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AbyssalMage
03-09-2014, 03:55 AM
Ok, I like my Tempest Trapmonkey. I have survived at the lower levels gearing as I go (first character) and grinding epic levels mainly waiting on my cleansing stone (Shroud) before I TR. My gear isn't all that fancy (actually pretty dated :( ) as Epic levels have shown me (dang inflated HP's) so I need some gear advice/assistance/help while I am staying in Epic levels grinding, waiting on the 3 day Shroud timer. Pertinent information:

Elf 18/1/1 Tempest Trapmonkey strength based (Khopesh proficient)
Level 24, Shiradi (almost maxed) and working on Primal Avatar now
Like I said, my gear is kinda crappy but I outperform a lot of people who talk "stuff" about me/my build when I group with them. Which makes re-invites easier :)
I have the free Raiders box but only one, so haven't opened it.
No shard/seal/item suggestions please. I am already in the EN/EH GH and Eveningstar item range so trying to find an elusive Shard is just silly.


Basically I am soliciting advice for gear for 20-24 range specifically with the above considerations. I DO NOT plan on reaching 25, if I happen to, I have Flawless Black BP waiting (Thank you AH :) )
Head-
Necklace -
Goggles -
Trinket -
Bracer -
Cloak -
Chest -
Waist -
Boots -
Gloves -
Ring -
Ring -
Weapons -

(^For easy cut and paste^. Everyone has an opinion and I am totally overwhelmed with the choices. Do I slot Strength in my Bracer like I have done sense level 7 or is their a better option. What should I move to augments (Deathblock, Fear Immunity, Str, Dex, Con, ect. These are just a few examples I ponder) allowing me more variety in gear? Thanks for any help. Gearing was so much easier at Heroic levels :)

sifubob
03-09-2014, 06:04 AM
I dunno about a full gear set, but i'll put my "must haves" for my Tempest trapper.

Head-
Necklace - Adherent's Pendant (for devotion and SP, and i slot Deathblock)
Goggles - EH Dream visor (nice spot bonus, Dream vision for melee and ranged ghost touch)
Trinket -
Bracer - EN (or EH) Bracers of Twisting Shade (disable and search bonus, perma blur)
Cloak -
Chest -
Waist - some sort of Skullduggery Kit (i have EN HP +50 variety)
Boots - EN (or above) Spiked Boots (immune to slippery surfaces)
Ring - Epic tier 2 Ring of the Stalker (for ghostly, plus other nice stuff. i have one slotted with INT 6 and featherfall)
Ring - Guardian's Ring (for the PRR)
Weapons -

in the other slots i put deadly, wisdom, dex, con, fort, speed, accuracy, whatever...
using crafted Spiritcraft leather for the armor, mostly for the high dodge cap. i think it was lifeshield, enchant resist 6

zwiebelring
03-09-2014, 09:19 AM
Ok, I like my Tempest Trapmonkey. I have survived at the lower levels gearing as I go (first character) and grinding epic levels mainly waiting on my cleansing stone (Shroud) before I TR. My gear isn't all that fancy (actually pretty dated :( ) as Epic levels have shown me (dang inflated HP's) so I need some gear advice/assistance/help while I am staying in Epic levels grinding, waiting on the 3 day Shroud timer. Pertinent information:

Elf 18/1/1 Tempest Trapmonkey strength based (Khopesh proficient)
Level 24, Shiradi (almost maxed) and working on Primal Avatar now
Like I said, my gear is kinda crappy but I outperform a lot of people who talk "stuff" about me/my build when I group with them. Which makes re-invites easier :)
I have the free Raiders box but only one, so haven't opened it.
No shard/seal/item suggestions please. I am already in the EN/EH GH and Eveningstar item range so trying to find an elusive Shard is just silly.


