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Gakkyuu
07-24-2014, 09:35 AM
Hey!!

I've finally found a build that looks EXTREMELY fun to play!
I think of building a 12 FTR 6 RGR 2 MNK ELF.
Please someone help me build this or give me a link to a build like this (has to be elf)
From level 1-8 Melee 8-20 Ranged

Thanks!!

nivarch
07-24-2014, 09:56 AM
Hey!!

I've finally found a build that looks EXTREMELY fun to play!
I think of building a 12 FTR 6 RGR 2 MNK ELF.
Please someone help me build this or give me a link to a build like this (has to be elf)
From level 1-8 Melee 8-20 Ranged

Thanks!!

Why this build specifically?

For a bow character, it is always better to go at least 6 monk for 1000k stars.
Something like 12 monk, 6 ranger, 2 fighter is more standard, and probably a lot (a LOT) more powerful.

But if you are looking to play this for flavor reasons more than efficiency that's fine. I just want to make sure you know what you are going for :)

Gakkyuu
07-24-2014, 10:10 AM
Why this build specifically?

For a bow character, it is always better to go at least 6 monk for 1000k stars.
Something like 12 monk, 6 ranger, 2 fighter is more standard, and probably a lot (a LOT) more powerful.

But if you are looking to play this for flavor reasons more than efficiency that's fine. I just want to make sure you know what you are going for :)

Well I grouped up with a guy playing that and it looked really fun but if you help me with just a good ranger build that would be good too

Bridge_Dweller
07-24-2014, 10:19 AM
12 FTR 6 RGR 2 MNK - has not been a good split for a ranged toon since the Helves Angel was viable.

count_spicoli
07-24-2014, 10:47 AM
12 FTR 6 RGR 2 MNK - has not been a good split for a ranged toon since the Helves Angel was viable.

Actually this build can be extremely viable if your looking for being more Melee with a nice ranged option as opposed to a ranged with melee option. With 12 ftr you will be able to be centered with weapon of your choosing and have keen edge with is actually giving +2 to threat right now with any weapon. I did this build and went str and human for the +11 power surge. I used a morn hammer with a Drow hammer of combat mastery for +15 to stunning blow. With this build you should be able to get your str around 80 and have 15 action boosts for human versatility dmg and hastes. Your saves and self healing won't be great with just cocoon and heals scrolls but dps is amazing for ee's. Many shot is nice gravy when ranged is wanted. Not sure what elf brings but suppose you can make that work.

unbongwah
07-24-2014, 11:30 AM
Well I grouped up with a guy playing that and it looked really fun but if you help me with just a good ranger build that would be good too
There are several monkcher builds out there to choose from, each with their pros & cons. Monk 12 / rgr 6 / ftr 2 is still a pretty solid combo, but it is by no means the only option.

Gakkyuu
07-24-2014, 01:07 PM
There are several monkcher builds out there to choose from, each with their pros & cons. Monk 12 / rgr 6 / ftr 2 is still a pretty solid combo, but it is by no means the only option.

Could you help me find one?

nivarch
07-24-2014, 01:18 PM
Could you help me find one?

To make sure we understand what you want.
Are you looking for a Ranged build only?
Or a build that ranges mainly and have a melee fallback?
Or a build that melee mainly and have a ranged fallback.

From your first post I assumed the first option (ranged only).
Based on that reply some we will be able to help you more.
Meanwhile, I advise you to read the wiki posts about Manyshot and 1000k stars, they are the basics of bow builds.

unbongwah
07-24-2014, 01:59 PM
Check out Zendark (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/357819-Zendark-Moncher-Yes-I-can) and Sestra (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/429975-Sestra-s-Build-Thread?p=5378670&viewfull=1#post5378670).

Gakkyuu
07-24-2014, 03:20 PM
Check out Zendark (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/357819-Zendark-Moncher-Yes-I-can) and Sestra (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/429975-Sestra-s-Build-Thread?p=5378670&viewfull=1#post5378670).

The zendark moncher looks like my type of playstyle
i'ts 32-36 pt build though
I only have 28.

unbongwah
07-24-2014, 03:57 PM
28-pt monkcher? Ouch! That is challenging. This is one of the few times I would consider going DEX-based in order to conserve stat pts. Do you have any tomes?

