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schelsullivan
05-20-2015, 05:01 PM
Whats the purpose of "You Occasionally Find Small Animals In Your Backpack"? From my experience, this is more than completely useless, its detrimental! Ive worked hard to get my Move Silently and Hide to +70 so I can sneak about in epic elites. However when my ranger past life procs a bat or squirrel, they proceed to follow me squeaking loudly and thus giving my position away! IS THIS INTENDED TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO PAST LIFE RANGERS!>?

Ikeas
05-20-2015, 05:30 PM
+1 for the lolz.

UurlockYgmeov
05-20-2015, 05:43 PM
+1 but what about the toad or ferret?

Krelar
05-20-2015, 08:26 PM
You think that's bad? I went and got a barbarian past life. Now I have a raging headache from breaking all those boxes with my head! (At least I always get ransack bonus)

Saekee
05-20-2015, 09:32 PM
mine die of suffocation. no air in a portable hole. It can be a few weeks before i notice the dead bats but the squirrels put out a robust odor.

zeechet86
05-25-2015, 04:12 PM
Whats the purpose of "You Occasionally Find Small Animals In Your Backpack"? From my experience, this is more than completely useless, its detrimental! Ive worked hard to get my Move Silently and Hide to +70 so I can sneak about in epic elites. However when my ranger past life procs a bat or squirrel, they proceed to follow me squeaking loudly and thus giving my position away! IS THIS INTENDED TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO PAST LIFE RANGERS!>?

This was probably mean as a joke but lets answer it. If you getting procs bats, squirrel or any other small animals. They come from Colors of the Queen and Double Rainbow (http://ddowiki.com/page/Double_Rainbow).
Effect is called Friends of Nature : Summons a small fuzzy animal that wanders around nearby. Gives no buff, as opposed to ones summoned by the ED.

schelsullivan
06-02-2015, 10:50 PM
This was probably mean as a joke but lets answer it. If you getting procs bats, squirrel or any other small animals. They come from Colors of the Queen and Double Rainbow (http://ddowiki.com/page/Double_Rainbow).
Effect is called Friends of Nature : Summons a small fuzzy animal that wanders around nearby. Gives no buff, as opposed to ones summoned by the ED.

This is absolutely not a joke. Im not exactly clear on exactly where it procs from. Is it ranger past life or colors of the queen? I really want to know because: This effect causes sneak to fail and that is a serious problem for someone who solos a lot on epic elite and spent huge skill point resources on hide and move silently. It absolutely ruins the sneak effect as mob hear the noised that these useless animals make. It literally gets me killed while soloing or causes me to have just sit and wait for them to time out. My original post was most definitely not intended to be a joke. I consider this a serious game breaking bug for sneaky ranger tactics.

How should I proceed in order to get turbine support to chime in?

UurlockYgmeov
06-02-2015, 11:01 PM
it never happened to me UNTIL I had colours of the queen past life toggled on.

schelsullivan
06-02-2015, 11:06 PM
it never happened to me UNTIL I had colours of the queen past life toggled on.

Well I spent 3 epic reincarnations on colours in order to boost my dps, is this the price I must pay? Is this meant to be a working as intended detriment to sneak?

Saekee
06-03-2015, 06:33 AM
I have seen them appear around me, though rarely. Next time it happens I will check out how it affects stealth. Shouldn't it serve as a free distraction? Are other mobs able to kill them or are they invulnerable? Do they disappear if you summon something else?

macadope
06-03-2015, 09:01 AM
LOL Amazing that u thought they were coming from ranger PL. Really laughing out loud.

Eth
06-03-2015, 09:37 AM
You better don't get those favored soul past lives...

Steelstar
06-03-2015, 09:42 AM
The Ranger Past Life, to my knowledge, does not actually crate small animals into the world. This is almost certainly happening due to Colors of the Queen or Double Rainbow, which both (by design) can proc the summoning of small creatures. If you don't have either of those abilities turned on, and said animals are still appearing near you... well, we'd be interested in taking a look at your build to figure out what's going on. :)

Fedora1
06-03-2015, 09:57 AM
The Ranger Past Life, to my knowledge, does not actually crate small animals into the world. This is almost certainly happening due to Colors of the Queen or Double Rainbow, which both (by design) can proc the summoning of small creatures. If you don't have either of those abilities turned on, and said animals are still appearing near you... well, we'd be interested in taking a look at your build to figure out what's going on. :)

Well let's assume it IS from Colors or Rainbow. Is it intended that these critters break stealth?

