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californiapiper
06-25-2014, 12:56 AM
As a long time bard player I would like to rant once again against playing the lute. I play bagpipes in life and I want my bards to play the pipes. While D&D is not based in this world
It is a way back when game. So why the lute? The pipes are much older, some shepherd in the east. Most likely modern day Turkey attached his flute to a sheep stomach as an
air reservoir so his flute could sound even while he took a breath.
A bit more pipe history the Roman Army first marshaled them and brought them to Europe, since the pipes have been used to inspire armies to victory, Over a 1000 pipers died during WWI
So devs allow my bards to be pipers and lute guitar heros

FranOhmsford
06-25-2014, 05:35 AM
We need multiple instrument choices!

Bagpipes is a great idea but I'd also like to add:

1. Bugle/Horn {add in the Reveille - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83ozOX9l7M8&feature=kp - please Devs}

2. Harp

3. Vocal - Singing or Poetry!

RD2play
06-25-2014, 05:45 AM
We need multiple instrument choices!

Bagpipes is a great idea but I'd also like to add:

1. Bugle/Horn {add in the Reveille - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83ozOX9l7M8&feature=kp - please Devs}

2. Harp

3. Vocal - Singing or Poetry!

horn would make a nice mace

Harp or drum, could be buckler/orb ?

vocal = unarmed, but no monk so .... cant you sing while wielding your great axe ?

bagpipes .... well cosmetic maybe ? cant see a weapon substitute in DDO for this one :) ... maybe ranged like a blow dart

But yeah I agree, with the emphasis on bards atm it would be great if they added more instruments to the game. Both in weapon/shield form and cosmetics!

hmm .. giving each race its "own" instrument while playing a song will take it to far, but would be awesome!

Tscheuss
06-25-2014, 06:07 AM
As a long time bard player I would like to rant once again against playing the lute. I play bagpipes in life and I want my bards to play the pipes. While D&D is not based in this world
It is a way back when game. So why the lute? The pipes are much older, some shepherd in the east. Most likely modern day Turkey attached his flute to a sheep stomach as an
air reservoir so his flute could sound even while he took a breath.
A bit more pipe history the Roman Army first marshaled them and brought them to Europe, since the pipes have been used to inspire armies to victory, Over a 1000 pipers died during WWI
So devs allow my bards to be pipers and lute guitar heros

Add Scottish Brae to the repertoire. :D

Gljosh
06-25-2014, 07:23 AM
I used to have a pnp Bard that rocked a magic kazoo. The kazoo could charm small forest creatures; squirrels, chipmunks, etc.

Aliss7
06-25-2014, 10:33 AM
Needs more cowbell.

byzantinebob
06-25-2014, 02:19 PM
LOTRO handles this with Minstrels. There are several instruments and each changes the sound you make when you use attacks. Each also has a different set of bonuses. Drums do more dps but use more mana on attacks. Flutes improve healing, etc. It requires slotting an item to accomplish this, but LOTRO has a "class item" slot so it doesn't affect them.

californiapiper
06-25-2014, 03:40 PM
Add Scottish Brae to the repertoire. :D How About "Garryowen"? http://youtu.be/UNwu8qRllJ0

californiapiper
06-25-2014, 03:47 PM
Needs more cowbell. More Cowbell http://vimeo.com/55624839

dunklezhan
06-25-2014, 04:37 PM
Needs more cowbell.

This.

Also, pipe or flute - there's even already a pipe type musical solo played by one or other of the NPCs somewhere. Keep hearing bits of it as I run around, I would guess House P near the carnival chain giver. So the music's there, we just need the animation.

I say 'just'. I mean, animations are just SO hard to do in computer games. Press release hard, apparently. But then, we're not asking for female assassins here. Just a pipe or drums! (actually I know someone who plays his three-hole pipe in one hand and bangs a drum with the other. Neither of those things are euphemisms, I swear! I just mean in theory you could have a piper-drummer)

mna
06-25-2014, 08:11 PM
We need multiple instrument choices!

