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Livmo
12-22-2014, 01:10 PM
A vast ye mattey!

Here is a guide for all those pirates with bulging chests and the savvy that can go the distance for days on end. This is not just a guide about airships, but how to raise a fleet of treasure ships and darken the skies over Stormreach and beyond!

Why have more than one airship? I don’t know about you, but I have allot of booty and need space to park it. I keep my main character in the main guild as usual, but now have a fleet of treasure ships for my lootz.

The ships in the treasure fleet don’t need to go all the way to level 150. I’m content with getting most to level 19 for Guild Storage I (80 slots), but I have some level 50s in the mix. Level 50 will more than likely be my resting point for the treasure ships.

At level 10 its 50k plat for the base FTP ship. At level 19 you can get Guild Storage I for 150 AS. At level 50 you can get the Guild Storage II for 125 AS for a grand total of 160 slots. Along the journey to level 50 you can get a bigger FTP ship and the old small and large chests for the cargo hold. Here are the DDO wiki links for both the new and old amenties:


http://ddowiki.com/page/Guild_Airships
http://ddowiki.com/page/Guild_Airships_%28history%29#Airship_Amenities


The old chests still have value. I park long term storage there. I don’t always keep the old chest buffs going and let them expire. At a later point should the need arise to get into the chest, I will plant another one in the cargo hold. All the loot that was in chest when it expired will still be in there once you put it back down. I really like how the new storage and ship buffs are permanent.

To put things into perspective I will build 6 treasure galleons. The maximum small guild bonus is set at 6 accounts. You get the biggest boost in renoun when a guild has 6 active accounts. The amount of characters per account in the guild does not matter, just active accounts.

Six ships with Guild Storage I yields 480 slots for storage. Level them to 50 and that’s 960 slots of storage. This does not count the old ship chests. Furthermore, you get allot of extra storage space with all those alt characters from their backpacks and banks.

For added value I bought more starter packs from the DDO Market on Black Friday for $2.50 each. I spent $10 for 4 packs grand total during the sale. The Starter Packs are $9.99 when not on sale. This allowed me to make my alt accounts premium, which bumped the avail character slots from 2 to 4, plus other goodies.

How do you access all the loot across ships, accounts, and toons? My main account has all the guild leaders for the treasure ships. I send stuff back forth via shared bank. Four of my accounts have shared banks. The shared bank is key and easy to get. The Starter pack comes with 250 TPs and with 1st time favor bonuses on each server it’s not hard to get the shared bank when it’s on sale.

Likewise a Guild Charter is 150 TPs. Three first time favor bonuses on different servers will get you a charter fast:


http://ddowiki.com/page/Favor
http://ddowiki.com/page/Turbine_Point


You can use the advice in this post without spending any RL money. It just takes longer. If you want to maximize the free in FTP, the web links above are worth reading and pondering.

If you’re savvy enough, a convoy of treasure ships can be obtained in game to store all kinds of items for the win!

Livmo
12-22-2014, 01:11 PM
I farm renoun in two ways.

First I like to queue up a bunch of sagas and turn them in. Or you can run 1-3 epic saga chains a night for comms/Heart Seeds and renoun. There are several popular circuits and some roads less traveled that are good for saga farming as well. Remember to use a guild renoun pot before turning in the sagas for even more renoun.

The second way is to farm quests. Farm quests at level or below. There are clusters of quests throughout the game that can be farmed fast for renoun as you level from level 1 to 28. For a level guide check out Crazyfruit’s thread, Best places to earn Guild Renown:


https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/259193


Use guild renoun pots and go for quests with fast completion times with many chests. You want fast completion ( 4 minutes or less) to get the most out of your pots, and more chests for more chance to loot renoun. Also don't forget quest turn in as well. Quest turn in is another great source of renoun.

Turn and burn on the completion. Ransack and move to next quest. Rinse and repeat once a week. I run without pots for the most part unless they are free. I get nice renoun from sagas as well, so I don't sweat the pots.

To maximize renoun use the small guild bonus, weekend bonus, renoun pot, and saga turn in.

Lastly, if you gain 3 guild levels or more in a day you will reach renoun ransack. However, you can ransack farming quests, and then turn in your sagas. You can still get the saga renoun while on ransack. Likewise, you also still get renoun from monster kills. When on renoun ransack the chests and end rewards lists don’t drop renoun until your ransack wears off.

Livmo
12-23-2014, 12:49 AM
Well, how about those Astral Shards that you mention?

You have 3 ways to get Astral Shards in the game; buy them, make them on the Shard Exchange, or win them from a daily dice roll.

30 shards from the DDO Store costs 195 TPs. That is 4 first-time favor rewards of 50 TPs on 4 different servers if you're savvy.