Steelstar
06-03-2015, 09:59 AM
Well let's assume it IS from Colors or Rainbow. Is it intended that these critters break stealth?

Yes! Small wild animals suddenly summoned to other places or planes tend to make a ruckus.

Tscheuss
06-03-2015, 10:02 AM
I don't believe you need Colors for stealth. Maybe you could toggle Colors off while being sneaky, and then you toggle it on for fighting. :)

Eth
06-03-2015, 10:07 AM
I don't believe you need Colors for stealth. Maybe you could toggle Colors off while being sneaky, and then you toggle it on for fighting. :)

Sneaking around would never proc colors. Attacking something something with melee attacks, ranged attacks or spells procs colors.
If you get a small animal as a result of a proc it will follow you (even after a fight). So you would have to turn it off permanently pretty much if you want to avoid that.

Wipey
06-03-2015, 10:18 AM
Sneaking ? Pfft, having a squirrel or fox on my side is sudden huge morale boost.

When the going gets tough, someone hold my rodent!

Saekee
06-03-2015, 10:21 AM
Yes! Small wild animals suddenly summoned to other places or planes tend to make a ruckus.
since it is a summon, I wonder if it will disappear if another is summoned.


I don't believe you need Colors for stealth. Maybe you could toggle Colors off while being sneaky, and then you toggle it on for fighting. :)


Sneaking around would never proc colors. Attacking something something with melee attacks, ranged attacks or spells procs colors.
If you get a small animal as a result of a proc it will follow you (even after a fight). So you would have to turn it off permanently pretty much if you want to avoid that.

I think the OP had it proc while fighting and then was stuck with it. Subsequent efforts to stealth then got messed up. That is why I wonder how they might be gotten rid of, like through their being killed or through another summon.
I remember a similar issue that I had with Primal Avatar. I had selected the Fox, thinking it would help me have fun stealthing. This did not happen.

Fedora1
06-03-2015, 10:57 AM
Yes! Small wild animals suddenly summoned to other places or planes tend to make a ruckus.

Interesting. I would have thought that it's behavior (as a non-combatant summon) would have been more akin to a creature companion. Or do those break stealth as well? The mimic is quite noisy.

geoffhanna
06-03-2015, 11:12 AM
Sneaking ? Pfft, having a squirrel or fox on my side is sudden huge morale boost.

When the going gets tough, someone hold my rodent!

Go for the eyes Boo! GO FOR THE EYES!

Xyy
06-03-2015, 11:27 AM
There's a common theme in DDO. You walk (or sneak or run) along and suddenly some creatures appear out of nowhere. You kill them all and continue onward. With EE rats doing 300hp damage, why chance it. That squirrel/fox/toad may be friendly now, but they're definitely not tame. Like everything else, kill 'em all. Dead toads don't croak.

Livmo
06-03-2015, 11:54 AM
Sneaking ? Pfft, having a squirrel or fox on my side is sudden huge morale boost.

When the going gets tough, someone hold my rodent!

Flame Ferret and Tactical Toad. Let's put the critters to work!

cdbd3rd
06-03-2015, 01:48 PM
...

When the going gets tough, someone hold my rodent!

This has been my ROFL of the day! :D

Xerio
06-03-2015, 02:50 PM
Go for the eyes Boo! GO FOR THE EYES!

beat me to it!

Milikki
06-03-2015, 04:36 PM
Is that where those come from? I've been followed by swarms of bats, and find frogs all over in quests and could never figure out where they came from. I thought maybe they were a colors of the queen thing, but never saw any buffs from them. Wow, small furry creatures gathered in my pack.

Hammertop
06-03-2015, 10:37 PM
The Ranger Past Life, to my knowledge, does not actually crate small animals into the world. This is almost certainly happening due to Colors of the Queen or Double Rainbow, which both (by design) can proc the summoning of small creatures. If you don't have either of those abilities turned on, and said animals are still appearing near you... well, we'd be interested in taking a look at your build to figure out what's going on. :)

I was going to post a screen shot of a Deer and I sneaking through the ToEE, it was nice enough to join me on my solo run, but I couldn't figure out how to post a screenshot, bummer.

Tscheuss
06-03-2015, 11:07 PM
I was going to post a screen shot of a Deer and I sneaking through the ToEE, it was nice enough to join me on my solo run, but I couldn't figure out how to post a screenshot, bummer.

1. Take screenie.
2. Upload to picture hosting site.
3. Insert link to image in post. :)

Hammertop
06-03-2015, 11:22 PM
1. Take screenie.
2. Upload to picture hosting site.
3. Insert link to image in post. :)

Thanks, It's the hosting site part I get a bit wonky about.

