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MoonlitSilver
06-03-2013, 03:02 AM
(it's spelled glamour not glamer it is not one of the words that's spelled differently in American English that is going to drive me insane every time I see it.)

When we got the glamer armor, I had a list of armor kits I was ready to buy in permanent, swappable glamer form. And then, much to my surprise... they just weren't there. It looks like a few of the armor kits got glamer armor versions--I noticed the PDK, spider, and beast kits were intact--but most were just close and not quite what I wanted. Maybe the artists hate to repeat themselves, or maybe someone decided all the old stuff is terrible and mustn't survive. Which would be a pity, because I really liked some of the old armors.

Just one example:
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/sterlingsilver3000/randomness/cannithold.jpg

This old armor kit is the cloth version of Cannith 2 - Black/Gold. Sleek. Dignified on its own--imagine it on a mage of means with that gold trimming, or add a captain's chapeau from crystal cove and it suddenly becomes roguish and dashing. And the crossed sash draped over the torso armor is, in my opinion, the accessory that really ties the whole look together. This is what I put on my very first set of dragontouched armor, and it still looks fabulous.

The closest thing I can get from the new glamered glamoured armors?
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/sterlingsilver3000/randomness/cannithnew.jpg

This thing.

"Black Cannith Outfit with Talisman Guard"

(I approve of the more descriptive names rather than just calling the base kit "1" and the kit with accessories "2", by the way.)

As for the outfit itself, though... well...

Really?

Personally, I don't call those talismans, I call 'em boob banners, and they look silly. I'm not going to go on a big long rant about whether the looks of the glamoured armors in general are better or worse than the old armor kits, because that's a very subjective thing. But wouldn't it be easy enough to make glamour armor versions of the old armor kits so people can get the ones they want? Because like I said at the start: I have a list of armor kits I will drop turbine points on as soon as I can get them in glamour form, starting with the one above.

Edit: Also! There are some named items I wouldn't mind getting as glamour armor. Garments of Equilibrium (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Garments_of_Equilibrium) spring immediately to mind.

cru121
06-03-2013, 03:29 AM
glamour
Blame WotC. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/glossary&term=Glossary_dnd_glamersubschool&alpha=G

MoonlitSilver
06-03-2013, 06:18 AM
Blame WotC. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/glossary&term=Glossary_dnd_glamersubschool&alpha=G

I shall, thank you for telling me where the mutilation comes from. I now know where to direct my ire.

Satyriasys
06-03-2013, 07:21 AM
The Spider one I was looking for was unavailable with the new glamour system last time I checked. :mad:

Either they are doing away with certain looks or are postponing updating some of these to the new system to try to sell the old style kits before they are discontinued.

MasterAO
06-03-2013, 08:18 AM
Eh, glamer is a separate word.

From http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/glamer:
Noun

glamer

(archaic, Scotland) Noise.
(archaic, Scotland) The visual influence of a charm, causing people to see things differently from what they are. Hence, to cast a glamer is to cause a visual deception.

TrinityTurtle
06-03-2013, 08:31 AM
I kinda like the second picture a lot better, I think its' cleaner and more pleasant to look at than the weird ruffles on the first one. Then again, I don't like most of the vanity armors, I think way too many are ugly and impractical as armor. *shrugs*

QuartermasterX
06-03-2013, 11:01 AM
The Spider one I was looking for was unavailable with the new glamour system last time I checked. :mad:

Either they are doing away with certain looks or are postponing updating some of these to the new system to try to sell the old style kits before they are discontinued.

We have had some technical issues while implementing the new system, and as a result we were not able to release some sets of the legacy armor kits, such as Spider. However, these should be fixed released in a future update.

In addition, new armor kits will be released over time.

enochiancub
06-03-2013, 11:17 AM
I think they meant it in line with old Scottish folklore style glamer. Like Sidhe and woodswise magic type illusions to change appearance or scenery on a whim.

That aside. I'm right there with you on the being ready to buy new sets when they're released. I was beyond bummed at what was initially offered.

Thanks for letting us know whats going on in that regard, QuartermasterX. I eagerly await my chance to throw my hard earned money at you for fluff items (and no I'm not even remotely being sarcastic, I have a fluff sickness.)

Torvaldsberg
06-03-2013, 11:49 AM
What I would like to see is a 'Glamer Stone', store-bought, dropped, or daily dice reward. The stone would allow you to permanently change any in-game armor into a glamered version. Some of the current glamered armors are nice, but it would also be very interesting to have the option to use the look of some of the in-game armors. Ideally, this concept could eventually be extended to weapons and shields.

emtp
06-03-2013, 12:01 PM
We have had some technical issues while implementing the new system, and as a result we were not able to release some sets of the legacy armor kits, such as Spider. However, these should be fixed released in a future update.

