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Oliphant
11-21-2014, 03:15 AM
I'm planning a Morninglord Wizard Rogue splash maxing Enchant DCs and Spell Penetration

Do I need the spell penetration past lives with all of this spell penetration investment?

The Palemaster is for the +2 enchantment DCs from Vampire form.

Thoughts shared are generally appreciated


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The Abyssian
Level 28 True Neutral Morninglord Male
(2 Rogue \ 1 Cleric \ 17 Wizard \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 332
Spell Points: 1370
BAB: 9\9\14
Fortitude: 10
Reflex: 20
Will: 14

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 14 18
Dexterity 14 18
Constitution 12 16
Intelligence 20 35
Wisdom 10 14
Charisma 8 12

Tomes Used
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+4 Tome of Charisma used at level 1

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 28) (Level 28)
Balance 6 11 19
Bluff 1 1 9
Concentration 7 24 32
Diplomacy 1 1 9
Disable Device n/a 32 40
Haggle 1 8 16
Heal 6 11.5 19.5
Hide 4 12 20
Intimidate 1 1 9
Jump 6 14 22
Listen 2 12 22
Move Silently 4 7 15
Open Lock n/a n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a n/a
Repair 7 12 20
Search 7 33 43
Spellcraft 11 33 41
Spot 2 2 12
Swim 5 6 14
Tumble 5 5 13
Use Magic Device 3 14 22

Level 1 (Cleric)
Feat: (Deity) Favored by Amaunator
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Conjuration


Level 3 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment


Level 4 (Wizard)


Level 5 (Wizard)


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell


Level 7 (Wizard)


Level 8 (Wizard)


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration


Level 10 (Wizard)


Level 11 (Wizard)


Level 12 (Wizard)


Level 13 (Wizard)


Level 14 (Wizard)


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration


Level 16 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell


Level 17 (Wizard)


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes


Level 19 (Rogue)


Level 20 (Rogue)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Spell Penetration


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Toughness


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Ruin


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Hellball
Enhancement: Morninglord - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Sun Elf Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Sun Elf Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Keen Senses (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Keen Senses (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Keen Senses (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcane Fluidity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcane Fluidity (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcane Fluidity (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Enchantment Lore (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Enchantment Lore (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Enchantment Lore (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Nothing is Hidden (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Nothing is Hidden (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Nothing is Hidden (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcanum (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcanum (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcanum (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Feywild Tap (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Feywild Tap (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Feywild Tap (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Fey Sight (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Enchantment I: Hypnotism (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Enchantment II: Otto's Resistible Dance (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Enchantment III: Hold Person (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Enchantment IV: Charm Monster (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Subtle Spellcasting (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Subtle Spellcasting (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Subtle Spellcasting (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Energy of the Scholar (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Energy of the Scholar (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Elemental and Force I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Elemental and Force II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Spell Penetration (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Spell Penetration (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Spell Penetration (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Elemental and Force III (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Primary Spell Focus: Enchantment (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Elemental and Force IV (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Arcane Supremacy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Primary Spell Focus: Enchantment (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Secondary Spell Focus: Conjuration (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Dark Reaping (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Zombie (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Vampire (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 3)

Wh070aa
11-21-2014, 04:43 AM
Okay, here we go.
You don't take 18 levels of wizard for litch form, that (w improved shroud) gives you +4 int, giving you +2 dc to all. Vampire makes you REALLY weak against light damage, and every divine caster shoots lazer beams, or the light nuke ting.
17 levels of wizard means -3 spell pen, and with build this spell pen dependent, its kinda bad. Drow and demons will hurt.
12 con means you probably gonna get wrecked hard, especially w/ vampire. Why the STR, and dex investment? Are you planing on going melee on 12 con character? In that case take some Harper enchantments. they give you Int to hit and damage.

