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GeoBob
07-20-2012, 07:52 PM
Just made a pally build for my main, pretty straight forward and simple i think, main thing was i wanted a little feedback on stat selection/feat choice/enhancements. Main aim is a DPS build, starting out with Hunter of the Dead (Shield Mastery at 15 due to). Tanking, possibly? Not sure, but taking the DoS for more HP/STR. Any feedback appreciated. Intim should be able to hit about 50 or so easily (not planning on an intim build either) and UMD should be around 30+.


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Empazio Life 5 (Pally)
Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(20 Paladin)
Hit Points: 390
Spell Points: 300
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 25
Reflex: 13
Will: 14

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 18 26
Dexterity 8 8
Constitution 16 20
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 8 11
Charisma 16 18

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance -1 -1
Bluff 3 4
Concentration 3 9
Diplomacy 3 4
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 3 4
Heal -1 0
Hide -1 -1
Intimidate 7 29
Jump 4 8
Listen -1 0
Move Silently -1 -1
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 -1
Search -1 -1
Spot -1 0
Swim 4 8
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device 5 15

Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 2 (Paladin)


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Berserker's Fury


Level 4 (Paladin)


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 7 (Paladin)


Level 8 (Paladin)


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Paladin)


Level 11 (Paladin)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell


Level 13 (Paladin)


Level 14 (Paladin)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery


Level 16 (Paladin)


Level 17 (Paladin)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Paladin Weapons of Good
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery III
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Righteousness I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys I
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys II
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion I
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion II
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might III

LongLostBrother
07-23-2012, 01:01 PM
Can you confirm that Paladin Divine Might stacks with Defender of Siberys stance, as I am curious since both give Sacred bonuses and last I recall, same type of bonuses do not stack?

Also, you may want to reconsider Paladin Toughness III and get Racial Toughness II so you can re-allocate some other points to get Weapons of Good.

And since you are DoS, there is no real need for the Extra Lay of Hands III since you will, most of the time, be healed by the party healer and with the Unyielding Sovereignty that heals, you may want to reallocate the points to something else, may Bullwark of Good IV ?

Thoughts?

Krelar
07-23-2012, 01:10 PM
Can you confirm that Paladin Divine Might stacks with Defender of Siberys stance, as I am curious since both give Sacred bonuses and last I recall, same type of bonuses do not stack?


Divine might gives a sacred bonus to damage, defender stance gives a sacred bonus to strength which indirectly increases damage. Because of this they stack.

psteen1
07-23-2012, 02:54 PM
When you get some epic levels, I question the need for anything beyond toughness 1. You'll have plenty of HP and your AP has 10 other places that you will love to spend it.

GeoBob
07-23-2012, 10:08 PM
Also, you may want to reconsider Paladin Toughness III and get Racial Toughness II so you can re-allocate some other points to get Weapons of Good.

And since you are DoS, there is no real need for the Extra Lay of Hands III since you will, most of the time, be healed by the party healer and with the Unyielding Sovereignty that heals, you may want to reallocate the points to something else, may Bullwark of Good IV ?

Thoughts?

Weapons of Good is on the list, and i suppose that the toughness enhancements could be drops (wasnt thinking epic destiny) and i couldnt tell if you were saying unyielding sov heals, or i should get rid of it, but if u were saying the later, it is required for DoS 3. but thanks for the feedback! :D

red_cardinal
07-24-2012, 02:53 AM
I've done on my Horc paladin:
L1 - toughness,
L3 - tower shield,
L6 - power attack,
L9 - cleave,
L12 - greater cleave,
L15 - improved crit: slashing,
L18 - weapon focus: slashing.

Starting stats were the same.
At 4,8 and 12 - level up into STR - with +2 tome you get base 23 str.
At 16 and 20 - level up into CHA. With +2 tome you get base 20 cha.

Goal:
1. Get overwhelming critical at 21,
2. Dreadnought epic destiny.

I hope it works out as a cleaver build.

Also, I should be able to get Divine Might IV. But, I'm not sure if it's worth it.

akash
07-24-2012, 03:14 AM
I will start with few more INT to take the Combat Expertise instead of the past life feat or greater two handed weapon feat. If you are going to fight with two handed weapons, then why taking shield mastery? I would also drop Empower Healing Spell and will take Cleave, Great Cleave, Weapon Focus: Slashing (at level 21), Overwhelming Critical (at level 24). Toughness enhancements are waste of APs for a AP starve PrE like DoS. IMHO Exalted Smite and Divine Sacrifice is far more important for DPS focus Pallys.

red_cardinal
07-24-2012, 03:43 AM
Tower shield for situations where AC is needed. It helps sometimes...
I'll also stay that way until U15 when and if new prestiges come.

Overwhelming crit at 21 to get it sooner and have fun.

daniel7
07-26-2012, 11:39 PM
More Divine Sacrifice. Maybe drop some toughness for it.

Overwhelming Crit. is broken right now right red_cardinal?