Bagpipes is a great idea but I'd also like to add:

1. Bugle/Horn {add in the Reveille - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83ozOX9l7M8&feature=kp - please Devs}

2. Harp

3. Vocal - Singing or Poetry!

Heh.

I'd think a hurdy-gurdy or a Swedish nyckelharpa would fit in particularly well. Especially for those artificer/swashbucklers that use runearms too... this is Eberron after all, which isn't really a low-tech "medieval" setting, so instruments with plenty of moving parts would not be out of the question.

MadCookieQueen
06-26-2014, 09:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfY2kfQ-ZEI

This...let's go with this.

8-bit awesome FTW!

Darkvx
06-26-2014, 09:39 AM
I've been saying this for a while. I think Swashbuckler was the last thing bards needed. There is already a bard melee tree(that needs love) and a bard caster tree(that was crossed with the bards CC tree).

Bards should stand out as a Buff/Support. When i think bard i think of my FFXI bard when I join a group people would be excited "we got a bard awesome". In ddo it "We have to carry a bard?"

Alisonique
06-26-2014, 09:46 AM
Harps and tabors,oh yes that would be so great. Harp would use the same action as the lute (almost)

californiapiper
06-26-2014, 12:41 PM
This brave man is was a true bard, no idea on the name, but a true WW1 battle field picture
http://i58.tinypic.com/bfmm3r.jpg
Bards are meant to inspire courage and we've lost sight of what a bards purpose in the game
is. Bards are not meant to keep up with the the dps of everyone else, but to make everyone
else better

MadCookieQueen
06-26-2014, 01:00 PM
I've been saying this for a while. I think Swashbuckler was the last thing bards needed. There is already a bard melee tree(that needs love) and a bard caster tree(that was crossed with the bards CC tree).

Bards should stand out as a Buff/Support. When i think bard i think of my FFXI bard when I join a group people would be excited "we got a bard awesome". In ddo it "We have to carry a bard?"


Swashbuckler was something Bards needed. Warchanter wasn't getting it done. Swashbuckler provides a whole other level of combat style and gives Bard another option for melee and now throwing and even an insta kill.

Options are good!

You want Bards that only stand out as Buff/Support??? They do that. They do it well. No one shuts down a mob or buffs a party like a Bard...they rock already.


Honestly..I have no issues with showing up to a party with my Bard. I have yet to ever meet anyone who said "oh great we have to carry the Bard" or even anything close to that. So if you are in groups that say that then I don't know what to tell you...find a new group or re-roll your Bard ^^

californiapiper
06-26-2014, 01:04 PM
A short video explaining both the effect the pipes have on soldiers and the bravery of the pipers themselves
armed only with a set of pipes and some tunes in their heads






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO4W4mnzd-I

californiapiper
06-26-2014, 01:07 PM
Swashbuckler was something Bards needed. Warchanter wasn't getting it done. Swashbuckler provides a whole other level of combat style and gives Bard another option for melee and now throwing and even an insta kill.

Options are good!

You want Bards that only stand out as Buff/Support??? They do that. They do it well. No one shuts down a mob or buffs a party like a Bard...they rock already.


Honestly..I have no issues with showing up to a party with my Bard. I have yet to ever meet anyone who said "oh great we have to carry the Bard" or even anything close to that. So if you are in groups that say that then I don't know what to tell you...find a new group or re-roll your Bard ^^


My bards are pimp, can solo all end game EE, and no one has ever thought they had to carry my bards, point is I want bagpipes :)

MadCookieQueen
06-26-2014, 02:29 PM
My bards are pimp, can solo all end game EE, and no one has ever thought they had to carry my bards, point is I want bagpipes :)



You can only have bagpipes when we get kilt armor kits ^^ and the hats..must have the cute hats.