To earn Astral Shards from the Shard Exchange you need to post items that sell. It costs 1 shard to post an item on the exchange. You get the shard back if your item does not sell. If you got 30 shards, then you can post 30 items. I always try to keep at least 1 shard on hand in case I got something nice to sell.

In turn, you can fund your ship amenities like Guild Storage I, Orien Express, and Farshifter with shards that you made off the exchange. I've always found EE GH items to be great sellers.

Hopefully lightening will strike twice:


http://i.imgur.com/RyENifo.jpg

Mindos
12-23-2014, 09:57 PM
Well, how about those Astral Shards that you mention?
If you got 30 shards, then you can post 30 items



What about premium limits on auction posting?

These have been, espically the first post, some of the best info in the game ever.
I never thought in a million years of linking guild chests to main account leaders, with shared bank. wow. just wow, very impressive.

Livmo
12-26-2014, 11:37 AM
What about premium limits on auction posting?

These have been, espically the first post, some of the best info in the game ever.
I never thought in a million years of linking guild chests to main account leaders, with shared bank. wow. just wow, very impressive.

Thank you!

Since I'm a hoarder I've never approached the upper limits of postings :D It's difficult to muster the courage to post 2-3 items at a one time! Still better than collecting cats in RL in my opinion : ) )

Basically it only takes one shard to post 1 item to begin collecting shards for the ships.

Also, since the drop rates increased with the last update, now would be a good time to farm EE ToR for helms to sell on the shard exchange to make shards for the ship amenities. Before prices start to decline as more people start selling helms.

Faltout
12-26-2014, 01:42 PM
I don't understand? What more are the guild storage chests providing you that a bank character/account does not? Hoarders are actually asking for more BTC space which neither a bank character nor a guild chest provide.
And honestly, it costs a lot more to get guilds and airships than just roll a new character. Am I missing something?

Btw, free players cannot post at the ASAH even if they have shards from rolls.

Livmo
12-26-2014, 02:37 PM
I don't understand? What more are the guild storage chests providing you that a bank character/account does not? Hoarders are actually asking for more BTC space which neither a bank character nor a guild chest provide.
And honestly, it costs a lot more to get guilds and airships than just roll a new character. Am I missing something?

Btw, free players cannot post at the ASAH even if they have shards from rolls.

Good point about the shards.

Check out this messy room below :) )

I like to have stuff on demand without allot of loggin'. You can interweave your accounts and shared banks to make it easy to find stuff and access. One ship is all consumables that all my accounts have access to. Basically I deposit consumables there and have lots of piles of 100 of potions, scrolls, etc. I can pick and choose what I need or want across accounts from a central place on the ship. Right across the hall is the Orien Express as well for more convieniance.

The messy ship below is my newest ship that I got right before Christmas. Whenever I make a new toon, TR one, or level it's like going shopping at the mall on each ship. Except I got 6 malls that I can shop at in my network. The Consumables ship is popular. I have one full of armor. The messy one here is loaded up with all the immediate relief that I got from another L19 ship. The loot below is from the toons I'm currently playing (arty, wizzy, bardholio, cleric, and a few mixtos).

I stopped making alts at 40. I have 40 alts. Ship storage is great, because almost all 40 are playable at all levels. The extra space helps my alts stay playable and not clogged with inventory. I hate to stop questing to sell. I play all these toons from time to time, and my levels and tastes change frequently. I like shopping.

I keep 2 backpack slots free on each alt for questing, role playing, raiding, and renoun farming. However, they all have a slot or 2 full of items. On my spreadsheet I have notated who has what. For example, toon X has bank and/or back pack slot(s) that are filled only with seeker and dodge belts at various levels.

I love my lootz.

Check out this messy room:

http://i.imgur.com/cKcX5yq.jpg

eldrytch75
12-30-2014, 08:46 AM
I thought having 4 pack mules on a premium and 2 on a f2p was bad. Guess not.

Lonnbeimnech
12-30-2014, 09:01 AM
http://i.imgur.com/cKcX5yq.jpg

I wouldn't even store that stuff in my buy-back window.

Dramentia
12-30-2014, 09:38 AM
Or just take those points and add a few more and add bank slots. Easier no mucking about with ships and chests and farming points/renown. Or just don't be a pack rat lol.

Faltout
12-30-2014, 09:44 AM
Or just take those points and add a few more and add bank slots. Easier no mucking about with ships and chests and farming points/renown. Or just don't be a pack rat lol.

