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Failedlegend
10-14-2014, 11:24 PM
So due to some recent events in my life I've had to miss several weeks with my static group so I've fallen behind, to remedy this I'm going to make an Iconic. My role was a self-healing tank before (Cleric12/Paladin6/Fighter2 S&B Dwarf) so I'd like to maintain that but with the option for heavy armor to apply to Sacred Defender and Paladins high saves I don't think I'll need the extra mitigation of the shield so I'm going great sword also due to HS/Zeals improvements (and the overall lameness of the RS tree aside from the healing aura) I'm dropping the cleric levels and boosting my Pally levels to 15.

Currently my plan is PDK Pally 15/Sorc3/Fighter2 with a focus on Con/Cha with a decent strength allowing for a pretty awesome Tactics DC (str mod + 1/3 cha mod w/ Greatsword as long as Str is lower than Cha) and gaining some awesome AC/PRR boosts and some extra SP (+10% from items and increased SP from cha mod) not to mention magical training.

Other classes I looked at are either alignment restricted (Barb,Bard, Druid) or not very useful (Arty,Monk,Ranger,Rogue) except for FvS which it was a debate between EK and WP but EK won simply for being cheaper AP wise and a bit less dead weight to get it. (EK is an AWFUL prestige tree but it makes for a decent splash)

That said if anyone sees any synergy I may have missed please let me know

Sidenote:Honestly if it weren't for the Iconics forced 1st level I'd likely go Pally15/Sorc3/FvS2 but I refuse to spend turbine points on an LR to fix a restriction that imo should not exist.



Lawful Good PDK "Enchanted Blade" Pally15/Sorc3/Fighter2 (KotC32-36/SD26-30/Kensai11/EK4/PDK3)

Str 15 (15 required for THF line)
Dex 8
Con 14
Int 13 (13 needed for CE)
Wis 8
Cha 17 (Lvl ups here)

Skills: Intim, Heal, Concen, Balance

Level Order: Fighter 1, Paladin 2 - 16, Sorc 17 - 19, Fighter 20

H1 THF
F1 Stunning Blow
1 Toughness
3 Combat Expertise
6 Improved Trip
9 IC:Slashing
12 Empowered Healing
15 ITHF
18 SF:Intim, WF: Slashing or FoP
F20 GTHF
ED Unyielding Sentinel
21 Bulwark of Defense
24 Overwhelming Critical
26 PTHF
27 Blinding Speed or Epic DR
28 Tactician

Xandez
10-15-2014, 03:31 AM
Ok, so why sorc?
Why not wizard? You get the same EK tree + free metamagic feat.

And while were at it, why not consider 15pal/1wiz/4fig (for even more feats).
Imo the EK enchantments are not that good vs AP cost. Or you could get the 4fvs (and cough that LR ofc) to gain access for ameliorating strike [_free_ healing, yay].

Or you could make the 15pal/1wiz/4cle and take Morninglord as starter race (that is if you have access to it)

Failedlegend
10-15-2014, 08:22 AM
Ok, so why sorc?
Why not wizard? You get the same EK tree + free metamagic feat.

And while were at it, why not consider 15pal/1wiz/4fig (for even more feats).

Mainly cause I don't really need the extra feats and Sorc = Cha Wiz = Int....I'm going to have a MASSIVE Cha may as well reap the extra SP of which Paladin has very little



Imo the EK enchantments are not that good vs AP cost.


Yes 85.3% of the enhancements are not which is why I only spend 10ap (of 68) in EK for +10% AC, +10 PRR, another cleave, +1d6 damage, +10 HP

Edit: Actually make that 4-6ap for +10% AC, Eldritch Strike and possibly +1d6 damage (depending on KotC, the builder is outdated unfortunately)

As I said it's a TERRIBLE prestige class, just has some nice low hanging fruit for splashes and since Pally's are limited on splashes it's one of the better splashes.



Or you could get the 4fvs (and cough that LR ofc) to gain access for ameliorating strike [_free_ healing, yay].


This one though was actually my original plan (That is Pally15/FvS4/Fighter1) but despite A-strike being pretty freaking awesome and wall of steel being the same as EKs improved shield unfortunately it takes at LEAST 22AP to pick up A-strike, alot of which will be "dead" AP since most of the WP enhancements are useless to the build (ie. I already have divine might, my favored weapon is maces, not greatswords) and I just don't have that many AP to spare after I take what I want in Sacred and KotC whereas Sorc EK only takes 10ap.



Or you could make the 15pal/1wiz/4cle and take Morninglord as starter race (that is if you have access to it)

I could but it would be entirely different build as I'd lose Cha to atk/damage and and "gain" a penalty to Con and honestly whilst MLs have alot of cool enhancements this build is REALLY tight on APs with KOTC going up to tier 5, Sacred up to tier 4 and 10+ AP in EK and Kensai.

That all said I'm open to suggestions on this front...I'd likely switch back to S&B (well mace & board) so I could actually wield my weapon of choice...the build would obviously be Str/Con based with an ok Cha, dex with still be fairly irrelevant although I'd also want an ok Wisdom as I'd probably go Divine Crusader with this version with a focus on Fire & Positive spellpower (again a case for 1 sorc instead of 1 wiz due to fire savant) instead of the PDKs Force/Pos spellpower.

This could also work with Bladeforged except remaining with greatsword actually bladeforged might be better than ML w/ bonus to Con and irrelevant penalty to dex.

I need to consider this but please continued feedback on the PDK version will be much appreciated as at the moment I'm still going with that just considering ML or BF alternatives.