Chai
06-26-2014, 02:52 PM
Since Scotland is where the dwarvish accents come from, the dwarves should get bagpipes as an instrument. :p

...and kilts.

schelsullivan
06-26-2014, 03:26 PM
Need flaming bagpipes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N11xS9Xq-Us

Unicycle optional

californiapiper
06-26-2014, 04:12 PM
You can only have bagpipes when we get kilt armor kits ^^ and the hats..must have the cute hats.
I'm still upset the Pumpkin Head from Mabar is not on the DDO store, would be a pimp look for my Druid

Darkvx
06-27-2014, 12:02 PM
Swashbuckler was something Bards needed. Warchanter wasn't getting it done. Swashbuckler provides a whole other level of combat style and gives Bard another option for melee and now throwing and even an insta kill.

Options are good!

You want Bards that only stand out as Buff/Support??? They do that. They do it well. No one shuts down a mob or buffs a party like a Bard...they rock already.


Honestly..I have no issues with showing up to a party with my Bard. I have yet to ever meet anyone who said "oh great we have to carry the Bard" or even anything close to that. So if you are in groups that say that then I don't know what to tell you...find a new group or re-roll your Bard ^^

My point exactly Options are good. There are six or seven classes that's only purpose is dps, bards now have two dps trees and as caster/CC tree. As I said they should have fixed Warchanter (because it wasn't getting it done).

There is so much that could be done like "channeling" songs, Songs the provide a stacking bonus that act like a stance.

Before this thread its been brought up as often as cleric domains, Bards want instruments why not put that in a tree?

californiapiper
06-27-2014, 03:23 PM
My point exactly Options are good. There are six or seven classes that's only purpose is dps, bards now have two dps trees and as caster/CC tree. As I said they should have fixed Warchanter (because it wasn't getting it done).

There is so much that could be done like "channeling" songs, Songs the provide a stacking bonus that act like a stance.

Before this thread its been brought up as often as cleric domains, Bards want instruments why not put that in a tree?

Hey I'm all for making warchanter the most uber badass Mack Daddy DPS in the game so long as I get bagpipes on my bards


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2FYq4LtErE

Chimeran1
06-28-2014, 03:58 PM
As long as I get a " mute bard sound " in audio options.
I mean, who even hangs around for bard buffs...... A level 12 drow dual dagger wielding barbarian battle cleric?

californiapiper
06-28-2014, 04:05 PM
As long as I get a " mute bard sound " in audio options.
I mean, who even hangs around for bard buffs...... A level 12 drow dual dagger wielding barbarian battle cleric?


If you do not hang around bard buffs that's on you, I bard myself up and like it



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp1XRLdGNow

und_ed666
07-17-2014, 09:17 AM
I'm pretty certain a set of Bagpipes should be classed as a ranged weapon, not as an instrument :P

I'm all for bards being allowed to use bagpipes, as long as other players are allowed to beat them into quiet.

-und_ed

LeslieWest_GuitarGod
07-17-2014, 09:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfY2kfQ-ZEI

This...let's go with this.

8-bit awesome FTW!

That thing is like a tree with a microphone! She's pretty good.

LeslieWest_GuitarGod
07-17-2014, 09:35 AM
As a long time bard player I would like to rant once again against playing the lute. I play bagpipes in life and I want my bards to play the pipes. While D&D is not based in this world
It is a way back when game. So why the lute? The pipes are much older, some shepherd in the east. Most likely modern day Turkey attached his flute to a sheep stomach as an
air reservoir so his flute could sound even while he took a breath.
A bit more pipe history the Roman Army first marshaled them and brought them to Europe, since the pipes have been used to inspire armies to victory, Over a 1000 pipers died during WWI
So devs allow my bards to be pipers and lute guitar heros

Even I (who's kinda known for my guitar playin') would love to play the bagpipes in game!

Like this:


http://youtu.be/K-Op1Mng4oY