Basically I am soliciting advice for gear for 20-24 range specifically with the above considerations. I DO NOT plan on reaching 25, if I happen to, I have Flawless Black BP waiting (Thank you AH :) )
Head-
Necklace -
Goggles -
Trinket -
Bracer -
Cloak -
Chest -
Waist -
Boots -
Ring -
Ring -
Weapons -

(^For easy cut and paste^. Everyone has an opinion and I am totally overwhelmed with the choices. Do I slot Strength in my Bracer like I have done sense level 7 or is their a better option. What should I move to augments (Deathblock, Fear Immunity, Str, Dex, Con, ect. These are just a few examples I ponder) allowing me more variety in gear? Thanks for any help. Gearing was so much easier at Heroic levels :)
Wat is your style of play? Clicky intensive? Or do you like permanent effects without switching much around except trapping?

Then, where do you want to put Improved Deception? You got Backstabber's Gloves and Golden Guile as easy options? But Backstabber's Gloves compete with Netherse Grasp, which is easy obtainable as enorm version as well. And that Seeker +8 and stacking +2 Str seems an ideal option for your toon.

That, however needed you to switch to Golden Guile maybe or seal of House Avithoul. Golden Guile was the easier choice there. And there was no need to upgrade it. The slots were wasted, though.

Head- Black Dragon, +3 insightful CON or +8 CON, slotted +2 insightful
Necklace - Golden Guile base item. Blurry is obtained by other items, so no worries about getting shard, seal, scroll
Goggles - so many utility choices, Tharnes for dps or Dream Visor (though there might be some older random gen items with 2 slots and more damage bonus)
Trinket - Planar set or Giant Crafted Compass/Spyglass maybe
Armor - Flawless Black, duh
Bracer - Bracers of Twisting Shade, Greater Convalescent of Parrying VIII (still existent in some banks maybe, and still a choice, expensive probably;))
Cloak - I use Jeweled Cloak permanently on my melees, epic hard for 25 charges, yellow + coloreless slot to slot whatever is missing on other items and last but not least I don't have to use Pale Lavendar and keep Planar set bonus sctive for most of the time
Waist - Epic Spare Hand for maximum utility, but there are other good choices like +10 ability, +50 hp
Boots - with Longstrider spell/Striding crystal something like Kundarak Boots (Shiradi Grease is so annoying)
Ring - something with Ghostly
Ring - Guardians Ring, lvl. 19 version does fine, slots can be obtained on other accessoires
Weapons - Water Kopesh from Cannith Challenges. Freezing Ice does have an insane proc rate compared to other item effects. And works on everything except some bosses (no save helpless state to mobs otherwise immune to Stunning Blow/Fist is very powerful). Else of course Drow Kopesh... but these weapons are more than rare. Anyway I used 2 Freecing Ice kopesh on my melee trapper and switched to common DR breakers/dps affix + suffix for bosses.

AbyssalMage
03-09-2014, 01:47 PM
Wat is your style of play? Clicky intensive? Or do you like permanent effects without switching much around except trapping?
Currently clicky intensive but slowly switching to scroll casting as there isn't the forced 6 sec delay. Honestly, I think I am leaning towards permanent effects simply because the Client forgets to switch items back when I click on them during lag spikes.

I've lost a lot from Many Shot simply because although I clicked on my bow, the Client doesn't register it but does register the fact that I clicked on Many Shot (as one example).


Then, where do you want to put Improved Deception? You got Backstabber's Gloves and Golden Guile as easy options? But Backstabber's Gloves compete with Netherse Grasp, which is easy obtainable as enorm version as well. And that Seeker +8 and stacking +2 Str seems an ideal option for your toon.
I have both items eNorm Nethers and Golden Guild. Backstabber's I do not own, but isn't terribly hard to acquire. Which is just one of the many choices I have been struggling with. Do I go Golden Guile + EN Nethers or Backstabber's + (something)?


