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Micki
03-01-2014, 06:15 AM
Hello there, citizens of the realm... I mean ddo players. Alright, I need some build ideas. I play slow, and I have never built a fighter before. My toon Maidae has 2 monk PL's and is currently 2 rogue/ 18 barb, sitting capped at 28 with all ED's xp capped as well. I am going to ETR + TR some time soon, and I would like to do a fighter life next. I am looking for self sufficient dps, that can hold her own in ee raids. This is pretty much what I have right now, but barbarian was meant to be only a past life, and her dps is much lower than I'd like.

I need a build that is easy to level, should be able to solo a bit, even though my main focus is not to solo, and should be able to handle some ee content once I get back to epic levels. I do look at what others play, I am just not sure what would be fun and a good fit for me. Should I make a fighter/ monk, a fighter/ barb... or an aa fighter? What do you recommend? Also, for race I'd prefer not human. I currently have 3 humans and 2 elves, and I just don't like the look of the humans. I know, what about looks.. but if you play in 3rd person view, you are constantly looking at your toon, so you want something nice to look at.

Thank you for any ideas/ advice.

Cheers.

P.S. I will make a plan on the planners as soon as I have some idea to start with.

P.P.S It normally takes me ~10 weeks to level a 3rd life toon 1-20, because I play multiple toons every week.

P.P.P.S I have access to all classes and races including iconics.

thouston
03-01-2014, 09:33 AM
i would go with https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/426765-Kensei-Warpriest-for-new-players-%28Human-12-8-Fighter-Cleric%29

unbongwah
03-01-2014, 07:13 PM
If you've got BF, Cetus (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/433254-Cetus-The-Supreme-Bladeforged-Fighter) is the obvious choice.

Nightmanis
03-01-2014, 08:31 PM
If you've got BF, Cetus (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/433254-Cetus-The-Supreme-Bladeforged-Fighter) is the obvious choice.

But where's the fun in that?

You could go for a staff build, making something like a 12 Fighter 8 Rogue, but then you're just a rogue with a giant toothpick with a lot of strength from fighter (not a bad thing, I might add)

There's also a build that I was contemplating, which is a 12 fighter 5 Rogue 3 Barbarian staff build, but as it's just a theory crafted setup it wouldn't exactly go for something like what you're wanting.

A good question to ask is, what weapon are you wanting to use? I'm going to assume something like Cleaver, as that is the seeming weapon of choice for most builds as of yet.

But in reality Cetus' build is probably your best bet. Plus grabbing a few fighter lives is nice for when you inevitably want something focusing on tactical dc's.

Micki
03-02-2014, 03:38 AM
Thank you for your replies.

Weapon of choice... I'm not sure. I have a bunch of wraps from monk lives, I have pinion and sireth, I'm missing the seal to make eSOS. This life I've been falchion focused using the falchion from CitW.

I was pitched the 8 fighter/ 6 monk/ 6 ranger handwraps/manyshot build. That could be something.

And for Cetus build... looks awesome and uber, but I don't want to make a copy. I also don't have a full set of +5 tomes.

Lonnbeimnech
03-02-2014, 03:53 AM
8 fighter 6 ranger 6 monk

Can be built as a moncher, more or less.

Can instead be built as a twf that can switch to bow for manyshot

Can instead be built to use thf with cleaves that can switch to bow for manyshot

Can instead be built as a handwrap user with 100% off-hand, 10% from tempest and 10% from shintao, stunning fist etc, that can switch to bow for manyshot

unbongwah
03-02-2014, 08:01 AM
But where's the fun in that?
OP asked for a self-sufficient non-human melee DPS toon which qualified for ftr PL. I'm struggling to think of anything which fits the build better than Cetus. Heck, even if you don't want to make another monk / kensei, BF are still the natural choice; Reconstruct SLA is just that useful.

There's also a build that I was contemplating, which is a 12 fighter 5 Rogue 3 Barbarian staff build, but as it's just a theory crafted setup it wouldn't exactly go for something like what you're wanting.
Funny you should mention this, as I've got a HO rog/barb/ftr with a Raider's box I've been trying to decide what to do with. APs are the biggest stumbling block, since I wanted 32 APs in Acro for Staff Spec, 21 APs in Kensei for Power Surge, 16 APs in FB for Mad Munitions & Supreme Cleave, and 19 APs in HO for Brutality & extra Power Rage. Soon as I figure out how to make that work I'll let you know...

And for Cetus build... looks awesome and uber, but I don't want to make a copy. I also don't have a full set of +5 tomes.
Cetus has 3 stat pre-reqs: STR 23 for Overwhelming Crit, DEX 17 for Manyshot, and WIS 13 for Zen Archery. Everything else is just bragging rights. ;) I've already shown it can be done on a 32-pt WF with +2s (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/436990-Looking-for-a-starter-build-for-a-Warforged-THF?p=5265227&viewfull=1#post5265227), so I trust whatever you have access to on a 36-pt build will more than suffice.

CThruTheEgo
03-02-2014, 08:47 AM
Have a look at Santa's Little Slayer in my sig. I'm having a blast with it. It is built around dual Balizardes, so I would expect it to be considerably weaker if you're not using those.

Micki
03-02-2014, 03:27 PM
Thank you for your replies (again). I must look at the build ideas and see what I can come up with.

One idea was to do the 8 fighter/ 6 monk/ 6 ranger as bf (would require a +1LR). Cetus build does look interesting, though. Hmm.

I will most likely do a few fighter lives, so this will not be this toon's final life, but I will keep her epic for at least a couple of months. I must check what tomes she's used (at least all +3's, some +4's, one +5).

Micki
03-08-2014, 06:16 AM
It always takes me forever to click through the levels and pick feats, etc. Here's a first idea at how my toon might look like as a cetus build. What do you think? (I checked the tomes used and they are as listed)


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Maidae
Level 28 Lawful Good Bladeforged Female
(12 Fighter \ 2 Paladin \ 6 Monk \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 430
Spell Points: 167
BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
Fortitude: 25
Reflex: 17
Will: 15

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 17 26
Dexterity 13 17
Constitution 14 19
Intelligence 8 11
Wisdom 9 13
Charisma 15 18

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 10
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 10
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 10
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 10
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 10
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 10
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 14
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 14
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 14
+4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 14
+5 Tome of Constitution used at level 18

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 28)
Balance 1 17
Bluff 2 12
Concentration 2 12
Diplomacy 2 12
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 2 12
Heal -1 9
Hide 1 11
Intimidate 2 12
Jump 3 16
Listen -1 9
Move Silently 1 11
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 21
Search -1 8
Spellcraft -1 8
Spot -1 9
Swim 3 16
Tumble 2 12
Use Magic Device 3 23

Level 1 (Paladin)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Lord of Blades
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 3 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Handed Fighting


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Repair (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow


Level 5 (Fighter)
Skill: Repair (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave


Level 6 (Fighter)
Skill: Repair (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Rapid Shot


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Repair (+2)


Level 11 (Fighter)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light


Level 13 (Monk)
Skill: Repair (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 14 (Monk)
Skill: Repair (+2)


Level 15 (Monk)
Skill: Repair (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 17 (Fighter)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 18 (Fighter)
Skill: Repair (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 19 (Fighter)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Bow Strength


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Repair (+1)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting




I'm gonna run the "santas little helper" build on the planner a bit later

Micki
03-09-2014, 01:30 PM
Actually, I just made eSOS today for this toon, so an eSOS build it is. How's my levelling idea looking? Should I switch something around?