New to the class, 32 point light monk build, what do you think?

[Paroon]

EDIT: I'm only keeping the original build posted in this for reference, more current build is third post down (my second post)

END EDIT!

So I have a fighter I'm going to TR for a third time, and it's been my main class, but I wanted to start a new character to try something different, and I've seen how much fun people had with monk, so figured I'd give it a go!

I have 32 point build unlocked, and I figured light monk with the super heals would be the way to go, and thought wisdom based would be a good idea. Also figured dwarf, because, why not?

Anyway, here's the build, please let me know what you think, and if you think a particular thing should change, lemme know why! I want to know the reason x doesn't work vs y, so I can better learn the class! I rolled a lvl 4 just to poke at it, and had ALOT of fun thus far, smacking things in the face really fast has been fun xD

And without further adoodle, here's the build!


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.16.01
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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Dwarf Female
(20 Monk)
Hit Points: 307
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 16
Will: 21

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Strength 14 16 16
Dexterity 16 18 18
Constitution 16 18 19
Intelligence 8 10 10
Wisdom 16 23 28
Charisma 6 8 8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Balance 7 23 27
Bluff -2 -1 -1
Concentration 7 26 40
Diplomacy -2 -1 -1
Disable Device n/a n/a n/a
Haggle -2 -1 -1
Heal 3 9 9
Hide 3 19 19
Intimidate -2 -1 -1
Jump 5 10 10
Listen 3 9 9
Move Silently 3 18 18
Open Lock n/a n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a n/a
Repair -1 0 0
Search -1 0 2
Spot 3 9 9
Swim 2 3 3
Tumble 4 5 5
Use Magic Device n/a n/a n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Void Strike I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I


Level 3 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Lifting the Veil
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: The Receptive Earth
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 5 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Restoring the Balance


Level 6 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
Enhancement: Shintao Monk I


Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II


Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Enhancement: Difficulty at the Beginning
Enhancement: Adept of Wind


Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Rise of the Phoenix


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise III
Enhancement: Void Strike II


Level 11 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Adept of Flame


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Shintao Monk II
Enhancement: Adept of Rain


Level 13 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Enhancement: Master of Thunder


Level 14 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Enhancement: Master of Stone


Level 15 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery III


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Enhancement: Master of Bonfires


Level 17 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Enhancement: Master of the Sea


Level 18 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Enhancement: Shintao Monk III
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II


Level 19 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Enhancement: Monk Serenity
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom III




Again, would really appreciate some feedback. I did some forum searching to get the build, the enhancements are what I'm having the most trouble with, want to get that improved recovery and shintao 3 and wisdom 3, but wow, didn't think it would be so hard to use enhancements, that's what I get for only playing fighter up till now I guess xD

Thanks in advance!

[johnnyputrid]

I would ditch all of the Lifting the Veil through Rise of the Phoenix enhancements. Mostly all they do is replicate potions and they cost valuable ki you could be using to stun opponents with. Just take Monk Recovery I-III and you will be set up for the Shintao enhancements. Rise of the Phoenix is marginally useful, but I think you would be better off grabbing a hireling and parking it somewhere, only calling it over to raise/resurrect as needed.

I would also recommend picking one stance and maxing it out instead of taking various tiers of the other 3. Wind Stance is all-in-all and excellent choice, though Earth stance is quite nice as well. I have 2 light monks, one wind, one earth and both are very fun to play. You aren't taking Void Strike IV, so there is no point in investing anything in stances you likely won't be using. There are those that might recommend switching stances for various reasons, but I've found that just sticking with your chosen stance keeps it simple and uncomplicated. And with all the buttons a monk tends to press, simple is good.

[Paroon]

Awesome! Thank you for that input!

Here's the build I came up with based on what you said.

Note that I still do take Void Strike I, but I can't find an alternative, everything else can't be taken because I need to spend that ONE AP to open the others. But what do you think?


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.16.01
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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Dwarf Female
(20 Monk)
Hit Points: 362
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 16
Will: 21

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 14 16
Dexterity 16 18
Constitution 16 20
Intelligence 8 10
Wisdom 16 28
Charisma 6 8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 7 28
Bluff -2 -1
Concentration 7 46
Diplomacy -2 -1
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -2 -1
Heal 3 9
Hide 3 20
Intimidate -2 -1
Jump 5 10
Listen 3 9
Move Silently 3 19
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 0
Search -1 2
Spot 3 9
Swim 2 3
Tumble 4 5
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Void Strike I


Level 3 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II


Level 5 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II


Level 6 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
Enhancement: Shintao Monk I
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II


Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II


Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense III
Enhancement: Improved Concentration III


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise III


Level 11 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery III


Level 13 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Enhancement: Shintao Monk II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration IV


Level 14 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Enhancement: Master of Thunder


Level 15 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise IV


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV


Level 17 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II


Level 18 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Enhancement: Shintao Monk III
Enhancement: Grandmaster of Storms


Level 19 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom III
Enhancement: Monk Serenity




Thanks again!