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TitusOvid
05-27-2015, 03:41 PM
Dear Devs,
Dear players,
Dear lurkers,

the "new" bank management is now life for quite some time. There was some criticism on it in the beginning but no reaction or answers from the development team as far as I know.

Shared bank
The upside is, we got more space for bag items.
The downside (as I see it) is the new management style. There is no scrolling all the way to the end anymore, except in the TR cache but we have to go page by page now or use the search.
On many ways this is sadly ineffective.
The last item I put into my bank is on the last page. So I have click to the last page or know and type in the name.
For the general cache that might work but not for the collectable/ingredient cache. I don't remember each collectabel or ingredient by name so the search doesn't help me. I have to click each side to find what I want. If the side switching would be fast, I prolly wouldn't have a problem with it. But sadly it is not. It takes some time to get through 10+ pages.
And I have no overview, cause I can't really sort it. It would be nice to have the possibility to switch an item to a different spot/slot in the bank. (Some of us are anal that way).

How about managing the shared bank like your persona bank or your backpack only make it bigger.
That way I can sort items as I like and it is easier to find them. In addition I have a search option. And if you really make it big enough, there don't need to be 10+ pages. If you use the space you use now with the spot/slot system from the backpack it should work far better.

And as a closing word:
Please consider more character bank space. In the near future we will have 30 lvls of fine adventures to farm and collect items from. And a lot of them are btc and hard to get. I cried over my last TR, cause I had to get rid of some very nice shinies.

Thanks for reading.
Apologies for typos and bad wording.
Comments are welcome.

JOTMON
05-27-2015, 03:53 PM
Dear Devs,
Dear players,
Dear lurkers,

the "new" bank management is now life for quite some time. There was some criticism on it in the beginning but no reaction or answers from the development team as far as I know.

Shared bank
The upside is, we got more space for bag items.
The downside (as I see it) is the new management style. There is no scrolling all the way to the end anymore, except in the TR cache but we have to go page by page now or use the search.
On many ways this is sadly ineffective.
The last item I put into my bank is on the last page. So I have click to the last page or know and type in the name.
For the general cache that might work but not for the collectable/ingredient cache. I don't remember each collectabel or ingredient by name so the search doesn't help me. I have to click each side to find what I want. If the side switching would be fast, I prolly wouldn't have a problem with it. But sadly it is not. It takes some time to get through 10+ pages.
And I have no overview, cause I can't really sort it. It would be nice to have the possibility to switch an item to a different spot/slot in the bank. (Some of us are anal that way).

How about managing the shared bank like your persona bank or your backpack only make it bigger.
That way I can sort items as I like and it is easier to find them. In addition I have a search option. And if you really make it big enough, there don't need to be 10+ pages. If you use the space you use now with the spot/slot system from the backpack it should work far better.

And as a closing word:
Please consider more character bank space. In the near future we will have 30 lvls of fine adventures to farm and collect items from. And a lot of them are btc and hard to get. I cried over my last TR, cause I had to get rid of some very nice shinies.

Thanks for reading.
Apologies for typos and bad wording.
Comments are welcome.


One thing I found annoying with the new shared bank is that new additions go to the end of the last page.
I have to constantly flip pages to the end when moving things between toons.
Give me an option to flip the list.. newest additions go to the first page not the last page..

TR Cache has no sort search feature. please add..
Would love to be able to sort by level, name, type..

The cosmetics should all go into a shared inventory like the pet inventory.. I should be able to access all my cosmetics across all my toons and not have them take up an inventory slot.

Give us player housing.. with storage.. all DDO store.. win/win.. sell amenities and storage expansion options...
I have money , DDO has the ability to create more storage space..
want my money.. give me more storage space options that I can spend my money on...

cdbd3rd
05-27-2015, 04:30 PM
... I have to click each side to find what I want. If the side switching would be fast, I prolly wouldn't have a problem with it. But sadly it is not. It takes some time to get through 10+ pages.....

That. After a couple taps of the paging arrow, you get the "must wait before interacting with..." message.

Stacking Collectables/Ingreds/Gems to 1000 instead of the current 99 might help some of us.

UurlockYgmeov
05-27-2015, 05:19 PM
Stacking Collectables/Ingreds/Gems to 1000 instead of the current 99 might help some of us.
^^^ this. but 10,000 instead of 99.

cdbd3rd
05-27-2015, 05:20 PM
^^^ this. but 10,000 instead of 99.http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt291/cdbd3rd/cdemotes/yep.gif (http://s621.photobucket.com/user/cdbd3rd/media/cdemotes/yep.gif.html)

That would work, too. :)

UurlockYgmeov
05-27-2015, 05:42 PM
That would work, too. :) http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt291/cdbd3rd/cdemotes/yep.gif

PsychoBlonde
05-27-2015, 07:05 PM
The last item I put into my bank is on the last page. So I have click to the last page or know and type in the name.
For the general cache that might work but not for the collectable/ingredient cache. I don't remember each collectabel or ingredient by name so the search doesn't help me.