I would guess he already has all the bank/inventory space he could get. And I would also guess that not being a pack rat goes against his nature. So, besides the reasoning he gave that he doesn't want lots of logins (to mule accounts), there's really nothing else to be said. I wouldn't want to try and convince him to pass me some loot in the chest :D

horriblescarz
12-30-2014, 12:49 PM
good work on the treasure fleet, but imho after seeing the 'messy room' pic i would have to suggest a delete and uninstall. the items you have collected can easily be found in at the vendors, pawnshops and on the old auction house for low amounts of plats. why store trash?

i have 28 accounts, only 6 are truly active.. so why do i have the 22 other accounts you might be wondering, well they are mules and they hold the unbound gear my 6 main accounts use for leveling. i have them sorted by alt they squire for and by lvl range. i also have more than 1 guild and more than 1 ship.

allow me to elaborate a lil further, all of the guilds i am in are also my guilds and are only filled with my alts (hence the 6 main active being in my primary guild). my alt guild is only a holding guild, something i made to stop those annoying recruitment mails and /tells. the 2nd guild has no ship and i would not waste efforts on getting it one. after all solo leveling and upgrading a ship is a lot of effort and i dont feel it is wise for me to dilute the main to support mules in such a frivilous manner. its easy enough to invite one to a party and to the ship.. open trade.. or umd a tele scroll to them or w/e.

but as i said in the title of this it is about quality not quantity.....

my mules only hold stuff i will use, why clutter up with common or obsolete items and vendor scrolls/pots?

one of my mains is working on epl's and has 60ish items for 20-26 that are unbinding rand gen loot (all off level items goto the squire), she does have a fair amount of btc items although most is not used until 27-28. she has no active heroic item mule and will farm as needed if/when or take hand downs from other alts. so what other items do i store on mules??? well i have 1 account (prem main guild) filled with those awesome u16/17 items.. joy of joys is the mule with soul stealing armors and shields, much luv to my lacerating mule... ect.

this is not to say i dont keep scrolls and pots on mules also.. but with a twist.. the only pots i keep are house d and invisi's and some handy cookies. my scroll mules hold only 'RARE' scrolls .

as for things like the stack of heroic orbs you have?? um why hoard them when you can get them from the armor brokers in estar (lurk moar) at base price or cheaper in the ah? or the items that can be low lvl crafted with a lower ml? or the sub starter gear that everyone vendor trashes..... of all of the items in you're pic.. there is only 2 of value/significance (exceptional fort 10 ring of resist7 & the GS belt) .. the rest is common trash.

my guild chests hold some basics.. 1 small full of 10\11th wands, 1 large full of items to be asah posted, 1 (small) for AH posts and another large for moving items to and from primary mules.

hoarding in a mmos is always gonna happen even to the neat freaks among use, but at the end of the day i would prefer to hoard useful items and leave the trash in the chest.

Lanadazia
01-02-2015, 12:56 PM
Or just take those points and add a few more and add bank slots. Easier no mucking about with ships and chests and farming points/renown. Or just don't be a pack rat lol.

nope thats still not enough.
just the bound to character stuff is so much, i have no space at all!
i'm carrying stuff around with me i'm not using anymore (twink gear i needed during TR) at level cap cause my bank is full of BTC stuffz
its a nice idea to link guildchests to your shared bank via mules that are guild leaders, but since you cannot put BTC into shared bank and no BTA into guildchests this is kinda obsolete
only unbound stuff (aka if named stuff you havent used yet but will, and then its on your main toon again. > again the same space problem) goes into the guildchests. not worth to grind a guild or even more up to level X since you can put unbound stuff on a 2nd account also! pointless imo, but i'll keep it in mind, it might get useful one day
sooner or later i'll run out of space/have the max char slots on my account

Livmo
01-02-2015, 01:40 PM
I have all the available storage and Livmo's personal storage is 100% full of BtC items. And all good to great items. I have to throw some BtC stuff away at times to make room for new stuff that might be better :/ There is far too much BtC/BtCoA in this game. I like BtA better, because I can have only one or tow of the same item and share it amongst my toons. Ultimately I would prefer no bound items.

Also want to point out that the messy room is just my newest ship that I unloaded into from the various chars. I'm currently playing to unclog their invetories. There is much better loot on some of the other ships and my mules (all playable but a few broken ones).

However, I would not call that black helm in the screenie junk. It was EE and sold in 2 1/2 hours and got me Otto's Dance Hall for the boat :D

Also, sold an EH black helm for 2 mill plat on the regular AH and netted 1.4 mil plat that I put into that ship account. Got all the plat amenities you can get up to L26 (where that guild is at right now).