Hammertop
06-03-2015, 11:35 PM
The Ranger Past Life, to my knowledge, does not actually crate small animals into the world. This is almost certainly happening due to Colors of the Queen or Double Rainbow, which both (by design) can proc the summoning of small creatures. If you don't have either of those abilities turned on, and said animals are still appearing near you... well, we'd be interested in taking a look at your build to figure out what's going on. :)

Exploring the Temple of Elemental Evil with a friend.:

"So, where is the rest of the herd? or is this a stag-party?"
http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t442/Gxbranger/ScreenShot00044_zpsifigx8hj.jpg?t=1433305900

"Hey buddy could you turn off your highlighting? making it hard to sneak mate..."
http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t442/Gxbranger/ScreenShot00046_zpseyd8nemf.jpg?t=1433305901

"Be very quiet I'm hunting Temple warders..."
http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t442/Gxbranger/ScreenShot00047_zps1k8ketst.jpg?t=1433305902

Vargouille
06-04-2015, 12:15 PM
I approve of these screenshots.

Frogger1234
06-04-2015, 12:30 PM
"Be very quiet I'm hunting Temple warders..."
http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t442/Gxbranger/ScreenShot00047_zps1k8ketst.jpg?t=1433305902

My backpack is a bit smaller.

Hammertop
06-04-2015, 01:16 PM
I approve of these screenshots.

:)

I had thought about putting them in for Cordovan's screenshot contest, but wasn't sure if they were dynamic enough to compete.

But when I saw this thread I knew I found the perfect place to share them! I laughed long and hard when it happened in ToEE!

Coyopa
06-04-2015, 02:05 PM
This is absolutely not a joke. Im not exactly clear on exactly where it procs from. Is it ranger past life or colors of the queen? I really want to know because: This effect causes sneak to fail and that is a serious problem for someone who solos a lot on epic elite and spent huge skill point resources on hide and move silently. It absolutely ruins the sneak effect as mob hear the noised that these useless animals make. It literally gets me killed while soloing or causes me to have just sit and wait for them to time out. My original post was most definitely not intended to be a joke. I consider this a serious game breaking bug for sneaky ranger tactics.

How should I proceed in order to get turbine support to chime in?

As someone with a character with three ranger past lives, I can assure you it is not the past lives causing the problem.

Daine
06-04-2015, 07:21 PM
As someone with a character with three ranger past lives, I can assure you it is not the past lives causing the problem.

I also have 3 ranger past lives and no small animals appear. Of course I keep my pack sealed up good and watertight, nothing gets out of there unless I want it to, oh and there is that small fuzzy goop at the bottom of my pack I haven't got around to cleaning yet...

Hammertop
06-05-2015, 12:14 AM
I also have 3 ranger past lives and no small animals appear. Of course I keep my pack sealed up good and watertight, nothing gets out of there unless I want it to, oh and there is that small fuzzy goop at the bottom of my pack I haven't got around to cleaning yet...

Tsk, tsk, you'll get ants. This is why you can't have nice things.

Caprice
06-05-2015, 09:01 AM
Exploring the Temple of Elemental Evil with a friend.:
"So, where is the rest of the herd? or is this a stag-party?"
"Hey buddy could you turn off your highlighting? making it hard to sneak mate..."
"Be very quiet I'm hunting Temple warders..."
(Images removed for space)
Thread subscribed, and a +1 to you for bringing a giant smile to my face.

Hammertop
06-05-2015, 10:06 AM
(Images removed for space)
Thread subscribed, and a +1 to you for bringing a giant smile to my face.

Well this makes me smile now!

Saekee
06-05-2015, 11:02 AM
Exploring the Temple of Elemental Evil with a friend.:

awesome!

ahpook
06-05-2015, 11:35 AM
Exploring the Temple of Elemental Evil with a friend.:

"So, where is the rest of the herd? or is this a stag-party?"
...

"Hey buddy could you turn off your highlighting? making it hard to sneak mate..."
...

"Be very quiet I'm hunting Temple warders..."
...

Coincidentally, I just came to this thread from your thread about 2100 ToEE chests and no rare items. Now it all makes sense, the deer has been ninja looting your pulls. Go check the forest and you will find one bad ass deer with some fine gear. :)

Trappy
06-06-2015, 01:47 PM
I approve of these screenshots.

Me too!

Sianys
06-15-2015, 06:13 PM
When the going gets tough, someone hold my rodent!

Go for the eyes, Boo!

[Edit] Dang it! Also beaten to the punch. Heh. Minsc and Boo are surely epic.