That, however needed you to switch to Golden Guile maybe or seal of House Avithoul. Golden Guile was the easier choice there. And there was no need to upgrade it. The slots were wasted, though.
I figure I will be "wasting" slots. Not too worried about min/max when I won't be staying at max level. But tuning (gearing) the Ranger after 24 levels replacing mostly Heroic stuff would make me happier.


Head- Black Dragon, +3 insightful CON or +8 CON, slotted +2 insightful
Necklace - Golden Guile base item. Blurry is obtained by other items, so no worries about getting shard, seal, scroll
Goggles - so many utility choices, Tharnes for dps or Dream Visor (though there might be some older random gen items with 2 slots and more damage bonus)
Trinket - Planar set or Giant Crafted Compass/Spyglass maybe
Armor - Flawless Black, duh
Bracer - Bracers of Twisting Shade, Greater Convalescent of Parrying VIII (still existent in some banks maybe, and still a choice, expensive probably;))
Cloak - I use Jeweled Cloak permanently on my melees, epic hard for 25 charges, yellow + coloreless slot to slot whatever is missing on other items and last but not least I don't have to use Pale Lavendar and keep Planar set bonus sctive for most of the time
Waist - Epic Spare Hand for maximum utility, but there are other good choices like +10 ability, +50 hp
Boots - with Longstrider spell/Striding crystal something like Kundarak Boots (Shiradi Grease is so annoying)
Ring - something with Ghostly
Ring - Guardians Ring, lvl. 19 version does fine, slots can be obtained on other accessoires
Weapons - Water Kopesh from Cannith Challenges. Freezing Ice does have an insane proc rate compared to other item effects. And works on everything except some bosses (no save helpless state to mobs otherwise immune to Stunning Blow/Fist is very powerful). Else of course Drow Kopesh... but these weapons are more than rare. Anyway I used 2 Freecing Ice kopesh on my melee trapper and switched to common DR breakers/dps affix + suffix for bosses.
Flawless Black is lvl 25, or can you reduce it's minimum level? Use Giant Crafted Black @24? Or something better before Flawless Black?

AbyssalMage
03-09-2014, 02:01 PM
I dunno about a full gear set, but i'll put my "must haves" for my Tempest trapper.
Boots - EN (or above) Spiked Boots (immune to slippery surfaces)

I have been actually wondering about this.

Is this in case FoM is dispelled? I know the first time I played with the White Dragon in Tor, it was a shock. Or does FoM not effect slippery surfaces like, Grease and Sleet Storm (/shudder Crucible)?

zwiebelring
03-09-2014, 02:14 PM
Flawless Black is lvl 25, or can you reduce it's minimum level? Use Giant Crafted Black @24? Or something better before Flawless Black?

No you can't. My bad, I just forgot. Cormyrian Red Dragonscale armor is the next choice, I guess. Lvl. 23 needed, Seeker +10 makes Netherese Grasp obsolete except for occasional switch to open locks. And then you even had more options for a helmet. Greensteel or whatever Dragon helm you need as stat booster.

Freeing up Netherese gave the opportunity on Backstabber's for Improved Deception and you had the necklace slot free for a greensteel guard (Enervation guard my personal favorite one) or even hp or whatever elseyou like. Diplomacy became more viable so you could watch out for a nice skillbooster. In case you maybe want to stay at lvl. 24+ a little longer you may want to get the Skirmisher's necklace. Dodge + Deadly on necklace slot. Not possible anywhere else, iirc. And that item is a fixed reward option in one of the Stormhorn quests.

If you lean towards permanent effects I'd advice you to take Blinding Speed feat, Bracers of Twisting Shade, Epic Spare Hand, Giant Crafted Compass or Treasure Hunter's Spyglass. With this you cover 1 melee dps factor (permanent Haste spell) + trap skills or at least some. Then you had to switch less items and thus had to worry about less UMD lag and such. Since you use Kopesh as main weapon, there is no much concern about Planar Focus set as well, so just skip it and live without +15 PRR. If you do not plan on running epic elite, it won't matter at all, so win-win again.