To add more perspective, on one server alone I have enough stat tomes to fill all the slots in a Guild Storage II set-up. I could easily do the same with skill tomes there as well. Of course I have duplicate tomes of stat and skill. These are all unboud. Trust me when I say that I'm also constipated with bound tomes as well :/

Just because I'm a hoarder doesn't mean I don't sell and/or give away stuff. Over New Years I gave away a Meridian Fragment, Globe of Imperial Blood and the +3 INT tome that I pulled here, https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/453994-I-found-a-boon-in-Wheloon

I still feel it's better to hoard in game, rather than at home in RL.

Livmo
01-02-2015, 11:52 PM
I mentioned in the first post that the old school chest amenities still had value.

At level 20 I get the Small Guild Chest Contract for the cargo hold. Aside from long term storage, the small chests are great to use for collecting consumables. Sometimes I use a small chest on more than one airship depending on the toons I'm running at the time. As toons breeze through the ships I drop consumables that I picked up in quests, raids, and challenges into the small chest(s). Every once and a while when a small chest gets built up, I will consolidate, and then move the stacks of 100.

Here is a screenie of a Small Guild Chest Contract that I just purchased for the newest ship. I've began filling it after Christmas. This one is mostly potions, but the same concept can be applied to other consumables like rare scrolls, etc.


http://i.imgur.com/IRTzQci.jpg

Livmo
01-03-2015, 12:40 AM
Is full of hair dye and candy canes :p

The rest of the chests are the same (all candy canes), but this one. It has the hair dye and that cool ring in the shot for when one of my lowbies needs to get out of Dodge fast! I don't know about you, but some of the lowbie Kobold Shamans and Archaic Skelitons shoot lightening and other bad stuff : ) ) I like to have the ring on demand. This guild has a few lowbies right now and I can pass it back and forth in the chest when I'm not using it on a particular toon.

BTW, if I desire to, I can easily move that ring into another ship/guild/group of toons by dropping into the Shared Bank. Of course you can mail the ring as well, but I tend blow plat as fast as I make it sometimes. It cost plat to send stuff via mail. Keep in mind that the storage gives you options. I can live with sending an item or 2 like this by mail. However, I've been stopped dead in my tracks from mailing something, because I was low on funds or on a new toon.


http://i.imgur.com/s6XBqxz.jpg

Livmo
01-03-2015, 01:11 AM
Not all hoarders are the same and hoard for different reasons. To classify or think of all hoarders as being the same is akin to saying all the people from a particular race, religion, or country are the same.

Let me point out that for me the joy in hoarding comes from giving things away to right person at the right time. I consider myself to be a "Placement Specialist". I mention this, because the thread had yielded a teachable moment. I'm also an ardent fan of the "Free Store" concept.

Please take a moment to watch the video in this DDO Forum post in another thread regarding the "Free Store". It would mean allot to me if you did. And thank you :)

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/453055-Would-like-to-transfer-money-items?p=5492611&viewfull=1#post5492611

psykopeta
01-03-2015, 05:36 AM
wow that's kinda... interesting, maybe

it reminds me ppl who played games to make the biggest amount of currency by only selling items, even if they are outpriced

or ppl who made the most weird things to avoid paying like playing in all servers unlocking all favor, guess it's all a matter of the concept of "having fun"

but hoarding unbound stuff of rare use well... you could always give good gear instead, or even plat so they can buy whatever they want

but ofc, ppl are free to spend their free time as they want, some have no hobbies, some have weird hobbies, and others do weird mixes of hobbies

Lonnbeimnech
01-03-2015, 06:24 AM
Not all hoarders are the same and hoard for different reasons. To classify or think of all hoarders as being the same is akin to saying all the people from a particular race, religion, or country are the same.

Let me point out that for me the joy in hoarding comes from giving things away to right person at the right time. I consider myself to be a "Placement Specialist". I mention this, because the thread had yielded a teachable moment. I'm also an ardent fan of the "Free Store" concept.

Please take a moment to watch the video in this DDO Forum post in another thread regarding the "Free Store". It would mean allot to me if you did. And thank you :)

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/453055-Would-like-to-transfer-money-items?p=5492611&viewfull=1#post5492611

MMkay, so that ring of expeditious retreat is for who? A first lifer that hasn't completed sacrifices yet?

Livmo
01-03-2015, 12:50 PM
MMkay, so that ring of expeditious retreat is for who? A first lifer that hasn't completed sacrifices yet?

OK first off it got a bit more challenging with the intro of champions. Which is good in my opinion. To create challenge for myself in general I like to start brand new toons at level 1. Basically I skip the Korthos Island altogether and break for the Harbor as soon as I can.

