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maddong
08-04-2013, 08:12 PM
My first build was to be a half orc barbarian/rogue/ranger in LD with manyshot but it looks like there aren't enough AP to get brutality, no mercy, and bully (24, 26, and 36 I believe) not to mention crit rage with them. So I scrapped that one and came up with these other builds:

1.
Half-orc Fighter 12/Paladin 4/Ranger 4/LD
kensei tier 5 (31 ap, keen edge)
kotc tier 3 (22 ap, divine might, exalted smite 3/divine sac 3)
horc tier 3 (24 ap, brutality)
arcane archer tier 1 (3 ap, conjure arrows)
Feats: PA, C, GC, IC, PBS, manyshot, stunning blow, THF, ITHF, GTHF, WF/WS/GWF/GWS
Epic Feats: OWC, ICR, epic damage reduction
ED Feats: PTHF, epic tactician
Twists: sense weakness, pin, primal scream
Uses stunning blow or pin to set up 250% helpless damage (1.5 base + 0.5 LD + 0.3 SW + 0.2 brutality) then manyshot or exalted smite/divine sacrifice.

2.
Human Fighter 12/Paladin 4/Monk 4/LD
kensei tier 5 (33 ap, centered 2 hander)
ninja spy tier 4 (26 ap, no mercy) or shintao tier 2 (11 ap, 15 PRR)
kotc tier 3 (20 ap, divine might, exalted smite 3/divine sac 2)
Feats: PA, C, GC, IC, PBS, WFR, bow strength, RS, manyshot, zen archery, monk stance x3 (15 PRR), WF/WS/GWF/GWS
Epic Feats: stunning blow, OWC, ICR (initial post said IMA but you don't qualify for it)
ED Feats: PTHF, epic tactician
Twists: sense weakness, pin, primal scream/dance of flowers (depending on stunning blow dc)
Uses stunning blow or pin to set up 260% helpless damage (1.5 + 0.5 + 0.3 + 0.3) then manyshot or exalted smite/divine sacrifice. Uses monk level 18 ki strikes.

3.
Human Monk 12/Paladin 4/Rogue 4/FOTW
henshin tier 5 (32 ap, 15-20/x4 stout walking stick)
kotc tier 3 (18 ap, divine might, exalted smite 3/divine sac 1)
acrobat tier 1 (4 ap, 15% attack speed with staves... on live the attack speed stacks with haste, does it stack in the beta?)
ninja spy tier 4 (26 ap, no mercy, 25% incorp)
Feats: PA, C, GC, ICB, PBS, WFR, bow strength, RS, manyshot, zen archery, grandmaster of stances
Epic Feats: OWC, improved martial arts, epic damage reduction
ED Feats: PTHF, holy strike
Twists: dance of flowers, pin, rej cocoon
Uses exalted smite adrenalines (x30 damage) followed by divine sacrifice when they are knocked down or pin followed by manyshot or adrenaline smite.

4.
Warforged Artificer 16/Paladin 4/FOTW
warforged tier 1 (16 ap, repair systems, +2 con, improved power attack)
kotc tier 3 (22 ap, divine might, exalted smite 3/divine sac 3)
arcanotech tier 2 (11 ap, wand and scroll mastery, efficient quicken)
battle engineer tier 4 (25 ap, level 12 core, damage boost, haste boost, 5 PRR, +2 strength)
Feats: adamantine body, PA, C, GC, IC, PBS, WFR, bow strength, RS, manyshot, quicken
Epic Feats: OWC, ICR, epic damage reduction
ED Feats: PTHF, holy strike
Twists: pin, brace for impact, momentum swing
Uses exalted smite adrenalines (x25 damage with a x3 weapon base) followed by divine sacrifice when they are knocked down or pin followed by manyshot or adrenaline smite.

5.
Warforged Artificer 16/Monk 2/Ranger 2/LD (ie juggernaut)
shintao tier 2 (11 ap, iron skin 15 PRR)
warforged tier 1 (6 ap, repair systems)
henshin tier 2 (11 ap, quick strike for 25% staff doublestrike)
arcane archer tier 1 (3 ap, conjure arrows)
tempest tier 2 (13 ap, haste boost and improved dodge)
arcanotech tier 2 (11 ap, wand and scroll mastery, efficient quicken)
battle engineer tier 4 (23 ap, level 12 core, damage boost, endless fusilade, 5 PRR, +1 strength)
Feats: PA, C, GC, IC, PBS, manyshot, zen archery, ICR, monk stance x3 (15 PRR), quicken, precise shot (or toughness)
Epic Feats: OWC, improved precise shot (or epic toughness), epic damage reduction (10 PRR)
ED Feats: PTHF, holy strike
Twists: sense weakness, pin, dance of flowers
Uses pin to set up manyshot. Uses monk level 18 ki strikes. Has 45 PRR before equipment using a staff.

Cetus
08-05-2013, 08:18 PM
I originally planned on the 12 fighter 4monk/4 pally because I saved myself a twist by reaching turn undead through level 4 pally.

Now, I'm going back to 12 fighter 6 monk 2 pally for the extra feat slots in order to fit in GTHF.

Feats:

Ranged:

IC: Ranged
WF: Ranged
Bow Strength
Point Blank shot
Rapid Shot
Manyshot

Melee:

WF: Slash
GWF: Slash
(These two make me want to slit my wrists, what a waste...)
Weapon Spec: Slash
IC: Slashing
Power Attack
Stunning Blow
Cleave
Great Cleave
Overwhelming crit
THF
ITHF
GTHF

Monk related:

Master stance (since adept is free with 6 monk)
Zen archery

Completionist

That's 21 feats not including the epic feats provided at levels 26/28, those will be:

PTHF
To be decided

Twists:

Turn Undead
Dance of flowers
Sense weakness/endless LOH

What I lose:
Pin - which sucks, but I got shadow fade and GTHF in return.

maddong
08-06-2013, 03:14 PM
In build 2 if you remove grandmaster, gws, and ima then it essentially comes down to completionist incorp and icr vs pin. Aren't you better off with pin?

I think juggernauts make out like bandits though.

serthcore
08-07-2013, 04:32 PM
3.
Human Monk 12/Paladin 4/Rogue 4/FOTW
henshin tier 5 (32 ap, 15-20/x4 stout walking stick)


A minor thing:
Last time i checked Staff training and pulverizer didnt stack, 99% sure. So it would be 17-20 x4. Will check it next time lama is up.

I like 2 and 3, but going for 12/6/2 in version 2 as cetus says makes sense.

Hendrik
08-07-2013, 07:32 PM
Easy.


The one YOU find the most fun playing and not what a bunch of other people think.