If you go less than 20 wizard, I would recommend getting past life for spell pen (and extra DC). Its not absolutely necessary, but its really nice to have against some stuff.
Take rouge level earlier, so you get more umd. Dump listen instead. Get more heal from cleric too, as long as you are taking it. Its good for aura, and necrotic ray.Why you take rouge levels, and don't get any trapping skills? That's like +30% xp in most quests.

Pro tips- failed instakills give negative levels. Circle of death is good for this. Also use the clouds and fogs, as long as you hold stuff.
This is mostly party oriented build, as you wont have enough spell points to do damage for extended periods of time. Also its nearly useless in party, unless the party consists of melees, who focus on sneak attacking helpless enemies.
I really hate enchantment speced wizard, as its really tedious and boring to play. Test it out, before TRing into one. I made similar character, and deleted it. So did other 2 guys I know.

What are you doing for damage? What are you doing for immune/resistant enemies(undead, constructs, (some vermin, Demons and drow), red named)?
Lets say for example you meet undead divine caster. You gotta Ether one shot them before the can cast 1 spell or...
1) drop form (and probably get negative levels)
2)Nuke down.
3)reapply form(loose spell points, that you don't have that much off, unless you got uber gear), to be able to heal (or umd heal, w 12 con)
Repeat at least 4 times per each quest that has them in.

Also the enhants you take on PM are really bad. you are better off with neg energy crits, skeleton pet (lever pulls, and you can hide behind him from some spells), and extra Hp from Deathless Vigor.

Also you were going non shrouded vampire? That's 3X incoming light damage, meaning you die each time you see divine caster, or anything with light spells really. You are better off just umd healing.

Oliphant
11-21-2014, 05:38 AM
Thanks Wh070aa

Here's a focused necro attempt with a 18wiz/2cleric split, lichform


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The Abyssian
Level 28 True Neutral Morninglord Male
(2 Cleric \ 18 Wizard \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 380
Spell Points: 1906
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 9
Will: 15

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 14 18
Dexterity 12 16
Constitution 14 18
Intelligence 20 34
Wisdom 8 12
Charisma 8 12

Tomes Used
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+4 Tome of Charisma used at level 1

Level 1 (Cleric)
Feat: (Deity) Favored by Amaunator
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Necromancy


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Enchantment


Level 3 (Wizard)


Level 4 (Wizard)


Level 5 (Wizard)


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration


Level 7 (Wizard)


Level 8 (Wizard)


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell


Level 10 (Wizard)


Level 11 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell


Level 12 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration


Level 13 (Wizard)


Level 14 (Wizard)


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy


Level 16 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell


Level 17 (Wizard)


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment


Level 19 (Wizard)


Level 20 (Cleric)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Spell Penetration


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Toughness


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Ruin


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Hellball
Enhancement: Morninglord - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Sun Elf Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcane Fluidity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcane Fluidity (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcane Fluidity (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcanum (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcanum (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcanum (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Dark Reaping (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Zombie (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Vampire (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Wraith (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Lich (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Skeletal Knight (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Skeletal Knight (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Skeletal Knight (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Corpsecrafter (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Corpsecrafter (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Corpsecrafter (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy III (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Eternal Servitude (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Eternal Servitude (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Eternal Servitude (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Dark Furor (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Dark Furor (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Dark Furor (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Necromantic Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Improved Shrouding (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Divine Emissary of Darkness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Negative (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Negative (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spell Critical: Negative (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spell Penetration (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spell Penetration (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spell Penetration (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Necromancy I: Chill Touch (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Subtle Spellcasting (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Subtle Spellcasting (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Subtle Spellcasting (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Energy of the Scholar (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Energy of the Scholar (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Energy of the Scholar (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Spell Penetration (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Spell Penetration (Rank 2)