I like to wear stuff I find with a few exceptions like the ring on lowbie toons. The ring has been very helpful since the advent of champs. I solo without hires and some of the champs are tough to kill and spam lightening bolt among other bad things at me. The ring is useful to help me get away from a bad fight to re-group and counterattack. Think of running The Butcher's Path on Elite with champs under level with not all your gear slots full.

You don't see them in the shot, but the clutch of lowbies in the guild are also using invis and feather fall ring clickies too. The only one that group is missing is jump. For some reason a while back I had a jump ring and it started to take damage and I bound and attuned it (some of my toons stay lowbie to farm renoun). My thought was I will get another one hahhahahaha, and haven't seen once since!

The ring helps the get away if you become overwhelmed by the dogs in Home Sweet Sewer. In that quest I like to aggro all the dogs and have them chase me back to the enterence in a pack. Also, I get the breakable bonus and can gleam some of the loot that drops from the barrels. Sometimes the dogs catch up and start nipping at your heels, literally : ) )

On a side note, the Harbor solo quests are easy to farm 1or 2 times for some plat and other lowbie gear if you start at 0 plat and items with the exception of the Grotto stuff, which isin't much. Sometimes I need plat for my repair bills and pots.

Fun is what you make it sometimes. There are many in the box and out of the box ways to challenge ones self in DDO and still have fun running the same old quests. I like the spicy that the champs brought to the game.

This is just my opinion and I'm fine with starting at 28 pt builds, but with the champs it may be wise to raise the bar and start all new toons at 32 point builds? Peeps brand new to the game might not feel as overwhelmed if they end up in an Elite TR zerg zerg LFM?

Livmo
01-03-2015, 01:11 PM
Bound to Charecter (BtC) items and Bound to Account (BtA) items.

Hindsight being 20/20 I should have made screen shots of my shared bank, some mules and such. I have a very high volume of awesome unbound items that you are not seeing. I only showed you the very tip of ice berg with the newest ship. Also, one player trash is another player treasure!

Another way to challenge yourself is to collect all the CiTW weapons and fully upgrade them. I have 2 toons that are almost done here. I got another that only needs to get the Ring of Deceit and shortsword from FoT and upgrade them and that toon will have all the FoT items. I'm closing in on a set of Epic Chrono items on another toon.

Perhaps someday I might find it fun to try and collect 1 of each named item in the game? Boo that allot of them are BtC or BtCoA (Bound to Char. on Aquire).

I'm totally down with the idea of a trophy case or book that I can scroll through and drop my raid and set items into for storage and to gloat over once I fill in the sheet or case with all the items from a particular raid or chain. It would also be cool if this was accessablie in the the ship, where it can be near the new guild storage and the Orein Express for conveiniance, so I don't have to go too far after questing/raiding to put an item in or take out to use.

What can I say? I want MOAR storage!

: ) )

And Mo Sharn too!
EDIT ~ 1 FTP Epic quest? Make it level 30 and quasi raid-ish?

Erofen
01-03-2015, 03:09 PM
Likewise a Guild Charter is 150 TPs. Three first time favor bonuses on different servers will get you a charter fast:


http://ddowiki.com/page/Favor
http://ddowiki.com/page/Turbine_Point


You can use the advice in this post without spending any RL money. It just takes longer. If you want to maximize the free in FTP, the web links above are worth reading and pondering.

I have also found that friendly VIPs will create a guild for FREE with whatever name you like, promote you, and leave it. Just put a message in harbor chat or a big chat channel on the server and people tend to help out.

Livmo
01-03-2015, 04:57 PM
I have also found that friendly VIPs will create a guild for FREE with whatever name you like, promote you, and leave it. Just put a message in harbor chat or a big chat channel on the server and people tend to help out.

I've never been VIP before. Mind blown! Wow, I had this happen before a while back on the forums. That is a much better strategy. TYVM for sharing :)

Livmo
09-21-2015, 01:29 PM
Foremost, here are some wiki links for those new to guild renown and challenges.


http://ddowiki.com/page/Guild_Renown
http://ddowiki.com/page/Challenges
http://ddowiki.com/page/Vaults_of_the_Artificers
http://ddowiki.com/page/Vaults_of_the_Artificers_loot


The Vaults of the Artificers challenge pack can sometimes go on sale for a deep discount. If you're premium, watch for deals. For those that already have access to Vaults of the Artificers, it can be farmed for Minor Guild Renown Elixirs to boost your renown output. Guild Storage I is at L19 and Guild Storage II at L50. Combined that is 180 slots of storage per ship not counting the old school chests.

To build up my treasure ships fast I like to run sagas. Once all my sagas are ready for turn in, I drink a guild renown pot and then turn them in. However, at various levels throughout the game you can farm quests for renown on the way from level 1 to 28. The Minor Guild Renown Elixirs are great for this as well.