This reminds me of people who come to my friend's music store and ask for albums when they don't know the artist name, the album name, or the name of any songs ON the album . . . and then they complain when he can't help them.

Protip: when you want to craft something, stop first at the crafting apparatus and look up what you need. Write it down if necessary. THEN go search your bank for that stuff.

Except in the case of the shroud altars and the lord of blades crafting altars, there is almost always a bank quite close to the crafting altar.

The only real exception to this is the altar of epic rituals, which has no "recipes", but the parts of the item all have the same name! You're telling me that you have a Thornlord you want to upgrade but *can't figure out* how to search for the Shard of the Thornlord, the Seal of the Thornlord, and the Scroll of the Thornlord?!

I have had problems in the regular shared bank (not the ingredient bank) where certain items just wouldn't come up on search. I suspect whatever converts the name strings into searchable terms doesn't work 100% with all the weird potential names of items. But the bag bank has never yet failed to produce an item when I've searched for any term in the name or even just PART of the term.

TitusOvid
05-28-2015, 12:15 AM
What about collectables I want to trade in?
What about Seal/Shard/Scroll?
What about arrows?
What about ...

There are a lot of ingredients/collectables/mats you can't just look-up. It's a fail when I have to use the wiki before I can search my bank. And since the ways are long and the loading of the bank takes time it is annoying to run back and forth.

F2PPremiumLeech
05-28-2015, 03:59 AM
More storage space. For BTC and BTA items. Add an entire new server if need be to handle this. I don't even mind if it takes longer time to access.

I just want some space where to dump all the gear I don't need in current life.

I just want some large shared BTA bank where I can dump all the stuff I want to move between different characters.

I just want to be able to TR when I want and not spend hours on moving items between characters to be able to empty TR cache. Or putting them on shard AH for 9999. Or using the buy back feature the vendors have.

RD2play
05-28-2015, 06:22 AM
I see your changes and raise you a picture:

http://i.imgur.com/Fr2qUsQ.png

The Idea is that the "shared", "TR" and "deposit" are loaded when the player wants to not by default, which should reduce bank lag. Also making it one interface that incorporates the inventory tab makes it a closed system to better combat ehh... "Features".

All tabs should be a "list" like the shared bank, so there is less page hopping and so you can see the name of the item not just the icon. thus finding your stuff and comparing it becomes easier.

Also all tabs should have a Search function like the inventory "list" tab has now. And a way to sort by gear (like inventory), level or alphabetically.

Finally the "shared bank" tab should be inverted so the LAST thing you put in there will be there on the FIRST page when you open it, this to make gear swapping less click and lag intensive. This will also help with identifying stuff you never use since it will migrate to the last page over time.

Of course I am all for Moarr space and higher stacking of ingredients and collectables and stuff.

JOTMON
05-28-2015, 08:58 AM
This reminds me of people who come to my friend's music store and ask for albums when they don't know the artist name, the album name, or the name of any songs ON the album . . . and then they complain when he can't help them.

Protip: when you want to craft something, stop first at the crafting apparatus and look up what you need. Write it down if necessary. THEN go search your bank for that stuff.

Except in the case of the shroud altars and the lord of blades crafting altars, there is almost always a bank quite close to the crafting altar.

The only real exception to this is the altar of epic rituals, which has no "recipes", but the parts of the item all have the same name! You're telling me that you have a Thornlord you want to upgrade but *can't figure out* how to search for the Shard of the Thornlord, the Seal of the Thornlord, and the Scroll of the Thornlord?!

I have had problems in the regular shared bank (not the ingredient bank) where certain items just wouldn't come up on search. I suspect whatever converts the name strings into searchable terms doesn't work 100% with all the weird potential names of items. But the bag bank has never yet failed to produce an item when I've searched for any term in the name or even just PART of the term.

That's silly.. the music staff know all the music.. I go in and say you know that song.. nana nananana .. and the girl at the store says yeah that's blah blah .. here ya go.. oh and you should get this one too.. its great...





Protip: when you want to craft something, stop first at the crafting apparatus and look up what you need. Write it down if necessary. THEN go search your bank for that stuff.



I pool all my crating ingredients on my crafting toon, then when I need to craft something specific I go to that toon.
The bank isn't big enough to hold all the ingredients for all the toons.

TrinityTurtle
05-28-2015, 11:09 AM
I have had problems in the regular shared bank (not the ingredient bank) where certain items just wouldn't come up on search. I suspect whatever converts the name strings into searchable terms doesn't work 100% with all the weird potential names of items. But the bag bank has never yet failed to produce an item when I've searched for any term in the name or even just PART of the term.