Wh070aa
11-22-2014, 04:01 AM
Okay. I would switch maximize and necro focus around, as you get more use of maximize and necromancy is nearly useless before level 12 or so.
Same with enchantment and heighten or empower, but that does not mater as much.
You invest only first 2 point in skeleton. anything more is waste of points, as it gives no benefit (you heal skeleton with aura, and it does no real damage anyway).
Take the discount to meta magics instead.
Also take more archmage, and probably not necromancy archmage, as it doesn't give you anything good, unless you invest 30+ points.
If you are not taking the +1 school DC's from archmage I recommend Ilusion (free blurr and displacement, invisibility, jump) or transmutation (free haste,jump, and knock). Conjuration gives web, and enchntment gives hypnosis.
Also If taking free buff's from archmage, I recommend extend, as it's free double duration on the buffs (and not free on death aura), but that's optional.

Only problem now is survival (14 con, no evasion), and still immune enemies (enemies that are immune tho death spells are immune to holds too), but it probably be okay, if you take disintegrate, firewall and stuff. Still cleric and pale master has ok synergy.

Also you can possibly use harm/inflict Wounds scrolls/wands (you can buy inflict scrolls, and find wands and harm scrolls). If you take the 75% umd thing, you can get more burst healing, if needed (you probably wont need it, but its an option).
Overall ok build, less skeleton, more archmage.
Also the archmage capstone gives +2 int(you gotta log out and log back in, its buggy as hell, and not shown in description) , so you can take it instead of PM capstone, and still have same(or higher) DC.

Oliphant
11-22-2014, 06:21 PM
Very helpful, detailed advice, much appreciated Wh070aa.

Here's my latest attempt. I'll probably start building this toon today. I tried to sequence out the 1-15 feats better for others that might use the ideas for a non-iconic, but I'm not sure it's optimized for lowbie content. It won't matter much to me what happens before level 14 (I start my iconics holding level 15). The name Abyssian is associated with maxing spell penetration, as in the depths of the abyss, and I want to hold to that concept for flavor. The name came to mind because of a classic reggae group The Abyssians, which is also a reference to African history. I list my past lives so I get my 36 ability points but my PL feats are not particularly relevant to this build.


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The Abyssian
Level 28 True Neutral Morninglord Male
(2 Cleric \ 18 Wizard \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 408
Spell Points: 1914
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 8
Will: 15

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28) (Level 28)
Strength 10 14 14
Dexterity 10 14 14
Constitution 16 20 20
Intelligence 20 31 34
Wisdom 8 12 12
Charisma 8 12 12

Tomes Used
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+4 Tome of Charisma used at level 1

Level 1 (Cleric)
Feat: (Deity) Favored by Amaunator
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Charm
Feat: (Automatic) Inscribe Wizard Scroll


Level 3 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip


Level 4 (Wizard)


Level 5 (Wizard)


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Heroic Durability


Level 7 (Wizard)


Level 8 (Wizard)


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration


Level 10 (Wizard)


Level 11 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell


Level 12 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Necromancy


Level 13 (Wizard)


Level 14 (Wizard)


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration


Level 16 (Wizard)


Level 17 (Wizard)


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy


Level 19 (Wizard)


Level 20 (Cleric)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Spell Penetration


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Toughness


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Ruin


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Hellball
Enhancement: Morninglord - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Sun Elf Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcane Fluidity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcane Fluidity (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcane Fluidity (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcanum (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcanum (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcanum (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Divine Emissary of Darkness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Negative (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Negative (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spell Critical: Negative (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spell Penetration (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spell Penetration (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spell Penetration (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Dark Reaping (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Zombie (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Vampire (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Wraith (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Lich (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Skeletal Knight (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Efficient Maximize (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Efficient Maximize (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Efficient Maximize (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy III (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Necromantic Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Improved Shrouding (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Illusion I: Invisibility (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Illusion II: Blur (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Illusion III: Displacement (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Subtle Spellcasting (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Subtle Spellcasting (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Subtle Spellcasting (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Energy of the Scholar (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Energy of the Scholar (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Spell Penetration (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Spell Penetration (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Eldritch Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Spellsword: Flame (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Toughness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Battlemage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Light Armor Proficiency (Rank 1)

Wh070aa
11-23-2014, 04:16 AM
Forgot this was iconic. Feats sequence is fine then.
I would replace arcane fluidity with

Rejuvenation of Dawn (healing teammates/negative levels/stuns) and Blessing of Amaunator(temp hp, and spell resist), Feywild Tap is also worth considering (incorp + displacement is sweet, and extra spell points are good to have, if you don't have items, and Enchantment Lore (if taken fullly) is not complete waste of points), but is extra investment, and points are tight.