Also check out Santa's Little Slayer (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/431464-Santa-s-Little-Slayer-Another-Elfin-Centered-Kensai). It's a 34-pt build with a bunch of tomes, but it's a lot easier to pull off if you drop the Overwhelming Crit feat; that frees up stat pts from STR. It's not a full-time archer, though, but a mixed melee/ranged toon - rather like Helves Angel was, actually.

Gakkyuu
07-24-2014, 04:00 PM
28-pt monkcher? Ouch! That is challenging. This is one of the few times I would consider going DEX-based in order to conserve stat pts. Do you have any tomes?

Also check out Santa's Little Slayer (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/431464-Santa-s-Little-Slayer-Another-Elfin-Centered-Kensai). It's a 34-pt build with a bunch of tomes, but it's a lot easier to pull off if you drop the Overwhelming Crit feat; that frees up stat pts from STR. It's not a full-time archer, though, but a mixed melee/ranged toon - rather like Helves Angel was, actually.

:/ I really want to play as a monkcher but since i don't have 32 point, I gues it's not going to be any monkcher for me.

Gakkyuu
07-24-2014, 04:08 PM
I found this: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/382630-Is-it-possible-28pt-Monkcher

unbongwah
07-24-2014, 04:09 PM
Never say never, lil' trooper. :cool:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 28 Lawful Neutral Elf Female
(2 Fighter \ 12 Monk \ 6 Ranger \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 312
Spell Points: 140
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 18
Will: 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 12 13
Dexterity 17 21
Constitution 12 12
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 16 23
Charisma 8 8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 17
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 23

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Ranger)


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Shadow
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Precision


Level 5 (Ranger)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 7 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant


Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: WIS


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 10 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light


Level 11 (Monk)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot


Level 13 (Monk)


Level 14 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Ten Thousand Stars


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Fist


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS


Level 17 (Monk)


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Enhancement: Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Enchantment Lore (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Greater Dragonmark of Shadow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Grace (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Skill (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Metalline Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Shock Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Corrosive Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Soul Magic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Frost Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Banishing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Smiting Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Flaming Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Moonbow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arrow of Slaying (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Improved Elemental Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Runebow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Far Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sneak Attack (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sniper Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Stealthy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Stealthy (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Damage Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Shadow Veil (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Fists of Iron (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sting of the Ninja (Rank 1)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Improved Martial Arts


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Combat Archery


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Reflexes


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target


DEX & WIS-based monkcher with elven Grace & using handwraps for melee. I tried to keep the tome reqs as modest as possible; but if you don't have any, then it needs a bit of stat tweaking.

Gakkyuu
07-24-2014, 04:10 PM
Never say never, lil' trooper. :cool:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 28 Lawful Neutral Elf Female
(2 Fighter \ 12 Monk \ 6 Ranger \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 312
Spell Points: 140
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 18
Will: 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 12 13
Dexterity 17 21
Constitution 12 12
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 16 23
Charisma 8 8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 17
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 23

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Ranger)


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Shadow
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Precision


Level 5 (Ranger)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 7 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant


Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: WIS


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 10 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light


Level 11 (Monk)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot


Level 13 (Monk)


Level 14 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Ten Thousand Stars


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Fist


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS


Level 17 (Monk)


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Enhancement: Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Enchantment Lore (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Greater Dragonmark of Shadow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Grace (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Skill (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Metalline Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Shock Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Corrosive Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Soul Magic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Frost Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Banishing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Smiting Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Flaming Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Moonbow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arrow of Slaying (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Improved Elemental Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Runebow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Far Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sneak Attack (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sniper Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Stealthy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Stealthy (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Damage Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Shadow Veil (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Fists of Iron (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sting of the Ninja (Rank 1)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Improved Martial Arts


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Combat Archery


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Reflexes


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target


DEX & WIS-based monkcher with elven Grace & using handwraps for melee. I tried to keep the tome reqs as modest as possible; but if you don't have any, then it needs a bit of stat tweaking.

You made this for me?

