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forumname1
08-08-2014, 10:00 PM
Hey people of the forums! I was fooling around on the ddo character planner, and I have always wanted to make a kick ass bard. So I did a little research and I decided to play around with the bard class a little bit. I made this build and I was wondering if it would be a viable endgame build. Constructive criticism would be great.


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02
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Favored Bard
Level 28 True Neutral Human Male
(18 Bard \ 2 Favored Soul \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 449
Spell Points: 1838
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 15
Will: 24

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28) (Level 28)
Strength 13 16 16
Dexterity 12 12 12
Constitution 14 20 20
Intelligence 8 8 8
Wisdom 8 8 8
Charisma 17 26 30



Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 28) (Level 28)
Balance 5 22 30
Bluff 3 10 18
Concentration 6 28 36
Diplomacy 3 10 18
Disable Device n/a n/a n/a
Haggle 7 31 39
Heal -1 -1 7
Hide 1 1 9
Intimidate 3 10 18
Jump 2 3 11
Listen -1 -1 7
Move Silently 1 1 9
Open Lock n/a n/a n/a
Perform 7 32 40
Repair -1 -1 7
Search -1 -1 7
Spellcraft 3 22 30
Spot -1 -1 7
Swim 2 3 11
Tumble n/a n/a n/a
Use Magic Device 7 30 38

Level 1 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Perform (+4)
Skill: Spellcraft (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
Spell (1): Master's Touch


Level 2 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host
Spell (1): Bless
Spell (1): Remove Fear


Level 3 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Focusing Chant
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Smite Foe (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 3)


Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Blur
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds


Level 6 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
Spell (1): Hypnotism
Spell (2): Hold Person


Level 7 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Skaldic Rage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Fighting Spirit (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Song of Heroism (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspired Bravery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspired Bravery (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspired Bravery (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Enchant Weapon (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Boast (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Boast (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Boast (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Ironskin Chant (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Ironskin Chant (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Ironskin Chant (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - High Spirits (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CON
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Rage
Spell (3): Deep Slumber
Spell (3): Displacement


Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Spell (3): Haste


Level 10 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 11 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Otto's Sphere of Dancing
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (3): Charm Monster


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CON
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement


Level 13 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 14 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (5): Mass Suggestion
Spell (5): Greater Heroism
Spell (4): Break Enchantment


Level 15 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
Spell (5): Mind Fog


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 17 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors
Spell (6): Otto's Irresistible Dance
Spell (6): Mass Charm Monster


Level 18 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
Spell (2): Invisibility
Spell (6): Heroes Feast


Level 19 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (3): Good Hope


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Spell (1): Shield of Faith
Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Spell Power Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Attack Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spellsinger (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Music of the Sewers (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Music of the Dead (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Haunting Melody (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Haunting Melody (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Haunting Melody (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Magical Studies (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Magical Studies (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Yellow Marigold Crown (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Enthrallment (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Fighting Spirit (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Victory Song (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Gathering Cold (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Gathering Cold (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Gathering Cold (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspire Recklessness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspire Recklessness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspire Recklessness (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - High Spirits (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - High Spirits (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Armorer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rallying Cry (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rallying Cry (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rallying Cry (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Howl of the North (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Toughness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Toughness (Rank 3)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Inspire Excellence


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: CHA
Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Lasting Inspiration


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Mental Toughness


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: CHA
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: First Blood




Now obviously most of your damage would come from divine might. Is this viable?

Scrabbler
08-08-2014, 10:46 PM
feat summary: toughness, extend, GrCleave, MT, IMT, FOP.


Now obviously most of your damage would come from divine might.
By that Divine Might comment, you mean you'll do a lot of melee. But you have zero AP invested in the Bard melee tree, which is Swashbuckler. That does not compute.

If you want to melee as a Bard, you get the SWF feats and put at least 7 AP into Swashbuckler. Every Bard should put at least 7 AP in Swash anyhow, just for the running speed.

ThomasHunter
08-09-2014, 11:57 AM
I had a similar idea, but it would be a Warchanter and a STR build. I'm thinking if you are going CHR for damage then you have zero reason to splash Favored Soul. Seems like you would then stay pure.

I'm still leaning towards the 2 splash on a Warchanter. I also agree that getting the run speed enhancement is pretty worthwhile!

HatsuharuZ
08-09-2014, 12:10 PM
One small problem with your build... why are you putting points into spellcraft? Bards get it as a class skill, but it has no effect on any of their spells. I would suggest switching from spellcraft to heal, instead.

Scrabbler
08-09-2014, 02:00 PM
I would suggest switching from spellcraft to heal, instead.
Yes it's important to put priority on Heal skill, but I would recommend Spellcraft above some of the other places he's sticking skillpoints (like Diplomacy, Bluff, and even a bit of Swim). He'll eventually spend some time in Epic Destinies that grant attacks which benefit from Spellcraft.