Is this in case FoM is dispelled? I know the first time I played with the White Dragon in Tor, it was a shock. Or does FoM not effect slippery surfaces like, Grease and Sleet Storm (/shudder Crucible)?
The boots are active permanently, if equipped. FoM protects you against more than just slippery surfaces. If it is dispelled, the boots work normally.

The Spiked Boots could easily be replaced by heroic FoM (permanent FoM effect) boots from VoN raid or even Cannith Challenge item: Epic Rock Boots. These, however, have a buggy behavior regarding the FoM buff.

p.s.: You have one Raider's Box. I guess you save it for your toon's final live. Pinion was an obvious choice otherwise, even if you do not use Planar Set it remains the best bow.

EllisDee37
03-09-2014, 02:24 PM
Mine wears the following:

Head: Devotion of Wizardry (lootgen)
Eyes: Deadly
Neck:
Back: Epic Cloak of Night
Wrist: Bracers of Twisting Shade
Hand: PDK Gloves
Waist: Greensteel
Feet: Cannith Boots of Propulsion
Ring:
Ring: Epic Ring of the Stalker
Trinket: Epic Treasure Hunter's Spyglass
Body: Hide of the Goristro (+8 con)

I left the necklace and ring open in this list because I've been wearing Kilau's set from ToD forever, and while I'm emotionally attached to it it's well past time I accept the fact that it kind of sucks in today's game.

AbyssalMage
03-10-2014, 12:36 AM
From the above item suggestions, should I be switching Heavy Fortification into a Augment slot? And if so, is there a consensus where (or maybe not to place it)? Anything else I should just slot using Augmentations?

Grailhawk
03-10-2014, 09:53 AM
At 20 my gear is something like this.

Head: Deadly
Eyes: Tharne's Goggles
Neck: Torc
Trinket: Greater Nimble Trinket
Armor: Epic Red Dragonhide Armor (Eboron Version at ML20)
Cloak: Epic Envenomed Cloak
Wrist: Epic Bracers of the Claw
Belt: Colethenis's Belt
Gloves: Epic Gloves of the Claw
Feat: Green Steel (Con Op +150 SP)
Ring: Epic Ring of the Stalker (Striding in Yellow Slot)
Ring: Ring of the Ravager (20% Healing Amp)
Main Hand: Alchemical Khopesh Earth/Earth/Earth (+1d8 Elemental Damage)
Off Hand: Alchemical Khopesh Earth/Air/Earth (Devotion 90 in Red Slot)

EllisDee37
03-10-2014, 04:08 PM
Ring: Ring of the Ravager (20% Healing Amp)Oh, right, now I remember why I've held onto the kilau set so long. The necklace can go but I think I might hold onto the ring. I do enjoy 20% amp.

Enguebert
03-11-2014, 03:11 AM
Other people have replied with ideal gear, but i will give you some ideas about easy to get epic material

Ring : epic ring of the stalker
Gloves : PDK gloves (for STR, ins CON & Healing amp)
Helm : PDK helm (for CON & Ins STR).
Bracers : Epic bracers of the wind (blurry, dodge, air guard)
Belt : spare hand (doublestrike, open lock, disable)
Boots : boots of the woodsman (striding , move silently, ins dex)

Bow : epic elemental longbow of earth

Those items are not the best one, but they are all ML20 and can be easily farmed (cannith challenge or MotU commendation) so it is a good start
Cannith challenge items have the advantage to have a colorless slot (Tier 2) and a blue, yellow or Red slot (Tier 3)

In colorless slot, you can put either a +11 skill (for a skill you don't need max, like for example heal or balance) or a +6 stat for a secondary stat (like wis for the will save) or the vitality diamond
In blue slot, you can either put a Good Luck +2 or a PRR saphir

If you have yellow slots, you can put either Featherfall or blindness immunity. Always useful. Deathblock is also useful, but the augment is very rare. Maybe a protection vs poison or disease but i can live without them :-)