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butlerfamilywa
10-30-2014, 05:00 AM
Ok, so I've decided one of my toons needs a paladin life.

Tomes: +5 cha, +3 wis, and +4 for the rest.
Past Lives: Fighter, Ranger, Monk, Artificer, and Bard

I'm planning dwarf as I don't want to grind bastard swords, this is only a 1-20 build, and I don't want to waste points on a +1 heart. Pure 20 Paladin Required.

Here is the basic outline I have so far. If you can point me in the right direction, that would be greatly appreciated.


Starting Stats ~ These could use some tweaking, all 5 level up's into Strength (For Now)

Str: 14 (With Tomes, enough for full THF lines)
Dex: 14
Con: 14 (I'm not going for throw your weight around)
Int: 13 *Enough points with a +4 tome to max Concentration, Heal, UMD, and Intimidate, with 4 points (1 rank each) in Tumble and Perform.
Wis: 10
Cha: 15

If I lowered my starting Charisma 1 point, that would free up 3 build points, letting me raise my Str by 1, and having 1 build point left over... all thoughts..


Feats: These are changeable too.. As a Dwarf

01:Shield Mastery
03: Power Attack
06: Two-Handed Fighting
09: Improved Critical: Slashing
12: Improved Shield Mastery
15: Improved Two-Handed Fighting
18: Greater Two-Handed Fighting
21: Overwhelming Criticals
24: ***Improved Shield Bash*** I can't decide what to put here really, so 20% shield bashing it is.
26: Perfect Two-Handed Fighting
27: Blinding Speed
28: Holy Strikes

These are all up for changing, but it is the basic idea of what I'm wanting to do...

I can use Master's Touch scrolls to use Tower Shields, so not needing to waste a feat on that.


Play style will be sword and board, dragging piles of monsters and swinging away with my axe... all heroic, elite to level 16+ then all hard content as I don't have the greatest gear, just a lot of play time invested over many characters.

FuzzyDuck81
10-30-2014, 05:39 AM
You mentioned being only a 1-20 build for the past life, but specced out the feats up to 28? :) Also, any particular reason for staying pure besides flavour if you aren't going to be running much at all with the capstone?

Overall, i'd say it looks pretty good as-is, though my personal tweaks would be to stick improved shield bash at level 3, PA at level 6, leave imp crit where it is & shunt the other 2hf feats upwards - glancing blows won't do so much in the lower to mid levels, but vanguard is about making shields really powerful offensive weapons, make the most of that by getting more bashes asap.

If you use cannith crafting, a spiked shield of bashing can be pretty tasty for low to mid levels and if you're willing to splash out the shield fragments Talon will keep you going comfortably from level 14 to 20 with a great damage profile - basic level 15 wall of wood is a pretty nice one too & easy to get. Carved bone shield, dalorent's seal & ward of undeath could also be worth looking into.

cru121
10-30-2014, 06:52 AM
Str: 14 (With Tomes, enough for full THF lines)
Dex: 14
Con: 14 (I'm not going for throw your weight around)
Int: 13 *Enough points with a +4 tome to max Concentration, Heal, UMD, and Intimidate, with 4 points (1 rank each) in Tumble and Perform.
Wis: 10
Cha: 15

i'd go with 10 points in STR/CON/CHA: 16 str. 18 con. 14 cha.
8 dex. 12 int. 8 wis. 2 left for personal preferences.
perhaps int and pick up some spellcraft from Divine Crusader if you decide to continue in epics.

unbongwah
10-30-2014, 01:34 PM
Ugh, Firefox or the forum ate my first reply, so this time you just get my recommended build without commentary:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.23.01
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Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Female
(20 Paladin)
Hit Points: 340
Spell Points: 318
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 13
Will: 12

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 17 26
Dexterity 8 12
Constitution 16 20
Intelligence 12 16
Wisdom 8 11
Charisma 15 20

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 10
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 10
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 10
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 10
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 10
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 10
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 14
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 14
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 14
+4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 14
+4 Tome of Charisma used at level 14
+5 Tome of Charisma used at level 18

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance -1 6
Bluff 2 5
Concentration 5 28
Diplomacy 2 5
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 2 5
Heal -1 15
Hide -1 1
Intimidate 6 28
Jump 3 8
Listen -1 0
Move Silently -1 1
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a 6
Repair 1 4
Search 1 6
Spellcraft 1 3
Spot -1 0
Swim 3 8
Tumble 0 2
Use Magic Device 4 17

Level 1 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 3 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)


Level 5 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 7 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 9 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery


Level 10 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 11 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 14 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+3)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 17 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 19 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - To the Fore! (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Combat (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Vicious Shield (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Combat II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Vicious Shield II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Champion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Specialization I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Smash (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Smash (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Smash (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Stunning Shield (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Stunning Shield (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Stunning Shield (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Missile Shield (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Missile Shield (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Missile Shield (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Action Boost: Melee Power (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Action Boost: Melee Power (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Action Boost: Melee Power (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Follow Up (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Follow Up (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Follow Up (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Fatal Bulwark (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Charge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Charge (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Charge (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Myrmidon's Edge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Myrmidon's Edge (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Myrmidon's Edge (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield to the Face (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Disorienting Smash (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Disorienting Smash (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Rush (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Rush (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Rush (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Armored Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Slayer of Evil I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Slayer of Evil II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Empowered Smite (Rank 1)