It takes 150 non-epic ingredients from the Cannith Challenges to trade in for 1 Minor Guild Renown Elixir.

Here are some more challenge related DDO Forum links that you may find useful:


https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/461601-DDOCast-386-Challenges?highlight=challenge+farmer
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/419453-Help-me-craft-an-Iconic-Challenge-Farmer?p=5030817&viewfull=1#post5030817



I personally like to make my challenge farmers out of iconics, but after playing warlock I might make a warlock based challenge farmer. DDoor is a great spell to have when running the challenges solo and/or with a group.

EDIT ~ BTW it's fairly easy to get more than 150 non-epic ingrediants in 1 run solo. However it's more fun to group and you get moar! Make it a guild night :D

Livmo
12-23-2015, 08:43 AM
A list of airship amenities that cost Astral Shards can be found on this DDO Wiki page, http://ddowiki.com/page/Guild_Airships.

I have another guild/treasure ship on the cusp of hitting level 50, which means I will want to upgrade my Guild Storage I (80 slots) to Guild Storage II (an additional 20 slots per chest for a grand total of 160).

I wanted to give a heads up that you don't have to pay full Astral Shard price for the shard amenities. There are some cheaper ways to get shard amenities. My personal favorite is getting guild ship amenity deeds from champion chests. I know a rare occurence for sure, but a great feeling when you pull one from a champ chest.

Another way to get amenity deeds on the cheap is from the Auction House and/or Shard Exchange when they are available. Use the list of amenities at http://ddowiki.com/page/Guild_Airships as a guide when shopping the auction houses. Why? Because some folks post deeds there for more than what you can get them for on your ship. The Guild Storage series gets cheaper as you go up in levels and NOT more expensive. Be a savy consumer and don't overpay. The goal is to come away cheap for your treasure ships.

Did you know that you can buy the deeds from the auction houses and store them until your guild(s) are high enough level to use them? Always keep an eye out for a deal. You never know what you'll find unless you look!

OK time for some screenies:

Storing deeds. I got these on the cheap from the auction houses for less than what they can be had for on the guild ship:

http://i.imgur.com/nV5qXSc.jpg

A sampling of what was available last night on my home server:

http://i.imgur.com/QyTh7FT.jpg

Another sampling screenie from last night:

http://i.imgur.com/V5FV9gc.jpg


OMG! Don't overpay! Guild storage goes down in shard price, not up when your guild levels. BUYER BEWARE, use list at http://ddowiki.com/page/Guild_Airships when shopping for amenities. The Guild Storage V upgrade is 15 shards on the ship when you hit guild level 150!

http://i.imgur.com/mEBErXj.jpg

Here is another bad deal example from last night. Guild Storage II on ship is 125 shards for the upgrade when your guild hits level 50.

http://i.imgur.com/QK8Lcpg.jpg

I had some items sell on the Shard Exchange and went shopping. Using the chart at http://ddowiki.com/page/Guild_Airships to compare what was available last night on the Shard Exchange, I made some bids:

http://i.imgur.com/lhsObP0.jpg

If you are active in pursuing champ chests, you can get lucky and score a free deed sometimes. However, you can also check the auction houses under the Miscellaneous tabs to find some amenity deals to deeds on the cheap for your treasure ships.

On a side note, I've pulled 2 Cannith Crafting Hall deeds from champ chests and bought 3 off the auctions houses on the cheap. 5 out of my 7 treasure ships have Cannith Crafting Halls. Makes it easy to run down the hall of the ship and crunch stuff if I need to. I also have a crafter in each of the 7 guilds as well. It's nice to have other amenities on your treasure ships besides the guild storage.

Livmo
07-29-2016, 01:04 AM
Still hoarding:


http://i.imgur.com/npT8Cqb.jpg

Mglaxix
07-29-2016, 05:08 AM
Wow no wonder you are plat poor

4 Plat pay guild chests with 5 Portable Holes and 24 Adamantine ore as the only useful items in them. Rest is definitely vendor trash. Meaning you have plat.

Another pay guild chest 3 pots of invis and 16 mnemonic pots rest vendor trash

Another pay chest with a expeditous ring only useful item in it rest hair dye storage lmao





Is full of hair dye and candy canes :p

The rest of the chests are the same (all candy canes), but this one. It has the hair dye and that cool ring in the shot for when one of my lowbies needs to get out of Dodge fast! I don't know about you, but some of the lowbie Kobold Shamans and Archaic Skelitons shoot lightening and other bad stuff : ) ) I like to have the ring on demand. This guild has a few lowbies right now and I can pass it back and forth in the chest when I'm not using it on a particular toon.