In addition, new armor kits will be released over time.

hay kilts would be a great armor add on

Satyriasys
06-03-2013, 12:25 PM
Some plain robes and medieval or classical style armor would be very welcome. Fantastical and flashy are fine but some options for those of us who aren't 12 years old would be nice. ;)

HAL
06-03-2013, 01:38 PM
(it's spelled glamour not glamer it is not one of the words that's spelled differently in American English that is going to drive me insane every time I see it.)

When we got the glamer armor, I had a list of armor kits I was ready to buy in permanent, swappable glamer form. And then, much to my surprise... they just weren't there. It looks like a few of the armor kits got glamer armor versions--I noticed the PDK, spider, and beast kits were intact--but most were just close and not quite what I wanted. Maybe the artists hate to repeat themselves, or maybe someone decided all the old stuff is terrible and mustn't survive. Which would be a pity, because I really liked some of the old armors.

This old armor kit is the cloth version of Cannith 2 - Black/Gold. Sleek. Dignified on its own--imagine it on a mage of means with that gold trimming, or add a captain's chapeau from crystal cove and it suddenly becomes roguish and dashing. And the crossed sash draped over the torso armor is, in my opinion, the accessory that really ties the whole look together. This is what I put on my very first set of dragontouched armor, and it still looks fabulous.

This thing.

"Black Cannith Outfit with Talisman Guard"

(I approve of the more descriptive names rather than just calling the base kit "1" and the kit with accessories "2", by the way.)

As for the outfit itself, though... well...

Really?

Personally, I don't call those talismans, I call 'em boob banners, and they look silly. I'm not going to go on a big long rant about whether the looks of the glamoured armors in general are better or worse than the old armor kits, because that's a very subjective thing. But wouldn't it be easy enough to make glamour armor versions of the old armor kits so people can get the ones they want? Because like I said at the start: I have a list of armor kits I will drop turbine points on as soon as I can get them in glamour form, starting with the one above.

Edit: Also! There are some named items I wouldn't mind getting as glamour armor. Garments of Equilibrium (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Garments_of_Equilibrium) spring immediately to mind.

The word "glamour" comes from "glamer" and used to mean the same thing back before there was Hollywood and fashion magazines :)

And I agree with the OP - the first picture looks much better than the second with the strange ribbons hanging off the chest. I don't know whether there is only one artist that does all the "armor" who has this "style" or if it is the Art Director who says "in order to make models look different we'll just randomly tack stuff on in places for no apparent reason". This has always made me wince. One of my current toons has a suit with these strange pads just strapped onto the thighs :{

Sillk
06-03-2013, 03:58 PM
After the last update I had read:

-Warforged have exclusive Glamered Armor for their race.
-Glamered armor is available in heavy, medium, light, robe, outfits and select costumes.
-The effect of the cosmetic item can be toggled on and off on your characters inventory paper-doll, or removed from the cosmetic equipment slot and placed back in your inventory.
-Cosmetic armors have unlimited uses and are bound to account.

I thought this was a great change. So I went to the DDO store yesterday and was looking around, and found an armor kit I liked. It really fit the look I wanted, and I was happy to equip it to my cosmetic armor slot, like my existing Spider Mask, and run around Stormreach with my new look (Warforged Spider-Docent).

When I looked at all the armor kits in the store, I didn't see anything that pointed out a difference between the armor kits available. I was thinking "-Many of the styles from the armor appearance kits have been converted to Glamered armor."

After equipping this cosmetic armor, it disappeared and bound my "meh" docent to character... so I went to the Release notes:

-Armor Appearance Kits, from the previous cosmetic system, will remain available in the DDO Store through June 30th.

Why would you do this??? Will existing armor kits, much like the existing hats, be converted IF WE HAVE ALREADY USED THEM, or did I just blow 450 TP? All my cosmetic hats were converted.

The new cosmetic armor system is a great idea... so leaving the old 1-time use, bind your stuff to character kits on the DDO Store is just dumb.

I wonder how many people bought one, thinking it was the other.......

GreenGurgler
06-03-2013, 04:01 PM
We have had some technical issues while implementing the new system, and as a result we were not able to release some sets of the legacy armor kits, such as Spider. However, these should be fixed released in a future update.

In addition, new armor kits will be released over time.

While were on the subject, has there been any word from Turbine if there will be a way to convert my OLD cosmetic armour kits into the new style? You know, the ones I bought with real money which will become near useless when compared to the new kits??? Or is the answer... so sad, too bad, you gotta buy it twice if you want to take advantage of the new, shiny, better system we implemented????

dejafu
06-04-2013, 06:11 AM
Then again, I don't like most of the vanity armors, I think way too many are ugly and impractical as armor. *shrugs*

As for the impractical comment, that's the nice thing about the new "glamer/glamour" fluff text - what you're seeing is an illusion, you can be wearing something completely practical "underneath" the effect. It even gives an excuse as to why the armor kits are so much more revealing than 95% of the armor in the game.

