wasn't worth it to me, you will have to decide for yourself.
Black Friday/Cyber Monday is usually the only time it goes on sell (that I can recall)

Jsbeer
06-12-2015, 04:44 AM
I noticed that there was a sale on steam for 75% off the Shadowfell expansion.

But if I compare the wiki page here:

http://ddowiki.com/page/Shadowfell_Conspiracy

to the steam page here:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/213198/

it appears that the Steam version (which is currently much cheaper of the DDO Market standard or collectors edition) is actually only similar to what I would get to the STANDARD edition if I bought it from the DDO Market here:

http://store.turbine.com/store/turbine/en_US/list/categoryID.58516100/ThemeID.29252200

http://store.turbine.com/store/turbine/en_US/pd/ThemeID.29252200/productID.280984100/categoryID.58516100


So is this correct (and confusing) or am I just totally confused.

EllisDee37
06-12-2015, 05:34 AM
Yeah, looks like the steam collector's edition is really the DDO Market standard edition, but it's $17.50 cheaper. That makes it a worthwhile purchase.

The alternative is to wait for another Black Friday sale in November.



In any case, I view the Legendary Upgrade as not being worth it.

Liquid0xygen
06-12-2015, 06:21 AM
I noticed that there was a sale on steam for 75% off the Shadowfell expansion.

But if I compare the wiki page here:

http://ddowiki.com/page/Shadowfell_Conspiracy

to the steam page here:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/213198/

it appears that the Steam version (which is currently much cheaper of the DDO Market standard or collectors edition) is actually only similar to what I would get to the STANDARD edition if I bought it from the DDO Market here:

http://store.turbine.com/store/turbine/en_US/list/categoryID.58516100/ThemeID.29252200


http://store.turbine.com/store/turbine/en_US/pd/ThemeID.29252200/productID.280984100/categoryID.58516100


So is this correct (and confusing) or am I just totally confused.

I bought the steam's collector edition yesterday just as it went on sale. The info on the steam page is WRONG, you get the collectors edition that's the same as the one on the DDO store. Which means 3 iconic classes, 2000 TP, the adventure packs, 3 character slots and everything else that I can't remember right now.
The value of that pack is amazing at this price.

EllisDee37
06-12-2015, 07:20 AM
I bought the steam's collector edition yesterday just as it went on sale. The info on the steam page is WRONG, you get the collectors edition that's the same as the one on the DDO store. Which means 3 iconic classes, 2000 TP, the adventure packs, 3 character slots and everything else that I can't remember right now.
The value of that pack is amazing at this price.In that case, jump on this sale immediately.

Jsbeer
06-12-2015, 08:59 AM
I bought the steam's collector edition yesterday just as it went on sale. The info on the steam page is WRONG, you get the collectors edition that's the same as the one on the DDO store. Which means 3 iconic classes, 2000 TP, the adventure packs, 3 character slots and everything else that I can't remember right now.
The value of that pack is amazing at this price.

Okay thanks for the info. I just bought it now and it seems that you are right as I also got the same as the Shadowfell Collector's pack form the DDO store, namely;


Wheloon City Adventure Pack
The Stormhorns Adventure Pack
Purple Dragon Knight, Morninglord, and Shader-kai Iconic Heroes
3 Character Slots
Greater Tome of Epic Learning per server
2,000 Turbine Points
One +2 Skill Tome per character


So an amazing deal....

moomooprincess
06-12-2015, 11:09 AM
I bought the steam's collector edition yesterday just as it went on sale. The info on the steam page is WRONG, you get the collectors edition that's the same as the one on the DDO store. Which means 3 iconic classes, 2000 TP, the adventure packs, 3 character slots and everything else that I can't remember right now.
The value of that pack is amazing at this price.

IN that case, I think you also get the two owlbears(per character per server) and one +2 skill tome and two +3 skill tomes per character per server in perpetuity. I think you also get a cosmetic plain wizard hat, which I think is where that thing came from.

I paid FULL retail for it when it came out, $99 or something like that.

EDIT: I should have read the last post..... no owlbears? no +3 skill tomes? no floppy brown wizard cosmetic hat?

Jsbeer
06-12-2015, 11:33 AM
IN that case, I think you also get the two owlbears(per character per server) and one +2 skill tome and two +3 skill tomes per character per server in perpetuity. I think you also get a cosmetic plain wizard hat, which I think is where that thing came from.

I paid FULL retail for it when it came out, $99 or something like that.

