View Full Version : Grandmaster of Flowers Imp. Martial Arts

06-29-2012, 10:19 AM
Can anyone confirm if the bonuses are working with weapons other than handwraps?
(i.e. longswords, shortswords and bows, provided they have the feats)

07-08-2012, 02:58 PM
Surely someone must have picked this up by now.

Is the Epic Destiny ability working correctly with all ki weapons (should be +1.5[W] at rank 3), or is it similar to the epic feat and is granting half bonuses for non-unarmed ki weapons? (or none at all?)

Curious in particular regarding longswords and longbows.

07-09-2012, 01:33 AM
Even if one has picked up the feats it is difficult to tell. I picked up the feat itself and got the 3 ranks in the epic ability for a total of 2[W] xtra damage now. I´m using mainly unarmed combat and find it hard to determine whether it has any effect or not. The display in the inventory is completely useless, it even looks different for my chars, on the monk it say "[1d6]+x" (x being the STR modifier) and on my fighter it says "(7-17)". The effects feedback tells me "you benefit from 1.5[W]".

ddowiki says the new monk hit dice at lvl 20 is 3,5[1d6], so with the feats i should sit at 5,5[1d6]. My crude understanding of maths tells me I should get an average of 5,5*3,5 = 19,25+STR modifier, which sounds correct looking at the numbers however I don´t feel much of a difference between before and after picking up the feats.

You´d need some intense testing for that I guess.

07-09-2012, 01:44 AM
with monk past life and pure monk, imp martial arts, 3/3 1st tier GMF and reinforced first i can currently confirm i do at least 6d6 damage unarmed.

running through King's forest, other places, and 'fresh' trainining dummy or 2 with +20 to dmg from various effects my highest non crits we're 56.


i could very be hitting at 6.5[w] and just not hit the right rolls, i saw a few 58s in shroud, but im pretty certain i have shintao bonus against eviloutsider

i'd know what my +[w] should be, if someone knows the values or a post showing what they all are it'll help me figure out where im at.

07-09-2012, 09:04 PM
running numbers through my head... (please correct me if im wrong)

3.5 - pure monk
0.5 - past life
0.5 - reinforced fists
1.0 - imp. martial arts
1.5 - tier 1 GMF feat
0.5 - tier 2 LDread power attack feat
0.75 - fire stance feat


im missing a few feats but should be doing around 7[1d6], with the number i posted above, i may not be getting a +1[w] somewhere.

07-11-2012, 06:35 PM
Hmmm. Checking with unarmed only is problematic, since unarmed is quite difficult to work out on its own, let alone with potentially +1.5[W] on it.

Any monkchers, or longsword or shortsword users able to test this? That should be easier to figure out, since your average epic bow/longsword/shortsword will be 2d8+6 or 2d6+6, barring any other bonuses.