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Solomace
02-03-2013, 03:28 AM
Hi all peeps,

I am reading and reading but obviously I'm missing something.

Simply put, how do I become a fighter/Ranger?

When I roll my class, I don't see anything to make a ranger or customer build them as one.

Can anyone advise me what I need to do please?

Cheers all.

FranOhmsford
02-03-2013, 03:35 AM
1. When you first create a character you're starting at lvl 1 so you can only pick one class at that point.

2. Fighter is under Melee BUT Rangers count as Specialists in DDO.

Now you've got the right idea btw - It's best to take the Ranger Lvl first because that will give you far more Skill Points for stuff like Intimidate, Bluff, Hide, Move Silently, Jump and UMD.

Now you haven't said whether you want to be mainly melee {Swords} or Ranged {Bows}?
Either way - Strength is extremely important - You will need a good dex too {for either Two Weapon Fighting Feat PreReqs OR for Improved Precise Shot} BUT Str is your main stat!

And remember NOT to dump Con!

tfangel
02-03-2013, 03:36 AM
You create a single class at first level, then on level ups you can select to take a different class. Just go to that new trainer for that level instead of going to your usual one. Figuring out the best levels to do this with what class is the tricky part, some levels are better for different classes.

FranOhmsford
02-03-2013, 03:40 AM
I forgot - Rangers don't start picking up spells at all Until Lvl 4 - Their Spellcasting stat is Wisdom BUT an 8 Base Wisdom and a +3 Wis item is all that's needed to cast Lvl 1 spells.
8 Base and a +6 item is all a Ranger will ever need {even if he/she is Pure Lvl 20}.

Narfle_the_Garthok
02-03-2013, 04:13 AM
What makes you want to take fighter? Or ranger for that matter.
Knowing this will help us determine if you really want a ranger18/fighter2, ranger 12/fighter6/artificer2 or just ranger 20. Or any other variation really.

Solomace
02-03-2013, 07:12 AM
Hi all,

Thanks for responding. I understand now.

I am looking to make a ... (tinfoil hat on time) a Drow ranger similar to he who should not be named for fear of backlash :)...

I will do some more reading now, to find out the best way to level my toon faster.

BTW, I had to buy my Drow toon, which I have no problem with, however I now have 600 points left to spend. Anything I should get to speed up my leveling or is it frowned upon buying things from the store:)...

Thanks again peeps.

Zirun
02-03-2013, 07:23 AM
BTW, I had to buy my Drow toon, which I have no problem with, however I now have 600 points left to spend. Anything I should get to speed up my leveling or is it frowned upon buying things from the store:)...

Thanks again peeps.

Adventure packs. Focus on mid-high level packs like Sands of Menechtarun, Ruins of Gianthold, and Vale of Twilight. There's a lack of quests at the higher levels and more than enough at low levels, so filling out the upper end is the most efficient. High-level quests tend to be a lot more interesting and fun, too.

Meretrix
02-03-2013, 07:33 AM
Ahh too bad you spent points on Drow, it is easy to unlock

Narfle_the_Garthok
02-03-2013, 08:28 AM
In that case you will probably want to make a rogue1/barb5/ranger14.
Start with 1 rogue. Then 6 levels of ranger for the basics of dualwield and manyshot.
Then 5 levels of barbarian. Because runspeed, rage improved uncanny dodge( which is lovely, use it lots) anc the flavor of sticking closer to the actual build of drizzl.
Then finish ranger. Giving evasion healing spells and more free feats.
Before rolling it read up on the forum and wiki about the classes and trapfinding and such.
This build is lovely for solo and contributes well to any group.
Use uncanny dodge and manyshot as oft as possible.

Stats could be base str 14 dex 16 con 14 int 14 wis 8 cha8
Not counting the +2 dex int cha, and -2 con you get.

The 600 points you have left and any you gain from favor should be spent on gianthold and vale. Wait untill you are at the lvk too buy it. There might be a discount between now and then.

Gianthold and vale should help you lvl from 13 to 25 and has excelent gear options.

Solomace
02-03-2013, 09:03 AM
Adventure packs. Focus on mid-high level packs like Sands of Menechtarun, Ruins of Gianthold, and Vale of Twilight. There's a lack of quests at the higher levels and more than enough at low levels, so filling out the upper end is the most efficient. High-level quests tend to be a lot more interesting and fun, too.

Cheers friend.


In that case you will probably want to make a rogue1/barb5/ranger14.
Start with 1 rogue. Then 6 levels of ranger for the basics of dualwield and manyshot.
Then 5 levels of barbarian. Because runspeed, rage improved uncanny dodge( which is lovely, use it lots) anc the flavor of sticking closer to the actual build of drizzl.
Then finish ranger. Giving evasion healing spells and more free feats.
Before rolling it read up on the forum and wiki about the classes and trapfinding and such.
This build is lovely for solo and contributes well to any group.
Use uncanny dodge and manyshot as oft as possible.

Stats could be base str 14 dex 16 con 14 int 14 wis 8 cha8
Not counting the +2 dex int cha, and -2 con you get.

The 600 points you have left and any you gain from favor should be spent on gianthold and vale. Wait untill you are at the lvk too buy it. There might be a discount between now and then.

Gianthold and vale should help you lvl from 13 to 25 and has excelent gear options.

And to you too, many thanks.

Narfle_the_Garthok
02-03-2013, 10:52 AM
Now, as for feats and skills.

Get toughness, soon. Preferably at lvl 1, as it does not require bab or a certain lvl of stat or whatever really.
Dodge, mobility and spring attack you need if you want the ranger melee prestige. They also add a nice bit of dodge bonus, which adds to your overal survivability.

Max out search, disable device, open lock and use magic device. This is so you can always take the role of trapper beyond just dps. The rest as you see fit. Do read up on them. It's nice to know the benefit of diplomacy in combat for instance.

From a gameplay only perspective, true neutral is a nice alignment for any non-paladin, non-monk umd-using toon.
As you can use umd to use items that have alignment restrictions and wont get hit by spells that deal (extra) dmg to characters of a certain alignment.

items:

For lvl 14+ white dragonscale isnt bad. Parasitic Breastplate with displacement guard is nice for later on, when you have enough ddo points for packs beyond vale and gianthold.

Consider khopeshes over scimitars. In pen and papers khopeshes don't exist with the stats they have in ddo. So there is something to say for just considering them the same fluffwise and go with the one that has better stats and available 'rares" such as the house C challenge khop.
Either way, vale will open the option of making green steel weapons. Which is about as good as it gets lvl 12-19

bonscott87
02-03-2013, 11:34 AM
Ahh too bad you spent points on Drow, it is easy to unlock

Agreed. Just to clarify for any other newbies reading, you unlock Drow with just 400 total favor which you can get with just a few hours of playing Korthos, Harbor and a couple Marketplace quests. Bonus is you get to play around with the game mechanics and see what you like and get you familiar with some low level quests. Then once you unlock the Drow you can roll a new Drow toon and go to town.

As for level advice, if you want to be strict to PnP Drizzt then you'll want the Barb levels but think about taking Fighter levels instead as you get a bunch more feats to work with. And do 6 fighter levels so you can get Kensai. So you could do Rogue 1/Fighter 6/Ranger 13. This will get you Tempest 2 and Kensai 1 with a lot of feats for weapons. It's a pretty killer build. But there is nothing wrong doing the Barb levels. One thing you'll learn on this forum is so much of the adivce is "min/max" and what to take to run in high level groups on Epic Elite. If you're just playing for fun and flavor mostly on normal/hard...then just build your toon how you want (just don't gimp yourself) and have fun.