Gakkyuu
07-24-2014, 04:12 PM
Never say never, lil' trooper. :cool:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 28 Lawful Neutral Elf Female
(2 Fighter \ 12 Monk \ 6 Ranger \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 312
Spell Points: 140
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 18
Will: 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 12 13
Dexterity 17 21
Constitution 12 12
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 16 23
Charisma 8 8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 17
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 23

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Ranger)


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Shadow
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Precision


Level 5 (Ranger)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 7 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant


Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: WIS


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 10 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light


Level 11 (Monk)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot


Level 13 (Monk)


Level 14 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Ten Thousand Stars


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Fist


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS


Level 17 (Monk)


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Enhancement: Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Enchantment Lore (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Greater Dragonmark of Shadow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Grace (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Skill (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Metalline Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Shock Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Corrosive Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Soul Magic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Frost Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Banishing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Smiting Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Flaming Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Moonbow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arrow of Slaying (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Improved Elemental Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Runebow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Far Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sneak Attack (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sniper Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Stealthy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Stealthy (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Damage Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Shadow Veil (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Fists of Iron (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sting of the Ninja (Rank 1)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Improved Martial Arts


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Combat Archery


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Reflexes


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target


DEX & WIS-based monkcher with elven Grace & using handwraps for melee. I tried to keep the tome reqs as modest as possible; but if you don't have any, then it needs a bit of stat tweaking.


Thanks you dude! You've responded to every single thread i've made! I really appreciate that man.

Thank you!

TheLegendOfAra
07-27-2014, 12:17 AM
Never say never, lil' trooper. :cool:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 28 Lawful Neutral Elf Female
(2 Fighter \ 12 Monk \ 6 Ranger \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 312
Spell Points: 140
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 18
Will: 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 12 13
Dexterity 17 21
Constitution 12 12
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 16 23
Charisma 8 8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 17
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 23

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Ranger)


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Shadow
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Precision


Level 5 (Ranger)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 7 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant


Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: WIS


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 10 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light


Level 11 (Monk)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot


Level 13 (Monk)


Level 14 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Ten Thousand Stars


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Fist


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS


Level 17 (Monk)


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Enhancement: Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Enchantment Lore (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Greater Dragonmark of Shadow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Grace (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Skill (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Metalline Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Shock Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Corrosive Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Soul Magic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Frost Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Banishing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Smiting Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Flaming Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Moonbow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arrow of Slaying (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Improved Elemental Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Runebow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Far Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sneak Attack (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sniper Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Stealthy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Stealthy (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Damage Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Shadow Veil (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Fists of Iron (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sting of the Ninja (Rank 1)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Improved Martial Arts


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Combat Archery


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Reflexes


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target


DEX & WIS-based monkcher with elven Grace & using handwraps for melee. I tried to keep the tome reqs as modest as possible; but if you don't have any, then it needs a bit of stat tweaking.

Just because I'm a horribly biased person, wouldn't a Ranger option be easier stat wise for a 28 point build? :p
I'd even go really simple and just do 11Ranger/9Monk. Could do pretty much everything, and wouldn't have to meet and stat requirements except wis, str(I would assume go for OC), and like 13 dex for precision and 10K stars?

Would get almost all the melee and ranged feats for free at no stat cost freeing up feats for things like stunning fist, empower heal and quicken, since first life maybe skill focus UMD? Not to mention imp evasion and monk wings.

There are a couple of other options if you went Ranger as well:
11Ranger/6Monk/3Pali, 14Ranger/6Monk

Just some ideas that might be easier to build on a 28 pnt platform since stats requirements are mostly forgotten about.

unbongwah
07-27-2014, 11:26 AM
Just because I'm a horribly biased person, wouldn't a Ranger option be easier stat wise for a 28 point build?
Only if you weren't planning on taking Combat Archery. It's not a huge DPS loss, but it is a loss. Also dropping below monk 12 means no Imp Martial Arts, though I confess I don't remember if it's finally working with bows. But it's still +1[W] w/unarmed, which this build uses. In hindsight, perhaps I should've taken Vorpal Strikes as lvl 27 feat, too.

