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Noritine
10-31-2013, 09:37 PM
with the enhancement pass I see monks using weapons. my question is...

does stunning fist, fist of light, the earth attack, etc work while using weapons or do you still have to use wraps for those?

TheGuyYouKnow
10-31-2013, 10:34 PM
stunning fist and touch of despair require fists as always, everything else works with weapons as long as your centered iirc.

TeacherSyn
11-01-2013, 09:25 AM
with the enhancement pass I see monks using weapons. my question is...

does stunning fist, fist of light, the earth attack, etc work while using weapons or do you still have to use wraps for those?

Ki elemental strikes work with traditional ki weapons: Kamas, quarterstaves and (with just 1 AP in Ninja Spy) shortswords.

All other weapons will uncenter you unless:

* You take Zen Archery to make longbows a centered weapon (this doesn't add the bow Proficiency feat, however).
* You take Whirling Steel Strike to make longswords a ki weapon.
* You multiclass as a Kensei and choose its upper-level enhancement that allows you to take your Focused weapon (which can be just about anything) and make it a ki weapon.

Ranged and thrown weapons can't use ki attacks of any kind (or the finishers they can generate) unless designed for such business (such as Ten Thousand Stars), nor do they generate ki to power those abilities.

So, stick to melee attacks, armed and unarmed, and most ki attacks (except Stunning Fist and Touch of Death) work fine.

unbongwah
11-01-2013, 09:27 AM
Quivering Palm is also unarmed-only, IIRC. After all, it's not called "Quivering Tip of my Blade" or "Quivering Stick I Whack You With." :)

inspiredunease
11-01-2013, 09:41 AM
No, QP works armed. Quivering rapier...

Darkrok
11-01-2013, 09:47 AM
"Quivering Stick I Whack You With." :)

They need to rename it now. I fully endorse this one here. :)

unbongwah
11-01-2013, 09:47 AM
No, QP works armed. Quivering rapier...
QP is monk 15; you need at least ftr 8 to take One w/Blade in order to be centered.

Still, I hadn't noticed that using it with weapons was one of the U19 changes - nice! By which I mean: even more OP! ;)