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Andoris
09-13-2013, 10:44 AM
I am still working on how to update my rogue build taking into account the U19 changes. For reference the pre-U19 version is located here (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/400113-The-Stunning-Rogue-(18-rogue-1-monk-1-druid-Str-Wis-build)?highlight=18%20rogue%20monk%20druid).

The goals of the build are as follows:

High self-sufficiency and survivability
Excellent trash mob removal / dps
Versatility (fill a number of different roles in the party)
Good Boss bps
Fast-paced, nearly always running, Thug combat style (no I don't want to make him an assassin rogue)


Current build thoughts:

Change race to Human. I went with Half-elf originally for the monk dilly and its extra healing amp. With the huge ap investment that takes in the current system it no longer makes sense to be an Half-elf. Human gets me 10% HA for 2 fewer AP, and grants me an extra feat
Debating on a radical change in class split to 16monk/4 rogue, allowing me to take advantage of Quivering Palm and its crazy trash removal potential. This however, would cost me rams might, 5d6 sneak damage, opportunist, and would require me to take magical training as a feat (to power cocoon), but that is offset by not needing to take as many monk stance feats.
Change 13rog/6monk/1druid to 13rog/6monk/1cleric, I would lose rams might, but gain cheap scroll mastery


Gear:


Gear selection: I know I want to slot in deadly, I need a better wisdom / resistance item, and I would like to slot in the new prr ring. Currently, I don't have a good idea how to accomplish that without losing current critical effects (current gear below, changes listed in [] ).


Trinket: Litany (+1 alchem saves) / PLIS / epic Spyglass / Planar Focus of Prowess (swap when using Pinion or tanking with antipodes), [would love a better trinket idea, litany is a bit long in the tooth]
Head: Black dragon (+3 insightful con, 14 PRR, GoTIB)
Neck: Oremi’s / Pendant of the Stormreaver (when I don't need the Ki)
Goggles: MIN II GS / Tinker’s, [Shadowsight (green:heavy fort)]
Bracers: Superior Parry, 30% HA, (TGA) / Ventilated (DD and OL)
Body: Black Dragon (35 HP [+7 saves])
Cloak: Adamantine Cloak of the Wolf / GS Haste clicky and +6 cha skills / GS Displacement clicky of +2 dex and Greater fire resist / GS +6 int skills [Deadly 10, resistance 10??]
Ring: Oremi’s Ring (Holy Burst) / Ring of the Srorm reaver Prophecy (+2 wis), [Guardian Ring / Skirmishers ring]
Boots: EE Treads / TOD boots / Cannith Boots of Propulsion [???]
Gloves: EE backstabers (+7 str)
Belt: epic Spare Hand (luck, +6 Cha) [??]
Weapons: +7 Byeshk/Air/Water/Water Alchemical (Devotion 114), +7 Byeshk/Fire/Air/Fire Alchemical (1d10 shock), +5 Byeshk/Air/Earth Alchemical, Grave Wrappings, Endless night (lvl20), +5 Silver Anarchic Burst of Greater Lawful Outsider Bane, +5 Cold Iron Axiomatic Burst of Greater Chaotic Outsider Bane, +5 Adamantine True Chaos of Greater Construct Bane, +4 Frost Burst & Flaming of Greater Elemental Bane, +4 Icy burst Axiomatic of Greater Dragon Bane, Pinion, Antipodes (Devotion)

Let me know your thoughts:

Name: Ashenblade
Class Split: 13 Rogue / 6 Monk / 1 Druid
Race: Half-elf

Abilities:
Str: 33 -- (10 base + 4 tome +7 item +1 GoTIB +1 litany + 2 rage +4 tensers +2 Rams +2 ship)
Dex: 45 -- (16 base + 5 tome +1 enh +8 item +3 insight +1 GoTIB +1 litany + 4 tenser +2 ship + 4 stance)
Con: 38 -- (16 base +5 tome +6 item +3 insight +1 GoTIB + 1 litany +2 rage +4 tensers +2 ship – 2 stance)
Int: 26 -- (12 base +3 tome + 6 item +1 GoTIB +2 insight +2 ship)
Wis: 50 -- (16 base +5 tome +7 level +3 enh +8 item +2 insight +1 GoTIB + 3 ED +1 litany +2 alchemical +2 ship)
Cha: 21 -- (8 base +3 tome +6 item +1 GoTIB +1 litany +2 ship)

Skills: Balance (20), Bluff (22), Concentration (23), Disable Device (23), Search (23), UMD (23), Open Lock (20), Jump (3), Spot (10), Tumble (1), Heal (11),
Feats: Passive Past Life: Fighter x1, Passive Past Life: Rogue x1, Passive Past Life: Pally x1
Base: Two-weapon Fighting (1), HE Dilly: Ranger (1), Sneak of Shadows (3), Precision (6), Improved two-weapon Fighting (9), Master of Forms (12), IC: Bludgeoning (15), Greater two-weapon fighting (18), Improved Sneak Attack (21), Grandmaster of Forms (24), Epic: Toughness (27)
Epic Destiny: Guardian Angel (26), Perfect TWF (28)
Rogue: Improved Evasion (17), Opportunist (20)
Monk: Stunning Fist (2), Zen Archery (3), 10K Stars (12)