It fits beautifully with Eberron's whole "low-level magic is common" theme. Adventuring is all about fame and glory - why wouldn't they try to look stylish in the process? Heck, wearing glamered armor would even have a strategic bonus - enemies will try to exploit that seemingly exposed midriff only to find they're stabbing a very solid and practical steel plate!

Now all we need is some gender-equality - bring on the loincloth-wearing male barbarians!

1021

(It's okay, he's actually wearing a very sensible parka)

SisAmethyst
06-04-2013, 03:09 PM
Some plain robes and medieval or classical style armor would be very welcome. Fantastical and flashy are fine but some options for those of us who aren't 12 years old would be nice. ;)

Yes, I actually miss outfits like you would see on a LARP or medieval festival which is sad, but hopefully with the new cosmetic possibilities we may one day in the future get those too...

InsanityIsYourFriend
06-04-2013, 04:25 PM
As for the impractical comment, that's the nice thing about the new "glamer/glamour" fluff text - what you're seeing is an illusion, you can be wearing something completely practical "underneath" the effect. It even gives an excuse as to why the armor kits are so much more revealing than 95% of the armor in the game.

It fits beautifully with Eberron's whole "low-level magic is common" theme. Adventuring is all about fame and glory - why wouldn't they try to look stylish in the process? Heck, wearing glamered armor would even have a strategic bonus - enemies will try to exploit that seemingly exposed midriff only to find they're stabbing a very solid and practical steel plate!

Now all we need is some gender-equality - bring on the loincloth-wearing male barbarians!

1021

(It's okay, he's actually wearing a very sensible parka)

only if the female barbarians get one too! don't worry its just like going to the beach only the girls are wearing fur instead of thin cloth

adamkatt
06-04-2013, 06:57 PM
We have had some technical issues while implementing the new system, and as a result we were not able to release some sets of the legacy armor kits, such as Spider. However, these should be fixed released in a future update.

In addition, new armor kits will be released over time.

Also, please let me pull an old armor kit off an old armor/docent/robe.

adamkatt
06-04-2013, 07:00 PM
What I would like to see is a 'Glamer Stone', store-bought, dropped, or daily dice reward. The stone would allow you to permanently change any in-game armor into a glamered version. Some of the current glamered armors are nice, but it would also be very interesting to have the option to use the look of some of the in-game armors. Ideally, this concept could eventually be extended to weapons and shields.


The old armor kits were perm.....
We dont want this now..

Ironclans_evil_twin
06-06-2013, 09:20 PM
The old armor kits were perm.....
We dont want this now..

that's not what he asked for at all, he asked for a way to take the look of one already existing armor and turn it into a cosmetic armor, via a store bought item.

A request that might be the single most requested cosmetic store item in the games history :)

Arlannis
06-07-2013, 01:11 AM
Back in the days of the old AC system, I put a lot of effort into finding armors that I thought looked just right for a toon. I'd even buy them on the AH just to see how they looked, then put them back up for auction when they weren't right. When the new crafting system came out I had dreams of re-crafting the same armor over and over as I moved up levels, just to keep the right look.

Then along came the new armor system and armors became obsolete every four levels or so. So much for that...

Just to make things worse, some of the new armors are just hopelessly silly. Spikes I was okay with as they were a part of the look of official 3/3.5 D&D, but the rage in plate mail right now is inanely huge shoulder pauldrons (or whatever they're called) that would both get in the way and block the wearer's view without doing a thing to protect him/her.

All of which is my way of saying, yeah! The ability to make a cosmetic out of any suit of armor you want would be a huge improvement. Nothing gets me to waste my precious Turbine Points on all this decorative cosmetic trash -- but that... that would finally do it.

Torvaldsberg
06-07-2013, 12:04 PM
that's not what he asked for at all, he asked for a way to take the look of one already existing armor and turn it into a cosmetic armor, via a store bought item.

A request that might be the single most requested cosmetic store item in the games history :)


Exactly. Imagine being able to keep the look of you favorite in-game armor for the life of your character. No more being limited to what the store has available, but whatever look fits your concept for your character. As long as that look is in the game, you would be able to wear it for as long as you like and be effective.

What I have always wanted to see in a game is a 'two slot' system for all viewable equipment. Two slots for each armor piece that is visible, two slots for each weapon, two slots for a shield, etc. One slot is for stats, the other for appearance. It could work similarly to the augment system now. Buy a longsword 'blank' that has two slots. Loot an awesome 'appearance shard' and slot it. Throw in a crafted 2(1d6) flaming 'stats shard' and you have a 2-12 fire damage longsword. Same with armor or shields. Any current items stats could be available on a 'stats shard', and you wouldn't be stuck with an item that doesn't fit the life of your toon. The variety that would be available in this type of system would be staggering.