EDIT: I should have read the last post..... no owlbears? no +3 skill tomes? no floppy brown wizard cosmetic hat?

I think you probably got the Legendary Upgrade to the Collectors edition, which costs $50 on top of the $50 RRP for the Collector's Edition and is only available via the DDO Market (i.e. not for TP or from Steam) and comes with the extra you listed.

The current deal is 75% off the Collectors edition which just gives the items listed above. If you have a lot of alts you play a fair bit than the Legendary upgrade is pretty good, but given the ETR/HTR/ITR grind I decided eventually not to get Legendary upgrade, since I can only focus on one, or at most two, characters. In this case the Steam deal is amazing - its a quarter of normal price and half of what the best previous price.

FestusHood
06-12-2015, 11:44 AM
Do you know off hand how long this sale lasts?

Jsbeer
06-12-2015, 11:52 AM
Do you know off hand how long this sale lasts?


The Steam Store homepage says the sale lasts until Sunday June 21 while the actual DDO page on steam says until 22 June:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/206480/

moomooprincess
06-12-2015, 01:33 PM
The Steam Store homepage says the sale lasts until Sunday June 21 while the actual DDO page on steam says until 22 June:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/206480/

Be careful, three of those on that page ARE NOT REFUNDABLE. Which means if you agree to buy it, it is now yours, no takebacks.

Still pretty good deals, except for the Catacombs one IMHO. Why? I don't think I have EVER played Catacombs after I have ran it on elite.

EllisDee37
06-12-2015, 04:52 PM
Quick note that 75% off Shadowfell is the perfect way to start up a dual-box opener account, if you think you might ever want to go that route.

My dual-box opener account is the best investment I've ever made in this game.

Jsbeer
06-12-2015, 05:17 PM
Quick note that 75% off Shadowfell is the perfect way to start up a dual-box opener account, if you think you might ever want to go that route.

My dual-box opener account is the best investment I've ever made in this game.


Actually I think that the MotU Collectors edition is an even better candidate for a F2P account as you get epic destinies and a LOT of packs that way.

Sadly the blurb for the Steam version: http://store.steampowered.com/app/213195/ suggests that that is only the standard version. However I think the MotU Collectors edition has been on sale for 75% from the DDO market (not the TP one which offers less).

Krelar
06-12-2015, 05:46 PM
Actually I think that the MotU Collectors edition is an even better candidate for a F2P account as you get epic destinies and a LOT of packs that way.

Sadly the blurb for the Steam version: http://store.steampowered.com/app/213195/ suggests that that is only the standard version. However I think the MotU Collectors edition has been on sale for 75% from the DDO market (not the TP one which offers less).

You can only buy the standard or base versions of MotU. The collector's edition was limited edition and hasn't been available for a long time.

EllisDee37
06-12-2015, 06:15 PM
Actually I think that the MotU [standard] edition is an even better candidate for a F2P account as you get epic destinies and a LOT of packs that way.Agreed. I thought only Shadowfell was on sale.

Jsbeer
06-12-2015, 06:44 PM
You can only buy the standard or base versions of MotU. The collector's edition was limited edition and hasn't been available for a long time.

Mnn, I didn't realise that as I bought the MotU Collector's Edition at launch. In that case its a much closer decision as the standard edition of MotU ($7.50 on Steam at 75% off http://store.steampowered.com/app/213195) gives:


3 Forgotten Realms Adventure Packs:
The King's Forest
The Underdark
The Demonweb

Epic Destinies

Druid Class

Eveningstar Challenge Pack

Greater Heroic Tome of Learning (1 free tome per DDO game world)

1,000 Turbine Points

Veteran Status (lvl 4)

DDO Classics Adventure Pack bundle:
Phiarlan Carnival
Attack on Stormreach
The Path of Inspiration
The Dreaming Dark


so IMO it is still the better deal just not so clearly. If you are leveling up to 28 you want epic destinies anyway so that compensates for having to buy the Greater Epic Tome of Learning you would have got from the Shadowfell pack. Of course if you are just starting out from a F2P account you could (perhaps should!) just get both packs at the incredible discount...

EllisDee37
06-13-2015, 02:57 AM
Updating in light of sale:

Quick note that 75% off MotU + Shadowfell for $20 is the perfect way to start up a dual-box opener account, if you think you might ever want to go that route. Both expansions, 4 packs, iconics, and 3000 TP. You don't get better value out of $20 than that.

This might be worth its own PSA thread. (EDIT: I started one here (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/461559-Steam-sale-75-off-DDO-expansions).)