Enhancements:

Rogue Assassin (24 ap): Knife in the darkness (1), Dagger in the Back (1), Sneak Attack Training 3d6 (6), Poison Strikes: Fort (2), Shiv (3), Venomed Blades (2), Critical Accuracy (3), Rogue Dex (2), Critical damage (2), Killer (2),

Rogue Thief Acrobat (9ap): Acrobat (1), Acrobatic (1), Faster sneaking (3), Haste Boost II(4)

Monk Ninja Spy (32 ap): Ninja Training (2), Shadow Veil (1), Sneak Attack Training 4d6 (8), Acrobatic (3), Agility (1), Subtlety (3), Monk Wisdom II (4), Ninjutsu [Ki] (2), No mercy (6), Shadow Double (2)

Monk Shinto (8 AP): Bastion of Purity (1), Deft Strikes II (6), Protection from Tainted (1),

Half-Elf (7 ap): Versatile Nature (1), Versatility: Wis (2), Versatility: 20% damage (1), Skill focus (1), Human Improved Recovery (2)

Core Stats:
HP: 690 Standing (746 tensers/rage, 878 Stance/Yugo) – (134 levels +15 auto grants +50 epic +336 con +20 heroic +10 draconic +35 False Life +45 Shroud +5 TGA +28 rage +56 Tensers)
Double Strike: 28%/38% ( 10% Wind Stance + 6% Item +3% Opportunist + 3% Running with the wind + 3% hail of blows + 3% Draconic Ferocity / +10% killer
Off-hand chance: 90%
Fortification bypass: 65% (25% precision + 10% opportunist + 10% Piercing Clarity +20% Armor Piercing)
Stunning Fist DC: 69 – (10 base + 20 wisdom + 14 levels +5 exc combat mastery +10 stunning +3 GMoF +6 tactics +1 fighter PL)
Threat Reduction: 60% (20% wolf cloak + 40 % Subtlety)
Fortification: 100%
Healing Amp: 181.7% (1.1 human recovery * 1.1 Shinto * 1.3 Item * 1.1 ship * 1.05 PL); Self cast heal scroll hits for 200 hp; large silver flame for 454 hp; small silver flame for 181 hp.9
Dodge: 26% standing (8% wolf cloak +6% uncanny + 6% Flurry + 3% ED, 3% Acrobatic), clickies of Improved uncanny dodge (50%)
Miss Chance: 55.6%/72.3% = 20/50% Concealment (Blur/Displacement) * 25% Incorporeal (Shadow Veil) * 26% dodge

Skills:
UMD: Always on: 44 -- (23 ranks +5 epic +5 Cha +3 competence +1 feat +2 luck +4 morale +1 profane) Situational: 52 (sometimes it is fun to cast PWK scrolls)
Bluff: 65 (23 ranks +8 epic +5 Cha + 20 item +1 feat +2 luck + 4 morale +1 profane)
Disable/Search: 86/79 (23 ranks +5 epic +8 Int + 20 item +6 shroud item +1 feat +2 luck + 4morale +1 profane +7 tools +3 tome)
Open Lock: 74 (16 ranks +5 epic + 15 dex + 20 item +1 feat +2 luck +4 morale +1 profane +2 exc +7 tools +6 shroud item)

Saves:
Fort: 48 – (11 base +2 epic +15 con +4 morale +7 resistance +4 insight +2 luck +1 Alchem +2 Stance)
Ref: 50/60 – (13 base +2 epic +15 dex +4 morale +7 resistance +4 insight +2 luck +1 Alchem +2 stance +4 uncanny +4 Versatility +2 PL)
Will: 51 – (11 base +2 epic +18 wis +4 morale +7 resistance +4 insight +2 luck +1 Alchem +2 stance)

Epic Destiny – GMoF:
Wisdom (3), Lily petal (1), A Dance of Flowers (3), Hail of Blows (1), Perfect Balance (3), Running with the wind (3), Orchid Blossom (1), Piercing Clarity (2), Drifting Lotus (1), Scattering of Petals (1), Everything is Nothing (1)
Twists: Fury of the Wild: Sense Weakness (4), Legendary Dreadnought: Legendary Tactics (1), Primal Avatar: Rejuvenation Cocoon (1)

rimble
09-13-2013, 11:02 AM
Debating on a radical change in class split to 16monk/4 rogue, allowing me to take advantage of Quivering Palm and its crazy trash removal potential. This however, would cost me rams might, 5d6 sneak damage, improved evasion, opportunist, and would require me to take magical training as a feat (to power cocoon), but that is offset by not needing to take as many monk stance feats.


Monks get Improved Evasion at Level 9.

Andoris
09-13-2013, 04:12 PM
Monks get Improved Evasion at Level 9.

Good catch, it is still a lot to give up for Quivering Palm, but might be worth it.

whereispowderedsilve
09-27-2013, 06:11 PM
A friendly Bump -- very interesting/interested! Keep up the great work! :P! :)!