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Feithlin
07-27-2014, 03:28 PM
I just bought Druid and would like to try a wolf. The problem is I know next to nothing about druids, so I would need some advices.

Here is some builds I have been thinking about (all have evasion, even if ref saves will probably not cut it in highest difficulties):

Human Ra11/D8/M1 - Uses full TWF in conjunction with SWF, but looses natural fighting.
Heroic Feats: SWF x 3, PA, AoF, MoF, IC, Emp. healing.

Human Ra11/D9 - Full TWF, full SWF, full natural fighting, but no flurry of blows.
Heroic Feats: SWF x 3, PA, IC, Natural fighting x 3.

Human D12/Ra6/M2 - Finally could slot everything but only if I can get gTWF (not sure how it behaves once you have SWF) since it won't be auto granted by ranger levels.
Heroic Feats: SWF x 3, PA, IC, Natural fighting x 3, gTWF, Emp. healing.

Human D15/Ra3/M2 - Same, but this time it has access to Heal and EQ (DC will probably not be enough on highest difficulties).
Heroic Feats: SWF x 3, iTWF, gTWF, PA, IC, Natural fighting x 3.

On the paper, the last seems to be the best, but I probably have missed things. Which would be better on your opinion, or would another wolf build be better and (most importantly) why?

*Edit: Epic feats would most likely be dedicated to get Master of Form if the build has some monk levels.

Aziraphale88
07-28-2014, 09:53 AM
I just bought Druid and would like to try a wolf. The problem is I know next to nothing about druids, so I would need some advices.

Here is some builds I have been thinking about (all have evasion, even if ref saves will probably not cut it in highest difficulties):

Human Ra11/D8/M1 - Uses full TWF in conjunction with SWF, but looses natural fighting.
Heroic Feats: SWF x 3, PA, AoF, MoF, IC, Emp. healing.

Human Ra11/D9 - Full TWF, full SWF, full natural fighting, but no flurry of blows.
Heroic Feats: SWF x 3, PA, IC, Natural fighting x 3.

Human D12/Ra6/M2 - Finally could slot everything but only if I can get gTWF (not sure how it behaves once you have SWF) since it won't be auto granted by ranger levels.
Heroic Feats: SWF x 3, PA, IC, Natural fighting x 3, gTWF, Emp. healing.

Human D15/Ra3/M2 - Same, but this time it has access to Heal and EQ (DC will probably not be enough on highest difficulties).
Heroic Feats: SWF x 3, iTWF, gTWF, PA, IC, Natural fighting x 3.

On the paper, the last seems to be the best, but I probably have missed things. Which would be better on your opinion, or would another wolf build be better and (most importantly) why?

*Edit: Epic feats would most likely be dedicated to get Master of Form if the build has some monk levels.

From what I was told in other topics, you can't actually take twf feats after you have swf. So ranger 6 autogrants itwf and you can't take gtwf.

I'm actually going to make 12/6/2. I don't think you can actually get nat fighting x3 before lvl 24 and still get all the swf feats. you just don't qualify for feats in time. nat fighting is druid 9, imp crit needs bab 8, and gswf needs bab 11.

I'm going human and probably something like

monk2/druid12/ranger6 in that order.

1 power attack/cleave/stunning fist
2 swf
3 empower healing
6 great cleave
9 iswf
12 imp crit
15 gswf
18 nat fighting
21 nat fighting (it's probably better than overwhelming critical)
24 nat fighting

Aziraphale88
07-28-2014, 11:30 AM
apparently iswf/gswf and itwf/gtwf are not anti-requisites of each other, so as long as you have swf before ranger 2 you can take whatever.

Feithlin
07-28-2014, 12:10 PM
apparently iswf/gswf and itwf/gtwf are not anti-requisites of each other, so as long as you have swf before ranger 2 you can take whatever.

Excellent, thanks for testing. :)

Aziraphale88
07-28-2014, 01:43 PM
Excellent, thanks for testing. :)

You're welcome for the info, but I can't take credit for the testing. I've been asking the same kind of questions on this forum for the last few days =p