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Rogann
09-03-2013, 03:08 PM
Max Spell Power: (18 sorc/2fvs WF)
150 Equipment Bonus
30 Implement Bonus
25 Psionic Bonus (ear dweller)
25 Alchemical Bonus (Potion of Superior Inferno)
47 (63 AP spent on Fire/Air Savant)
17 (17 AP spent in Angel of Vengence)
50 (Fire Savant Innates)
15 (Air Savant tier 5 "Power of Flame")
25 (Conflagration)
30 (scourge)
30 action boost bonus
50 Draconic Fury
30 Red Dragon Heritage
45 Sigil of battering Spellcraft (tier 4 twist)
15 Fey Form (tier 2 twist)
20 Epic Spell Power: Fire
70 Spellcraft
15 Artifact
150 Maximize Spell
75 Empower Spell
TOTAL: 914+ fire spell power (more spellcraft= higher total)

http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j376/rogann1/yhfaefafefrfr09032013_2035_zpsb147b3d2.png

^18 sorc/ 2 fvs max spell power attempt!
I WAS MISSING:
5 alchemical
14 spellcraft
15 artifact
25 psionic
6 equiptment
5 from "power of flame" Only granted me +10
150 Maximize
75 Empower
TOTAL: 914 fire spell power

It would appear everything stacks.

thesnoman
09-03-2013, 04:53 PM
Don't think you're missing anything - I know Savants can (theoretically) get stupid high Max Spell Power at a ridiculous cost of Spell Points and Feats while in Draconic Incarnation.

But... can you confirm that everything stacks? I don't have a fire savant to play with right now because I'm happy with the high damage output and low spell point cost of a Shiradi Air Savant. I also don't have all of the items you have listed (eardweller, 144 SP Item, etc).

Is this a confirmed in game number or just playing with numbers to try to figure out a theoretical high?

Rogann
09-03-2013, 06:37 PM
But... can you confirm that everything stacks? I don't have a fire savant to play with right now because I'm happy with the high damage output and low spell point cost of a Shiradi Air Savant. I also don't have all of the items you have listed (eardweller, 144 SP Item, etc).

Is this a confirmed in game number or just playing with numbers to try to figure out a theoretical high?

I'm positive everything stacks. I was just seeing what the absolute max was. I have everything except Ear Dweller and 70 spellcraft (missing 13). I'll try and get the SS for you.

Munkenmo
09-03-2013, 06:58 PM
What's the breakdown on spell craft?

23 ranks
+8epic
+20 spellsight item
+4 gh
+1 profane (motu hat)
+3 skill focus
+5 epic skill focus
+6 exceptional skills
+3 luck
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73

Lot of room to improve that still with stat modifier, completionist bard song etc.

Id honestly be surprised if you couldn't break 100 spell craft in a max spell power build.

Cetus
09-03-2013, 07:39 PM
You can get a 150 stick, 144 isn't max.

So, add 6 to that number

Wizza
09-04-2013, 06:06 AM
Innates are 6, so 60 Spell power.
Potion from Jorasco are +25, not +20.
Max Spell power is 150 not 144.

+10, +5, +6 to your list so +21.

Nice number. Close to impossible to get but still a nice number.

Rogann
09-04-2013, 06:29 PM
Changed up the Max spellpower. Max spell power is 18 sorc/2fvs. You can't count the 6th innate. If you do. You'd lose scourge and 4 more spell power for a total of 34 spell power(you'd gain 10 and lose 24). Added the extra bonuses. Max is 914 with 70 spellcraft. With proper gear and buffs you can get even higher depending on spellcraft total.


Does the Human versatility +30 spell power boost stack with the FVS spell power boost? If so. Thats an extra +30 Spell Power.
I think they get a skill focus too. So +3 spellcraft is a net gain of 1 spellpower (you lose 2.25 spellpower and gain 3)

Wizza
09-05-2013, 03:26 AM
Changed up the Max spellpower. Max spell power is 18 sorc/2fvs. You can't count the 6th innate. If you do. You'd lose scourge and 4 more spell power for a total of 34 spell power(you'd gain 10 and lose 24). Added the extra bonuses. Max is 914 with 70 spellcraft. With proper gear and buffs you can get even higher depending on spellcraft total.


Does the Human versatility +30 spell power boost stack with the FVS spell power boost? If so. Thats an extra +30 Spell Power.
I think they get a skill focus too. So +3 spellcraft is a net gain of 1 spellpower (you lose 2.25 spellpower and gain 3)

Oops forgot about the split.

And no, I don't think Human and FVS SP boost stack. Not sure thou.

darthhento
09-05-2013, 05:34 AM
The number is nice and shiny, yet it's mostly useless. You can keep that extra boost active for, what, 15 seconds provided that you are stationary because of the sigil?

Also, based on your screenshot I'd say you're about 10-15 DC below a standard DI Sorc which means you're getting a lot of reflex/evasion saves thus your damage is halved or completely ignored on EE content.

So other then the screenshot with pretty temporary number how is that build supposed to preform in EE content?

Wizza
09-05-2013, 05:38 AM
The number is nice and shiny, yet it's mostly useless. You can keep that extra boost active for, what, 15 seconds provided that you are stationary because of the sigil?

Also, based on your screenshot I'd say you're about 10-15 DC below a standard DI Sorc which means you're getting a lot of reflex/evasion saves thus your damage is halved or completely ignored on EE content.

So other then the screenshot with pretty temporary number how is that build supposed to preform in EE content?

This is a thread about Max Spell power, not his build. It's just for shiny high numbers. I said it myself: nice number but close to impossible to get.

Munkenmo
09-05-2013, 08:07 AM
From a theoretical standpoint, 121 is the maximum spell craft I can come up with for this max spell power build without using store pots / abishai cookies.



Int (human)
18 base
7 levels
5 tome
Build 30
1 human enh
6 Epic destiny
1 tier 1 twist
2 completionist
3 epic feats
+ED / feat / enh 43
11 item
3 insight
1 exceptional
+items 58
2 inspire exellence
2 airship
+buffs 62
2 yugo
3 alchemical
3 action boost
+short term 70



spell craft

23 ranks
8 epic
Base 31
3 luck item
6 exceptional skills
20 spellsight
+items 60
2 completionist
3 skill focus feat
5 epic skill focus
+feats 70
4 greater heroism
1 profane bonus
+easy buffs 75
4 action boost
3 alchemical skills
+short term 82
2 inspire competance
5 insight (monk void light void)
2 monk (fire light fire)
+from others 91
30 max int mod.

Total Spell Craft 121


Idol of goodfortune can be used for +3 luck as the eardweller clicky supersedes the planar conflux set.

This would increase to 124 if abishai cookies and store pots are counted.

Munkenmo
09-05-2013, 08:23 AM
Does the Human versatility +30 spell power boost stack with the FVS spell power boost? If so. Thats an extra +30 Spell Power.
I think they get a skill focus too. So +3 spellcraft is a net gain of 1 spellpower (you lose 2.25 spellpower and gain 3)

Human and fvs spell power action boosts don't stack.
Humans don't get skill focus for spell power or umd

6ap in human tree can get you +6 spellcraft during skill focus action boosts though, net gain of 2spell power.