BTW, if I desire to, I can easily move that ring into another ship/guild/group of toons by dropping into the Shared Bank. Of course you can mail the ring as well, but I tend blow plat as fast as I make it sometimes. It cost plat to send stuff via mail. Keep in mind that the storage gives you options. I can live with sending an item or 2 like this by mail. However, I've been stopped dead in my tracks from mailing something, because I was low on funds or on a new toon.

All those plat pay chests keep you broke for a expeditious ring truly sad use of funds.


http://i.imgur.com/s6XBqxz.jpg


OK first off it got a bit more challenging with the intro of champions. Which is good in my opinion. To create challenge for myself in general I like to start brand new toons at level 1. Basically I skip the Korthos Island altogether and break for the Harbor as soon as I can.

I like to wear stuff I find with a few exceptions like the ring on lowbie toons. The ring has been very helpful since the advent of champs. I solo without hires and some of the champs are tough to kill and spam lightening bolt among other bad things at me. The ring is useful to help me get away from a bad fight to re-group and counterattack. Think of running The Butcher's Path on Elite with champs under level with not all your gear slots full.

With all that junk how could you ever have a toon with gear slots that are not full......

You don't see them in the shot, but the clutch of lowbies in the guild are also using invis and feather fall ring clickies too. The only one that group is missing is jump. For some reason a while back I had a jump ring and it started to take damage and I bound and attuned it (some of my toons stay lowbie to farm renoun). My thought was I will get another one hahhahahaha, and haven't seen once since!

All of my clickie gear is BTA tossed all that and I only have Invis clickies in multiples who needs more than one jump clickie.

The ring helps the get away if you become overwhelmed by the dogs in Home Sweet Sewer. In that quest I like to aggro all the dogs and have them chase me back to the enterence in a pack. Also, I get the breakable bonus and can gleam some of the loot that drops from the barrels. Sometimes the dogs catch up and start nipping at your heels, literally : ) )

On a side note, the Harbor solo quests are easy to farm 1or 2 times for some plat and other lowbie gear if you start at 0 plat and items with the exception of the Grotto stuff, which isin't much. Sometimes I need plat for my repair bills and pots.

Fun is what you make it sometimes. There are many in the box and out of the box ways to challenge ones self in DDO and still have fun running the same old quests. I like the spicy that the champs brought to the game.

This is just my opinion and I'm fine with starting at 28 pt builds, but with the champs it may be wise to raise the bar and start all new toons at 32 point builds? Peeps brand new to the game might not feel as overwhelmed if they end up in an Elite TR zerg zerg LFM?

Livmo
07-29-2016, 10:08 AM
Wow no wonder you are plat poor

4 Plat pay guild chests with 5 Portable Holes and 24 Adamantine ore as the only useful items in them. Rest is definitely vendor trash. Meaning you have plat.

Another pay guild chest 3 pots of invis and 16 mnemonic pots rest vendor trash

Another pay chest with a expeditous ring only useful item in it rest hair dye storage lmao

You're mistaken. Look at the background behind the chests.

The new guild storage is purchased with shards and does not have to be renewed. I don't use the plat chests allot per see, only sometimes for deep storage. You can put stuff in the plat chest and let it expire and when you put that chest down again in the future, all the stuff will still be in there. I was using that as an example. I don't bother with the cargo hold anymore if I don't have to.

What you are looking at mostly is:


http://ddowiki.com/page/Guild_Airships

Guild Storage I Hold Room 19 150 Gain four storage chests. Two can be used by any guild members and two can only be used by Guild officers. Capacity 20 each chest.


Also if you watch the Shard Exchange, you can get the Guild Storage I for way less than 150 AS. I've got them as low as 10 AS off the Shard Exchange before. They appear under the Miscellanous section.

Make a storage guild and level it to 19 and then get chest off the Shard. That's 80 slots on the cheap :D

At level 50 you can purchase Guild Storage II which adds another 20 slots to each chest and now you have 160 slots that don't have to be renwed with plat. These cost 125 AS for the upgrade, but again get them on the cheap via the Shard.


EDIT:

You can get AS for free in the game from Monster Manuels. Sell stuff with those AS and bam, you have free AS to buy the perm. Guild Storage series.

Livmo
04-04-2019, 09:38 PM
I'm thinking about using the Guild Storage II slots for Boxes of Chocolate after I hit 50 on this ship. I plan to add Boquets to this ship as well. It will be another consumable only ship (I have rare scrolls, pots, Ham, etc on other ships).

https://i.imgur.com/FWePAhX.jpg

Livmo
04-04-2019, 10:44 PM
Because they also make great renoun farmers (Saga turn-ins, https://ddowiki.com/page/Saga).

