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Vanhooger
02-11-2014, 07:34 AM
I want to do a pure sorcer 20 next life and max out the cha and Evo dc.

Race: Drow, Completionist, 3sorc pl

I don't have the Litany from Abbot raid :(



Cha = 20 base +2 completionist +2 ship +5 tome +10 item +3 insightful +1 exc +5 destiny +7 level +6 enhancements +2 capstone +2 yugo = 64

Base Evocation DC = 10 + 9 level + 27 cha modifier +3 epic spell focus evocation +1 past life arcane initiate +3 magister evocation specialist +2 draconic precise evocation +2 evocation augment +5 sage's locket +3 past lives sorcerer +1 enhancement = 66

Miss any sustainable ench/twist/item/buff?

SirValentine
02-11-2014, 08:39 AM
Base Evocation DC = 10 + 9 level + 27 cha modifier +3 epic spell focus evocation +1 past life arcane initiate +3 magister evocation specialist +2 draconic precise evocation +2 evocation augment +5 sage's locket +3 past lives sorcerer +1 enhancement = 66


Other than Cha modifier, that seems correct.



Cha = 20 base +2 completionist +2 ship +5 tome +10 item +3 insightful +1 exc +5 destiny +7 level +6 enhancements +2 capstone +2 yugo = 64


You can get that higher if you really want to.


+11 Cha items drop on random loot. Rare, but possible.
can get 6 from Destiny, not 5.
could take Great Charisma feats, x2. (But not x3 or you can't take Epic Spell Focus.)
More from destinies and/or twists. If you're running in Draconic or Magister, you've only accounted for 1 twist with the +DC from the other. That leaves 2 twists for +Cha. Or you could run in Fatesinger, for +1 from Glitter of Fame, +1 from Echoes of the Ancestors, twist in both +DC boosts, and still twist in +1 more Cha, for +3 total Cha.
+1 Profane, of course.


That adds up to...8 more Cha, for up to 4 more DC.

Of course, some of that has significant opportunity costs.



I don't have the Litany from Abbot raid :(


Go get one!

Vanhooger
02-14-2014, 04:47 AM
Thanks dude for the answer. Also I'm interested on maximum spell point pool available at the moment at 28, with a sorc 20, without counting in spell storing and similar object.

kierg10
02-19-2014, 12:29 PM
lose some evo DCs and pick up some enchant DCs....that is what I'm gonna do after my first eTR.

Wizza
02-20-2014, 04:30 AM
lose some evo DCs and pick up some enchant DCs....that is what I'm gonna do after my first eTR.

Having playied an (almost) max Evo DC Sorcerer for a looong time, this ^ is one good advice.

My Evo DC was sitting for most of the time at 64~66 buffed. I like to debuff with Waves/Solid fog and I can tell you something: where you actually needed those DC the most (against Archers, Shadar-kai assassins), it still didn't work well enough. By enough I mean they still saved 50% of the time with every possible debuff.

Listen to our advice and try to fit some Enchantment in there. I have a 52! DC (unbuffed) with minimal effort and it works GREAT with Crushing Despair and Mind Fog. I still have a 62 Evo DC buffed (+ waves + solid fog = 70 Evo DC situational) and it works much better.

Vanhooger
02-21-2014, 07:43 AM
Having playied an (almost) max Evo DC Sorcerer for a looong time, this ^ is one good advice.

My Evo DC was sitting for most of the time at 64~66 buffed. I like to debuff with Waves/Solid fog and I can tell you something: where you actually needed those DC the most (against Archers, Shadar-kai assassins), it still didn't work well enough. By enough I mean they still saved 50% of the time with every possible debuff.

Listen to our advice and try to fit some Enchantment in there. I have a 52! DC (unbuffed) with minimal effort and it works GREAT with Crushing Despair and Mind Fog. I still have a 62 Evo DC buffed (+ waves + solid fog = 70 Evo DC situational) and it works much better.

Ok, I will follow that advice, but what you giving up? And what you going to take instead? I mean, I can't afford all the feat if I have to pick ench line. Any advice? And what about SR check on ench spell?

Wizza
02-21-2014, 12:48 PM
Ok, I will follow that advice, but what you giving up? And what you going to take instead? I mean, I can't afford all the feat if I have to pick ench line. Any advice? And what about SR check on ench spell?

I gave up Toughness for Enchantment focus and put Enchantment mastery as Twist from Magister instead of Evocation. So lost +3 evo DC and gained 4 ench DC.

About Spell Resistance, endgame mobs, at the moment, are not a problem. Very, very few of them has any kind of spell resistance. I just nuke the ones who have any kind of SR down.

Vanhooger
04-04-2014, 07:19 AM
I gave up Toughness for Enchantment focus and put Enchantment mastery as Twist from Magister instead of Evocation. So lost +3 evo DC and gained 4 ench DC.

About Spell Resistance, endgame mobs, at the moment, are not a problem. Very, very few of them has any kind of spell resistance. I just nuke the ones who have any kind of SR down.

After few Epic pl, I can say that your advice worked very well...but those stupid shadarkai assasin the still save on 63 ench dc and throw some debuff on them is not easy, they're very fast and you can't stand still or die because of the chain, I just hate them :)