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painkiller3
07-30-2014, 11:50 AM
Durable DPS int-based build with lots of spell power. assassinate DC will be little low with only 13 levels of rogue, but it's only once every 15 seconds...the doublestrike, extra crit/range, etc should make up for it :)

16 dex, 14 con, 18 int
All level ups to int
+5 dex tome for 21 dex for epic sneak attack
Use short swords +to damage from vulkoor and fvs tree
ameliorating strike and prr and + damage from war priest
+to hit and damage for int and swashbuckler stance and usage if bucklers from swashbuckler tree
+short sword damage from drow tree
Load up assassin tree

feats
1 - insightful reflexes
3 - single weapon fighting
6 - shield mastery
9 - improved single weapon fighting
12 - improved critical : piercing
15 - greater single weapon fighting
18 - improved shield mastery
21- epic sneak attack (need +5 tome)
24 - dodge
26 - perfect swf
27- blinding speed
28 - perfect twf

I couldn't fit in precision (unless I was human but would miss all the short sword bonuses including spell implement) but precision isn't as great with only 3 tier swashbuckler . And I like the prr and double├čtrike from shield mastery feats. I think the dps will be pretty good and should have lots of skills for traps and int from assassinate.

my original plan was just 17 rogue/3 bard human, but extra bonuses to short swords, prr, periodic ameliorating strike and spell implement from fvs seemed too interesting to pass up.

unbongwah
07-30-2014, 12:24 PM
Why are you going INT-based on this build? You mention Assassinate, but you will be at least -8 DCs behind pure rogues (7 from non-rogue lvls, 1 from not having +2 INT from Assassin capstone). Considering how much I've seen some pure Assassins gripe about their DCs, it sounds like you're "building to fail." Particularly since two more bard lvls would give you a more reliable instakill, Coup de Grace. Plus it doesn't seem to make sense to go INT-based on a melee build with Div Might and +2 base CHA.

painkiller3
07-30-2014, 02:50 PM
getting 5 levels of bard would get rid of the favoured soul then, the epic sneak damage is (almost) a must...guess i could try 12 rogue/5 bard/3 fvs (or 13 rogue/5 bard/2 fvs) and just take the prr and miss out on amerliorating which may be better...off to the character builder!

Llewndyn
07-30-2014, 02:58 PM
All builds that aren't helf rogue cleric dilly thief acrobat arcane archers are gimp!

I have it on good authority that that build works ;)

Sloene
07-30-2014, 03:01 PM
Try wiz instead of fvs, the double strike prr and little bits from eldritch knight all stack and a couple of other nice little bonus's

painkiller3
07-30-2014, 04:04 PM
Try wiz instead of fvs, the double strike prr and little bits from eldritch knight all stack and a couple of other nice little bonus's

I want to keep the FVS for short sword implement and PRR but will takea look at that as well

i wonder if 13 rogue (for imp evasion, epic sneak attack, opportunist), 5 bard (coup d'grace and other goodies including CHA damage), 2 FVS (spellcast implement, +2 to vulkoor weapon shortsword)


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 24 Chaotic Neutral Drow Male
(13 Rogue \ 5 Bard \ 2 Favored Soul \ 4 Epic)
Hit Points: 267
Spell Points: 580
BAB: 13\13\18\23
Fortitude: 10
Reflex: 20
Will: 11

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 24)
Strength 8 10
Dexterity 16 21
Constitution 12 14
Intelligence 14 16
Wisdom 8 10
Charisma 18 29

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6
+5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 24)
Balance 7 27
Bluff 7 16
Concentration 1 8
Diplomacy 4 13
Disable Device 6 30
Haggle 4 13
Heal 1 22
Hide 3 9
Intimidate 4 15
Jump 3 13
Listen -1 9
Move Silently 3 9
Open Lock 7 23
Perform 6 36
Repair 2 7
Search 6 35
Spellcraft 2 7
Spot 3 32
Swim -1 4
Tumble 4 10
Use Magic Device 8 36

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Single Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Bard)


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge


Level 4 (Bard)


Level 5 (Bard)


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery


Level 7 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of Vulkoor


Level 8 (Favored Soul)


Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Precision


Level 10 (Rogue)


Level 11 (Rogue)


Level 12 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Single Weapon Fighting


Level 13 (Rogue)


Level 14 (Rogue)


Level 15 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons


Level 16 (Rogue)


Level 17 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion


Level 18 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Single Weapon Fighting


Level 19 (Rogue)


Level 20 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Improved Sneak Attack


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery
Enhancement: Drow - Spell Resistance (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Drow - Drow Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Drow - Keen Senses (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Drow - Keen Senses (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Drow - Keen Senses (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Drow - Xen'drik Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Drow - Xen'drik Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Drow - Improved Dodge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Drow - Improved Dodge (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Drow - Improved Dodge (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Drow - Xen'drik Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Drow - Xen'drik Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Knife in the Darkness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Shiv (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Shiv (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Damage Boost (Rank 1)
36 points of swashbuckler enhancements not on builder
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Smite Foe (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Toughness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Toughness (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Righteous Weapons (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Wall of Steel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Wall of Steel (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Wall of Steel (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Righteous Weapons (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Font of Power (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Angelic Resistance (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Angelic Resistance (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Inquisition (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Inquisition (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Articles of Faith (Rank 1)




this is more along the lines of what iw as thinking except being a much better assassin than being in the assassin tree...thanks for the tips unbongwa...any other thoughts?