Since I don't use light(?) armor, but if you use armor, its ok. I use Robe of Shadow, form marbar, as its really good for necromancer (its +necromancy DC,spell power, Critical, and chance to get healed when hit, and nigtshield clicky).

But that's personal preference, and depends on gear you have.

Have you taught about your spell layout/witch damage gear you gonna use/switch out? Also remember to check rare scroll list when taking levels and spells. Some really good spells are hard to come by, up to a point where some wizard players stack their banks with rare scrolls, even when not planing to use them anytime soon.

Also Consider Divine Healing(with maxed heal skill, its really good regeneration effect, as it gives up to 4d4 hp per heal skill, every 2 seconds (duration = heal skill) Poor scaling tho, healing amp only), and Divine Vitality(infinite ally spell points), if playing with other people. (Endless Turning from Divine Crusader, tier 1 twist). While these are sub optimal, they are great if playing in static group, and people that have problems with hp or sp (and doesn't have other, competent clerics, or access to plat for potions). Not really worth taking in my opinion, but it's an option.

You played sorcerer before, so you probably be ok, but the spell casting and cool downs on wizard are noticeably slower (seriously some cool downs are like 10 to 30 seconds longer) Cast times without quicken are kinda suck too.

Anyhow good luck playing!

Oliphant
12-05-2014, 02:12 AM
I'm finding DCs are failing more than spell pen so I'm trying to max my necro DC with PM investment and intelligence.


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The Abyssian
Level 28 True Neutral Morninglord Male
(2 Cleric \ 18 Wizard \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 380
Spell Points: 1796
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 9
Will: 15

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28) (Level 28)
Strength 14 18 18
Dexterity 12 16 16
Constitution 14 18 18
Intelligence 20 33 43
Wisdom 8 12 12
Charisma 8 12 12

Tomes Used
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+4 Tome of Charisma used at level 1

Level 1 (Cleric)
Feat: (Deity) Favored by Amaunator
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Necromancy


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Enchantment


Level 3 (Wizard)


Level 4 (Wizard)


Level 5 (Wizard)


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration


Level 7 (Wizard)


Level 8 (Wizard)


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell


Level 10 (Wizard)


Level 11 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell


Level 12 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration


Level 13 (Wizard)


Level 14 (Wizard)


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy


Level 16 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell


Level 17 (Wizard)


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment


Level 19 (Wizard)


Level 20 (Cleric)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Spell Penetration


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Great Intelligence


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Toughness


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Great Intelligence


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Hellball
Enhancement: Morninglord - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Sun Elf Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Sun Elf Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcane Fluidity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcane Fluidity (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcane Fluidity (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcanum (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcanum (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcanum (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Dark Reaping (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Zombie (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Vampire (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Wraith (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Lich (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Skeletal Knight (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy III (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy IV (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Necromantic Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Improved Shrouding (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Eldritch Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Spellsword: Flame (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Spellsword: Frost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Spellsword: Shock (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Mage Armor (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Mage Armor (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Mage Armor (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Toughness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Toughness (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Item Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Item Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Shield (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Shield (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Shield (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Light Armor Proficiency (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Arcane Barrier (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Arcane Barrier (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Arcane Barrier (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Medium Armor Proficiency (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Illusion I: Invisibility (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Subtle Spellcasting (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Subtle Spellcasting (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Subtle Spellcasting (Rank 3)