Are you having this problem on things that you recently put in the shared bank, or that have been in there forever? I Know things that were placed into the banks before the change are not indexed into the bank and need to be removed, and placed back in. Since I took everything out, and put it all back in to be safe, I've not had anything not show up. I do not know if this will work for you or not, but it can't hurt to try it. :)

TitusOvid
05-28-2015, 03:57 PM
I see your changes and raise you a picture:

--- Picture ---

The Idea is that the "shared", "TR" and "deposit" are loaded when the player wants to not by default, which should reduce bank lag. Also making it one interface that incorporates the inventory tab makes it a closed system to better combat ehh... "Features".

All tabs should be a "list" like the shared bank, so there is less page hopping and so you can see the name of the item not just the icon. thus finding your stuff and comparing it becomes easier.

Also all tabs should have a Search function like the inventory "list" tab has now. And a way to sort by gear (like inventory), level or alphabetically.

Finally the "shared bank" tab should be inverted so the LAST thing you put in there will be there on the FIRST page when you open it, this to make gear swapping less click and lag intensive. This will also help with identifying stuff you never use since it will migrate to the last page over time.

Of course I am all for Moarr space and higher stacking of ingredients and collectables and stuff.


The idea with the optional load is not a bad one.

Names and description need a lot of space, thats why i came up with backpack display. But it can be annoying if you have to hover over the item to see which one it is. Hoywever I would sacrifice that convinience for a better overview. Most of the times the icons alone work for me, because I remember where I put things in my backpack.

RD2play
05-28-2015, 04:55 PM
The idea with the optional load is not a bad one.

Names and description need a lot of space, thats why i came up with backpack display. But it can be annoying if you have to hover over the item to see which one it is. Hoywever I would sacrifice that convinience for a better overview. Most of the times the icons alone work for me, because I remember where I put things in my backpack.

In the backpack yes but what about a char you haven't played in a while and want to dust off? or one of your any bank toons? I don't make it a point to remember all the gear over all my chars including TR caches banks and inventory. Basically I don't really know what exactly is on my alts till I play them again for a while or search them for gear for my main I know I have somewhere. So I love how things are listed in the shared bank and the TR cache since you can easily locate what you are looking for, so I would love to see the character bank and inventory to be the same while using the bank interface.

Imo the bank is not the only thing that could use an UI overhaul. but since this is a bank thread I chimed in with my idea I was working on. When using the bank I don't really care about what is going on around me I just want to access my stuff and less clicking, loading and moussing over would greatly improve the experience.

Another idea I had, that maybe could happen, if we have the one window bank UI is to make it accessible out of the game also. This way you could manage your stuff while in the train or during a quick break at work, so you can just play when you get to log instead of needing to char hop for some inventory clean up and stuff.

TitusOvid
06-02-2015, 06:59 AM
Yeah, some peeps suggested that for ingame mails too. But I don't want that actually. When I am gaming, I am gaming. When I am not, I am not. It should stay that way.

AlexIII
06-07-2015, 12:30 PM
Also, since I started playing dozens of new collectibles and ingredients have been added, often in quest packs. Bag space has remained the same. I paid for the quest pack; i shouldn't feel the need to buy a ddo store bag to store the stuff. Spell component pouch request again; why should casters be penalized in inventory space? Even a "automatically delete these items feature" would be good.

with the addition of all the new levels and TRing making saving items for when the level comes again, make another bank upgrade or three from sources other than turbine points please.

Bloodskittle
06-07-2015, 07:56 PM
I see your changes and raise you a picture:

http://i.imgur.com/Fr2qUsQ.png

The Idea is that the "shared", "TR" and "deposit" are loaded when the player wants to not by default, which should reduce bank lag. Also making it one interface that incorporates the inventory tab makes it a closed system to better combat ehh... "Features".

All tabs should be a "list" like the shared bank, so there is less page hopping and so you can see the name of the item not just the icon. thus finding your stuff and comparing it becomes easier.

Also all tabs should have a Search function like the inventory "list" tab has now. And a way to sort by gear (like inventory), level or alphabetically.

Finally the "shared bank" tab should be inverted so the LAST thing you put in there will be there on the FIRST page when you open it, this to make gear swapping less click and lag intensive. This will also help with identifying stuff you never use since it will migrate to the last page over time.

Of course I am all for Moarr space and higher stacking of ingredients and collectibles and stuff.

I agree with most of this to be honest, but the cosmetic bank should be a separate tab on the inventory screen like companions, they should also be universally accessible over all toons on that account on that server, I would spend a lot more on cosmetics if I felt like they were gonna get more use!