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Such755
03-09-2015, 03:30 PM
On the road to completionist I have decided to go ranger next life.
I'm looking for a build that will serve me up to level 28, then I'll ETR and TR to another class.
-I want to have decent survivability and decent DPS
-I want to not be a waste of slot in epic elite quests (i.e. I want to not die the second the quest starts, and also be able to do DPS)
-Must be pure
-Past lives are: Wiz, sorc, barb, pal, fight, clr, rog, arti, monk
-+6 tome used on all abilities
I already have a bunch of green steel \ alchemical khopesh so I Was thinking to be mainly a tempest and save the bow for burst DPS \ when things get too crazy for a melee combat.
That said, strength seems to be the main stat. But as I said, I am clueless, and I have no idea about other options. I know str works for bow damage, but what about to hit?


Race?
Feats?
Skills?

Any thing that can help me will be more than appreciated.
Thank you in advance.



P.S.

This is something I came up with, tell me what you think


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.23.01
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 28 True Neutral Human Male
(20 Ranger \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 430
Spell Points: 317
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 18
Will: 7

Starting
Abilities Base Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1)
Strength 18
Dexterity 16
Constitution 16
Intelligence 8
Wisdom 8
Charisma 8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
+4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
+4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15
+4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15
+5 Tome of Strength used at level 19
+5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19
+5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19
+5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 19
+5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 19
+5 Tome of Charisma used at level 19

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 28)
Balance 3 14
Bluff -1 9
Concentration 3 13
Diplomacy -1 9
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -1 9
Heal -1 9
Hide 3 14
Intimidate -1 9
Jump 4 19
Listen -1 10
Move Silently 3 14
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 10
Search -1 11
Spellcraft -1 9
Spot -1 10
Swim 4 19
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Animal
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack


Level 2 (Ranger)


Level 3 (Ranger)


Level 4 (Ranger)


Level 5 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh


Level 7 (Ranger)


Level 8 (Ranger)


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 11 (Ranger)


Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 13 (Ranger)


Level 14 (Ranger)


Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Chaotic Outsider


Level 16 (Ranger)


Level 17 (Ranger)


Level 18 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 19 (Ranger)


Level 20 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Monstrous Humanoid


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Combat Archery


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Tactician
Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Metalline Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Shock Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Awareness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Shield of Whirling Steel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Tempest (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Graceful Death (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Deflect Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirlwind (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Dervish (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Bleed Them Out (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Bleed Them Out (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Bleed Them Out (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - The Growing Storm (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - The Growing Storm (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - The Growing Storm (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - A Thousand Cuts (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - A Thousand Cuts (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - A Thousand Cuts (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Dance of Death (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Dance of Death (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Dance of Death (Rank 3)

Grailhawk
03-09-2015, 03:40 PM
On the road to completionist I have decided to go ranger next life.
I'm looking for a build that will serve me up to level 28, then I'll ETR and TR to another class.
-I want to have decent survivability and decent DPS
-I want to not be a waste of slot in epic elite quests (i.e. I want to not die the second the quest starts, and also be able to do DPS)
-Must be pure
-Past lives are: Wiz, sorc, barb, pal, fight, clr, rog, arti, monk
I already have a bunch of green steel \ alchemical khopesh so I Was thinking to be mainly a tempest and save the bow for burst DPS \ when things get too crazy for a melee combat.
That said, strength seems to be the main stat. But as I said, I am clueless, and I have no idea about other options. I know str works for bow damage, but what about to hit?


Race?
Feats?
Skills?

Any thing that can help me will be more than appreciated.
Thank you in advance.

Skip the Bow and just mess with Melee.

Heroic Feat
Power Attack
Precision
Medium Armor Prof
Heavy Armor Prof
IC: Slashing
Exotic Weapon Prof Khopesh
Maximize or Empower Healing spell
Quicken Spell

Epic Feat
Overwhelming Critical
Epic Damage Reduction

03 AP Human
Human Versatility
Improved Recovery
11 AP Stalker
Far Shot
Sneak Attack
Stealthy
Exposing Strike
Increased Empathy
Versatile Empathy
41 AP Tempest
Shield of Whirling Steel
Improved Parry
Tempest
Improved Reaction
Improved Dodge
Graceful Death
The Growing Storm
Deflect Arrows
Whirling Blades
Whirling Blades
Whirling Blades
Whirling Blades
Dance of Death
Whirlwind
Action Boost
Dervish
25 AP Harper
Agent of Good I
Harper Enchantment
Magical Endurance
Know Your Foe
Vigor of Life I
Traveler's Toughness
Versatile Adept I
Versatile Adept II
Versatile Adept III
Know the Angles

Its not going to kick butt like FotM builds but its will get you a PL, could improve on it with some multiclassing but pure wont cripple you any.

Grailhawk
03-09-2015, 04:43 PM
Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.23.01
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 28 True Neutral Human Male
(20 Ranger \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 430
Spell Points: 317
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 18
Will: 7

Starting
Abilities Base Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1)
Strength 18
Dexterity 16
Constitution 16
Intelligence 8
Wisdom 8
Charisma 8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
+4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
+4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15
+4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15
+5 Tome of Strength used at level 19
+5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19
+5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19
+5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 19
+5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 19
+5 Tome of Charisma used at level 19

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 28)
Balance 3 14
Bluff -1 9
Concentration 3 13
Diplomacy -1 9
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -1 9
Heal -1 9
Hide 3 14
Intimidate -1 9
Jump 4 19
Listen -1 10
Move Silently 3 14
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 10
Search -1 11
Spellcraft -1 9
Spot -1 10
Swim 4 19
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Animal
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack


Level 2 (Ranger)


Level 3 (Ranger)


Level 4 (Ranger)


Level 5 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh


Level 7 (Ranger)


Level 8 (Ranger)


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 11 (Ranger)


Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 13 (Ranger)


Level 14 (Ranger)


Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Chaotic Outsider


Level 16 (Ranger)


Level 17 (Ranger)


Level 18 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 19 (Ranger)


Level 20 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Monstrous Humanoid


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Combat Archery


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Tactician
Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Metalline Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Shock Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Awareness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Shield of Whirling Steel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Tempest (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Graceful Death (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Deflect Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirlwind (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Dervish (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Bleed Them Out (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Bleed Them Out (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Bleed Them Out (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - The Growing Storm (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - The Growing Storm (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - The Growing Storm (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - A Thousand Cuts (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - A Thousand Cuts (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - A Thousand Cuts (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Dance of Death (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Dance of Death (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Dance of Death (Rank 3)




Where do you think the "decent survivability(sic)" is in that? What level of content are you expecting to play at (at level EE)?

CThruTheEgo
03-10-2015, 10:12 AM
Check out Totally Bass Ackwards in my sig. I'm level 18 currently and the build has performed beautifully so far. I've been able to keep up with bards, paladins, and barbs, but I'm still in heroics so the real test has yet to come.

I went khopesh for heroics but will switch to warhammers in dreadnaught for epics. In dreadnaught, warhammers end up with the same crit profile as khopesh, but don't cost a feat. I'd definitely recommend heavy armor over light armor plus evasion. And going int based allows you to consolidate stats so it has better survivability through higher con and saves than a str based build. DPS calcs for int vs str based came out nearly the same because, as a pure melee ranger, I don't have access to most of the ways to boost str. And int came out ahead in terms of defenses so it was an easy choice.

Also, you won't need the cleaves with dance of death. In fact, because you're twf, it would be a considerable drop in dps when your already able to hit multiple foes with both hands. Take empower healing and quicken instead. What does tactician do for you? I don't see any tactics.