FlaviusMaximus
06-14-2013, 03:32 AM
What I would like to see is a 'Glamer Stone', store-bought, dropped, or daily dice reward. The stone would allow you to permanently change any in-game armor into a glamered version. Some of the current glamered armors are nice, but it would also be very interesting to have the option to use the look of some of the in-game armors. Ideally, this concept could eventually be extended to weapons and shields.

I don't know if I like the idea of taking the look of named items since it might be a bit misleading, but I really want to be able to transfer the look of random gen items or at least have the option of grabbing those kits from the store. For example, I would gladly replace the look of any existing robes with these cleanly designed lootgen robes;

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/149/lccl.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/441/lccl.png/)

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SaneDitto
07-10-2013, 08:10 PM
I'd love to have either more glamered versions of armour kits, or a glamered armour "blank" to plug lootgen/named stuff in. I'll even pay!

I mean, that's the reason I've been keeping this around:

http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss244/GoldenAshtray/SHINY_zpse70cb671.jpg

OverlordOfRats
07-16-2013, 04:51 PM
Any word on when we might see some more?

And Monster Manuals also.

Soon?
SoonTM?
Sometime before the universe ends?

QuartermasterX
07-23-2013, 10:27 AM
What I would like to see is a 'Glamer Stone', store-bought, dropped, or daily dice reward. The stone would allow you to permanently change any in-game armor into a glamered version.

Great idea... we have been looking into doing something like this.


Any word on when we might see some more?

Soon?
SoonTM?
Sometime before the universe ends?

Some new cosmetic armors are coming out very soon.

Wipey
07-23-2013, 10:39 AM
Great idea... we have been looking into doing something like this.
It has been suggested many times before.

Some new cosmetic armors are coming out very soon.
Less expensive, more variety ( doesn't even have to be completely different style, different colour schemes, minor details options would make a difference ).
No more huge/different pauldrons :)

Mandyb
07-23-2013, 10:45 AM
Great idea... we have been looking into doing something like this.



Some new cosmetic armors are coming out very soon.

Do we get previews of them? like screenshots? that would be nice :)

Ovrad
07-23-2013, 10:51 AM
No more huge/different pauldrons :)

This. Seriously!

Failedlegend
07-23-2013, 11:44 AM
Great idea... we have been looking into doing something like this.



It has been suggested many times before.


Re-read his post...it's written in past tense as in they have seen these suggestions and someone at corporate finally added it to the list of "Things you can mention on the forums" so he responded to this to let us know that the highly popular request is a WIP.

Now if only we could get an upgrade to visual customization during character creation...even something as Simple as a Height (use PnP racial heights to determine extremes) and a Bulk/Build slider would create alot of variety...I don't expect Skyrim level of sliders but the more the better. I'm sure alot of people would love a shorter less bulky WF for their Rogues, Wizards, etc. or a more bulky slightly taller halfling barbarian.

dejafu
07-23-2013, 12:43 PM
Do we get previews of them? like screenshots? that would be nice :)

I imagine they're probably just putting out some of the old armor kits that didn't get translated into glamer the first time around. Which I'm still glad to see, mind you!

Oh, and Quartermaster? Big ol' high five to you and whoever else decided to finally go forward with the "glamer stone" idea (or however you plan on implementing it). I know a lot of people that will be very happy with this :D

OverlordOfRats
07-23-2013, 05:37 PM
Some new cosmetic armors are coming out very soon.

Yeah! Thank you.

Torvaldsberg
07-24-2013, 03:45 PM
Heh...maybe I should have copyrighted "glamer stone". I will give it to them for free if they will get me an eye-patch for my human toon.

Torvaldsberg
10-01-2014, 09:40 AM
Stone/Mirror...either way, I am happy with the way update 23 addressed this issue.

Still waiting for an eye-patch tho ;)

amylee4000
10-05-2014, 10:34 AM
Now if only we could get an upgrade to visual customization during character creation...even something as Simple as a Height (use PnP racial heights to determine extremes) and a Bulk/Build slider would create alot of variety...I don't expect Skyrim level of sliders but the more the better. I'm sure alot of people would love a shorter less bulky WF for their Rogues, Wizards, etc. or a more bulky slightly taller halfling barbarian.[/QUOTE]

Totally agree. better looking armor would be better. some of them like the pirate costume is too simple for the TP needed. I donĀ“t say to have very glamourous armor, but please, work a little bit more the appearence.

Or just the inclusion of ccolor dyes for armor could even make the characters more customizable.