C-Dog outlined a very nice example of Saga farming in this thread:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/504534-Seeking-Counseling-for-a-Hoarder-!?p=6199016&viewfull=1#post6199016


I did this, went to 50+(!) on my "main" storage ship for GS II, and 19 on 2 others. Level 19 is trivial* if you can run Sagas w/ a pot, and pots are free a few times/year.


(* Guild Level 19 is 342,950 Renown (https://ddowiki.com/page/Renown#Guild_Renown_required_per_Guild_Level). The lowest level Saga (Lvl 4-7, which you can casually crush in less than 2 hours w/ an over-level character) will give you something like 140k renown w/ a +20% pot, so only 3 runs (or 1 run multiboxing two Level 4 pikers!). On a +50% Guild Bonus Weekend that's only 2 runs. Do one, wait for the weekend, turn it in and do another, done. And that includes room to lose 10% when that alt quits.)


This crew's all trouble, but especially watch out for green hair (caster maniac):
https://i.imgur.com/Dx8N9Tx.jpg

MacRighteous
04-05-2019, 11:57 AM
Great guide, well written and entertaining to read at times - lots of good tips here about a lot of things and I must say I'm impressed by your ingenuity and determination.

Having said that, the first impression I get from this guide is; This is how broken storage and inventory is in DDO - No player should have to go through all of this to get around the games inventory issues - even terminal hoarders. If DDO offered a workable solution to store all the **** we acquire ingame (and let's face it DDO has tons of shiny stuff that crows and hoarders can't resist, more so than any other game i've played) - then people like the OP could better channel their energy and ingenuity into more important endeavors - like curing cancer or inventing a perpetual motion machine - or at least developing a crispy taco shell that doesn't crack and explode taco guts on the first bite.

So my hats off to you sir or madame - Bravo for thinking out of the box and not being held back by the man..... This solution isn't for me - though I'm sure some others will find it useful, so thanks for your courage to share your affliction without apologies - somewhere -someone out there in DDO land is saying - I'm not alone, there are others out there like me - and will find comfort in the revelation, that my friend is a great service even if it just reaches one other foo... err - person.

Another thing that I reflect upon (and please don't take this harshly) when I see someone put this much effort into a digital world (and partly because it bothers me from time to time too) is: What happens to your soul when that eventual day comes (hopefully years and years from now) when DDO turns off the lights and all this - a virtual kingdom, with a standing army of 40 alts, a friggen armada and enough lootz to fund world war III - goes *BLINK* and dissipates into the nether?

I've been playing off and on (mostly on) for 12 years and have put a lot of time, effort and treasure (both real and virtual) into a handful of alts - and a few of them have became like my children; I'm always on the lookout for their best interest, dedicated to providing for their needs and do the best I can to make sure they want for nothing and have a full and meaningful ddo life - but this... this is some beyond the next level S***, my friend. I'll be sad and look back at my ddo time with fondness and nostalgia - but i'll survive the "empty nest" syndrome (I did with my PnP character that I played in one campaign every saturday night for 10 years and I survived 3 RL kids growing up and moving on) but I fear for you - do you have an exit plan? And no - it's doubtful that DDO code will become available to be put on a private server after close - they didnt with Asheron's call and they prolly wont (should say can't because of WotC) with DDO.

Anyways - get it while you can and don't forget to gather for buff - err - nevermind.

PS - My sentient gem would love to visit your ships.

Livmo
04-06-2019, 03:02 AM
Snip

Thanks and you're spot on about the lights going out! All good things come to an end. I worry moar for others than myself, because I've been prepping for the darkness off and on for years. I view the money and time spent being akin to going out to the bar. I'm good there.

I do know I would miss the battle system and commaradarie. And of course my friends very much.

On a positive note, if DDO ever had Epic Airship Battles, I'd be able to start out with an armada of ships! The hoarding paid off big time when Sentient Weapons came out and I emptied a few ships to level multiple weapons.

I still hoard. Right now I'm really geeked on Philligrees.

Edit ~ I went and got a shot from my current backpack for funz.
https://i.imgur.com/CObLml0.jpg

Livmo
04-06-2019, 04:18 AM
In this post Cocomajobo does an excellent job of explaining how the Treasure Hunter Elixer and the Jewel of Fortune affect Random LootGen. It's good to know if you're a hoarder (know what to auction v keep v sell v deconstruct).

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/504052-DDO-Bonus-Days!?p=6193478&viewfull=1#post6193478

You may have noticed in my previous post I'm running both in the screenshot.

kmoustakas
04-06-2019, 06:17 AM
Hoard all the things! <3 Livmo