I'd even go really simple and just do 11Ranger/9Monk. Could do pretty much everything, and wouldn't have to meet and stat requirements except wis, str(I would assume go for OC), and like 13 dex for precision and 10K stars?
You've basically swapped DEX for STR, so I don't see how you're saving any build pts. And while OC is a nice perk, I don't think it's worth the 4-feat cost on a mostly-ranged build, though obviously it helps melee DPS too.

Anyway, those are all viable alternatives, so why don't you post some actual builds? :)

TheLegendOfAra
07-27-2014, 05:00 PM
Only if you weren't planning on taking Combat Archery. It's not a huge DPS loss, but it is a loss. Also dropping below monk 12 means no Imp Martial Arts, though I confess I don't remember if it's finally working with bows. But it's still +1[W] w/unarmed, which this build uses. In hindsight, perhaps I should've taken Vorpal Strikes as lvl 27 feat, too.

You've basically swapped DEX for STR, so I don't see how you're saving any build pts. And while OC is a nice perk, I don't think it's worth the 4-feat cost on a mostly-ranged build, though obviously it helps melee DPS too.

Anyway, those are all viable alternatives, so why don't you post some actual builds? :)

Eh, good point I guess. I always forget about CA, since it was broken for so long and I've yet to have a build that could even get close to fitting it in since they fixed it. lol

It would suck to lose Imp Martial Arts, but I think the addition of PA, Cleave, GC, and OC would help to lessen the blow there so to speak.

I just find Str a lot easier to build for, since I'm usually DPS focused. Just a difference in build style. Since you save so many feats with a mostly Ranger split you have the feats to play with. You could go dex based and pick up a bunch of defensive feats instead and you'd be good as well. I just don't have any personal experience playing with that in game to say "Yeah it works" or "Nope. It's no good."

But.. That would take actual work! :0
(I'll post one when I get home from work :))

TheLegendOfAra
07-27-2014, 10:11 PM
Here is... well something anyways. :)
Not exactly what I would do with the same class split on my main, but she has past lives, gear, and full +4 tomes, so I had to adjust it slightly.

went with dragon marks instead of grabbing Empower Heal just because if this is a first life build it's unlikely to have the twist slots and gear to really capitalize on the Ranger heals and Cocoon the way I would normally do on a Ranger. The added protection from Displacement spell will make that easier to deal with.


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Level 28 Lawful Good Elf Male
(9 Monk \ 11 Ranger \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 336
Spell Points: 225
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 16
Will: 18


Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 14 23
Dexterity 12 14
Constitution 14 14
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 16 22
Charisma 8 8


Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 22
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 24
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 24

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 28)
Balance 1 13
Bluff -1 7
Concentration 6 37
Diplomacy -1 10
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 1 9
Heal 7 34
Hide 1 13
Intimidate -1 7
Jump 2 17
Listen 3 16
Move Silently 1 10
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 7
Search -1 9
Spellcraft -1 7
Spot 3 16
Swim 2 14
Tumble 3 32
Use Magic Device 1 18

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack




Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery




Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist




Level 4 (Ranger)




Level 5 (Ranger)




Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave




Level 7 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant




Level 8 (Ranger)




Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light




Level 10 (Monk)




Level 11 (Monk)




Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Ten Thousand Stars




Level 13 (Ranger)




Level 14 (Ranger)




Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms




Level 16 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider




Level 17 (Ranger)




Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons




Level 19 (Monk)




Level 20 (Monk)




Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Shadow




Level 22 (Epic)




Level 23 (Epic)




Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Precision




Level 25 (Epic)




Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Tactician




Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical




Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Elven Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Greater Dragonmark of Shadow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Metalline Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Dispelling Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Dispelling Shot (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Dispelling Shot (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Inferno Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Inferno Shot (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Inferno Shot (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Soul Magic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Moonbow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arrow of Slaying (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Far Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Shield of Whirling Steel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Riddle of Fire (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Mystic Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Way of the Elegant Crane (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Contemplation (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Contemplation (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Contemplation (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Shadow Veil (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Agility (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)






Obviously it's not 100% optimized for anything like EE.
However it should tear up mobs in EH and EN with ease.
Wis is a bit low though, which is a bummer. And unless you dump Str completely and go dex/wis based I don't see how to get it higher on a 28 pnt build sadly.